Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #79 *ARREST*

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  • #141
Since the PH they only used LE as witnesses, I wonder if they chose the examples they did because it was something Barry admitted to, they had text message verification of, or they had observed the evidence with their own eyes (photos). This would remove the he said she said angle that the defense could bring up and they can't call people to testify to what they saw or Suzanne said so it would be LE saying what someone else said. These incidents they presented were all things they could show, texts for, his own statements for or physical observation of.
That's generally how it goes just the bare facts needed plus whatever is felt needed to push the judge to bind the defendant over for trial...but they have a lot more latitude in a preliminary because it is investigators impressions...especially in this case. So they shared some factual data and wove what they believe might have happened. Trials are much tighter about what gets said...and generally it's first hand testimony, data or from experts. That is why the bar is low for preliminaries....and also why the judge was concerned about the things in the arrest affidavit that wouldn't be allowed at trial. I'm repeating myself but I like Scott Reisch's analogy about believing and knowing. I have taken that and applied it for myself to preliminaries about believing something and trials are about knowing something. Since the preliminary is over I've mentally moved on to what do we "know" that can be verified first hand or through data or through experts. And of course there could be some things we don't know that for some reason the prosecutors chose not to use in the preliminary....but defense knows what the prosecution knows from disclosure.
 
  • #141
Yesterday, I was cautiously optimistic that the FBI may have found some evidence of SM. Deep down though, I knew it wasn't going to be her. I believe SM is very, very close to home. I think she is buried in a cooler down by the river under a tree planted as a marker. I don't know if dogs would pick up her sent if she was sealed in a cooler. I would imagine being a landscape architect, BM could have crafted up something to look picturesque. Maybe even something natural looking and untouched. Hopefully, we will find out if something was done on the property like excavations.

I just wonder what he may have been doing by the river edge of his property for time frame he was there on 5/9. I just don't buy the turkey story. I file that under the chipmunk, deer, mountain lion, and elk stories.

Also, I wonder how long he actually stayed in that house after SM disappearance. Was he in a hurry to leave once the searches ceased? I imagine if she was close by, he would want to move on away from PP.. especially if the searches were completed.


I feel so sad for her. Isolated and alone being hunted down like an animal. I hope SM, and her family get the justice they deserve.

I totally agree Suzanne is close to PP.

I am not sure about a burial cooler but he had all night so who knows if she is on PP or a nearby rental place? So far his truck’s GPS doesn’t show movement.

And so far we’ve heard nothing about Suzanne’s Range River movement.

I’m sure the CBI and Chaffee County sheriff had reasons to not tear up the PP and adjacent acres. But I’d like to know those reasons. Freshly disturbed land in dry rocky Salida shows signs of disturbance.

Barry is a seasoned hunter and thus is secretive and knows his nearby public/private lands.

I’d really like confirmation if indeed BM went all the way up to Monarch Pass/Garfield Mine on 5/10/2020 because the released GPS truck data doesn’t show that.

Mark Redwine just laid his son off a Middle Mountain Forest Service road near his cabin. And yet months went by before Dylan was found.

So where could Suzanne be? I think she’s close by PP.
 
  • #142
Yesterday, I was cautiously optimistic that the FBI may have found some evidence of SM. Deep down though, I knew it wasn't going to be her. I believe SM is very, very close to home. I think she is buried in a cooler down by the river under a tree planted as a marker. I don't know if dogs would pick up her sent if she was sealed in a cooler. I would imagine being a landscape architect, BM could have crafted up something to look picturesque. Maybe even something natural looking and untouched. Hopefully, we will find out if something was done on the property like excavations.

I just wonder what he may have been doing by the river edge of his property for time frame he was there on 5/9. I just don't buy the turkey story. I file that under the chipmunk, deer, mountain lion, and elk stories.

Also, I wonder how long he actually stayed in that house after SM disappearance. Was he in a hurry to leave once the searches ceased? I imagine if she was close by, he would want to move on away from PP.. especially if the searches were completed.


