Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #79 *ARREST*

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  • #81
Are we allowed to post the Tyson Draper video here?
Approved sources are MSM, LE, Profiling Evil podcast, Lauren Scharf podcast or social media, Investigation Discovery, Crimeonline, Tyson Draper (only the interview with Barry Morphew), public documents.

Above is from page 1 of the thread - so yes - his interview with Barry is OK but only that
 
  • #82
Yes. We know that the unlaced boots were disposed of. The question then becomes, "What became of the laces? Why remove them from the boots prior to disposal?"

Possible answers abound, but since the boot laces seemingly cannot be accounted for, there's the distinct possibility that they were part of the commission of the crime: used as a garrotte, bindings, or simply contaminated in some way that required their disposal, separated from the boots they belonged to, presumably to help break the bond between boot and lace and between boots, laces, and Barry Morphew.

These are fair questions, IMO, as we know from the PH, because they are yet another point of departure from what we might call "expected behaviour" and the actions of BM as he went on his sequence of trash runs. Sure, the boot laces may be irrelevant, but the trouble he took to remove and then separately dispose of them suggests otherwise.

I don't quite grasp the "nexus" discussion, so will leave it alone.
BBM
Yes his action are speaking loud and clear. He took quite a bit of trouble in this murder. @scapa you are right, possible answers abound...
 
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OK, TY. This looks to me like 3 bandaids on BMs arm

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3 seconds in on the video

 
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Thread is closed for review.

Check back in a bit.
 
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Thread is open again.
 
  • #86
Is the missing 18 miles from before the time the truck's computer was wiped?

I tried to get clarification on that yesterday - I don't think anyone knows. Probably need to go through tweets. I strikes me that either the truck stores everything or it doesn't. I'm guessing that defense will provide extensive expert testimony showing how inaccurate and unreliable these consumer-grade location tracking devices really are.
 
  • #87
Thanks for making my point. Evidence? Nexus?
MOO
Re: shoelaces
Here’s my thing. If someone can set me straight, please do.
Were shoelaces recovered? Barry stated that he took the boots with holes to Broomfield to save the laces. Footage shows that the boots were tossed in a trash dump? Were they laceless for sure?
If the laces were in his truck, recovered, and tested, that’s one thing. If there were no laces found in his truck, that is definitely another thing. If LE did not look for laces, or did not inventory all items when he came back in his truck, that’s on them. If they started writing the AA on May 10 or 11, it sounds like they knew what was up and should have started preserving evidence. I’d like to know where the mystery shoelaces are today. The answer would matter if I was on a jury.
 
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Re: shoelaces
Here’s my thing. If someone can set me straight, please do.
Were shoelaces recovered? Barry stated that he took the boots with holes to Broomfield to save the laces. Footage shows that the boots were tossed in a trash dump? Were they laceless for sure?
If the laces were in his truck, recovered, and tested, that’s one thing. If there were no laces found in his truck, that is definitely another thing. If LE did not look for laces, or did not inventory all items when he came back in his truck, that’s on them. If they started writing the AA on May 10 or 11, it sounds like they knew what was up and should have started preserving evidence. I’d like to know where the mystery shoelaces are today. The answer would matter if I was on a jury.

ITA -- this info may be crucial.

Nothing I've seen suggests that we know the whereabouts or fate of these missing laces, but I may well have missed it. My understanding from following the testimony and then rereading the excellent timelines and recaps posted here is that we don't yet know.
 
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I tried to get clarification on that yesterday - I don't think anyone knows. Probably need to go through tweets. I strikes me that either the truck stores everything or it doesn't. I'm guessing that defense will provide extensive expert testimony showing how inaccurate and unreliable these consumer-grade location tracking devices really are.
You got that right! The defense will attack all evidence! MOO
 
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OK, TY. This looks to me like 3 bandaids on BMs arm

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3 seconds in on the video

That inage is all pixelated??? What is it supposed to be an image of? His bare shoulders? Not seeing any bandaids...if he's like my husband he doesn't really use bandaids LOL. I watched the video (with the sound off as I personally think the man from Arizona is abit sketchy LOL) but didn't really see anything strange or unexpected or bandaids. If prosecution brings up his hand and arm scrapes, scratches and bruises I'm sure they will have some expert testify and then defense will have an expert testify LOL. The man clearly wears tank tops.
 
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I haven't posted in quite a while but have watched this case from the start. After learning much more about the timelines and the windows of time that may have been used to dispose of evidence - I want to go back to a theory I had long ago. I am sure that LE has thought of this in all the hours and searches too. So much has been fixated on BM ' s hunting - but he probably also did a lot of fishing. As this outdoorsman, he would know of many places nearby to throw a line out. I direct attention to Colorado's largest reservoir - just down highway 50 and not far out of Gunnison. Well within the timeline to make a night time trip for disposal. There are two bridges where the highway passes over - and the guard rails are not that high. Below the water depth is very deep. Very very deep. At night this is a very low traveled area. Camera's ? I doubt it. But for someone desperate to hide something - a much easier disposal than trying to dig a deep hole.
Very unfortunately, any kind of deep diving or searching would require a heck of a lot of resources.
One thing that I wonder about in regards to items that BM may have used to dispose of evidence. There has been much talk about missing coolers. Maybe with weight that would work - tossing it over into deep water. But I have wondered about a potential tool chest he may have had in the back of his Ford and if it was ever missing ?
I think about a potential tool chest ( many are metal and fit snugly in the bed of a truck. I definitely had a hunter/ fisher friend with one of these in the bed of his Ford. It nestled up next to the cab and was metal. Made for a Ford pickup. My friend sure kept alot of tools and random stuff in there. It had a hinge that he simply used a heavy duty lock on. Like I said - it was metal and pretty good sized. Bigger than a cooler and heavy on its own. Very sinkable - forever - if you catch me.
I have also wondered about all of those random tools left by BM at the hotel in Broomfield. Obviously out of the back of his truck. Obviously not needed for that supposed job that day. Right ? So did those tools have a ' home ' - in the bed of his truck beforehand ? Had they been kept in a tool box that was not there anymore ? Were these random tools left at the hotel vs. brought back in the bed of his truck for a reason ? Not like they were used for something gross and nefarious - but simply because they no longer had a home in the bed of his truck ? And that might set off suspicion ?

I agree with you on a potential water burial. So many sources nearby.

Regarding the hand tools BM allegedly left behind for his crew, I'm recalling a statement by MG very early that makes me think that BM did not have a truck tool box when she said that it looked to her like BM just emptied his truck bed at the hotel. At the time, MG would not have known that his toolbox was missing.

I also don't recall seeing any close-up photos of his truck(s) prior to SM missing. But I'm also inclined to believe that BM did not use his own vehicle when he disposed of SM's body. MOO
 
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Hes a spendthrift, not a cheapskate.
He treated himself tp ever toy, caviar hunting trips, driving new cars.
Why, if he so pennywise was he not utilizing the Association dumpster he has already paid for?
I think calling himself a cheapskate is a way to justify some of his behavior, namely: possible control of money, shoelaces, illegally dumping trash, and working on Mother’s Day.

It doesn’t really seem like he’s a cheapskate though. They had an expensive home, expensive cars and vacations. Suzanne’s diamond looked expensive.
 
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@kshultz06082

Sorry, I wasn't fast enough to reply to your post from the prior thread. You called me out about whether when Barry "clipped" Suzanne's nose, as we heard in the PH, if it bled. I said that it did but I believe you are right, that wasn't part of the testimony. All I can find is that contact was made. Apologies for my error.

source of the correct story, which doesn't mention any blood
"Barry allegedly told CBI agents 'that it was an accident, he clipped the side of her nose with his hands.'"
https://twitter.com/LaurenScharfTV/status/1430202249041612802

@rainbowshummingbird Thank you for helping to correct my error.

I hope I didn't come off like I was calling you out. I truly wanted to see if I had missed an important tweet because if she did end up with a bloody nose, that doesn't sound like an "accidental nose clipping"
 
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Re: shoelaces
Here’s my thing. If someone can set me straight, please do.
Were shoelaces recovered? Barry stated that he took the boots with holes to Broomfield to save the laces. Footage shows that the boots were tossed in a trash dump? Were they laceless for sure?
If the laces were in his truck, recovered, and tested, that’s one thing. If there were no laces found in his truck, that is definitely another thing. If LE did not look for laces, or did not inventory all items when he came back in his truck, that’s on them. If they started writing the AA on May 10 or 11, it sounds like they knew what was up and should have started preserving evidence. I’d like to know where the mystery shoelaces are today. The answer would matter if I was on a jury.
Great post! I’d like to know if the Broomfield landfills were searched by CBI/FBI. MOO
 
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Dbm
 
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