I feel so sad for her. Isolated and alone being hunted down like an animal. I hope SM, and her family get the justice they deserve.

I totally agree Suzanne is close to PP.

I am not sure about a burial cooler but he had all night so who knows if she is on PP or a nearby rental place? So far his truck’s GPS doesn’t show movement.

And so far we’ve heard nothing about Suzanne’s Range River movement.

I’m sure the CBI and Chaffee County sheriff had reasons to not tear up the PP and adjacent acres. But I’d like to know those reasons. Freshly disturbed land in dry rocky Salida shows signs of disturbance.

Barry is a seasoned hunter and thus is secretive and knows his nearby public/private lands.

I’d really like confirmation if indeed BM went all the way up to Monarch Pass/Garfield Mine on 5/10/2020 because the released GPS truck data doesn’t show that.

Mark Redwine just laid his son off a Middle Mountain Forest Service road near his cabin. And yet months went by before Dylan was found.

So where could Suzanne be? I think she’s close by PP.
 
  • #143
Intimate Partner Femicide Timeline - Research Repository

Not sure if this will work, and I know that in earlier threads the 8 steps timeline by Dr Moncton Smith has been discussed.. but (if link works properly) this should take anyone who is interested to the intimate partner femicide section, which can be downloaded. From page 13-20 it gives warning signs for each step of the timeline, just thought, for those who may not have read it, they may find interesting and insightful, also, not too sure bout 1st 2 steps but I think from step 3 onwards it is most definitely relevant to Suzanne's life with BM and can correlate what we've learnt to each step.

Really hope link works
 
  • #144
As per @OldCop thread #78: You have the same questions I do. Wouldn’t they have to be after the truck reset on Saturday at 5:30 pm?
They were discussed by the defense in the PH. It was tweeted by LS and quoted by @Cindizzi. But I can find no clarification.
Perhaps when @NoSI gets a chance she can provide us with a little more insight.


Already new thread again, so can’t respond to the actual post. Hopefully this will work.

This was all a bit unclear at the preliminary hearing. The way I took it was that they based the 18 or 19 missing miles off the odometer events they retrieved via telematics. They stated several times that telematics does not capture every car event and that “you get what you get and you don’t throw a fit”. So, technically, telematics could have captured an odometer event, but no door or lights events etc. when the car may have been used to go to Salida Stove and Spa. This is just MOO…
 
  • #145
Wrt: COUNT 2: TAMPERING WITH A DECEASED HUMAN BODY, C.R.S. 18-8-610.5 (F3){26065}
Per 2016 Colorado Revised Statutes :: Title 18 - :: Criminal Code :: Article 8 - :: Offenses - Governmental Operations :: Part 6 - :: Offenses Relating to Judicial and Other Proceedings :: § 18-8-610.5. Tampering with a deceased human body:

(1) A person commits tampering with a deceased human body if, believing that an official proceeding is pending, in progress, or about to be instituted and acting without legal right or authority, the person willfully destroys, mutilates, conceals, removes, or alters a human body, part of a human body, or human remains with intent to impair its or their appearance or availability in the official proceedings.

Amateur question here, but why this additional charge on top of the murder charge? Or is this relatively normal in the absence of a body?

Yes, Tampering with a deceased human body AND Tampering with physical evidence are both additional charges (Counts 2 & 3, and Class 3 and 6 felonies).

https://www.courts.state.co.us/user...8/21CR78 Morphew Amended Complaint 051821.pdf
 
  • #146
I see one and possibly more. If it helps, @Ontario Mom , these are (or at least what I see) are the small round bandaids, not the typical rectangular ones such as you might be looking for. See if that changes what you see?



Where my thinking snags on this is -- if the laces were used in the crime, that means they were no longer attached to the boots at the time. Meaning BM couldn't have been wearing those boots at the time (well, unless he was sloshing around in them laceless which seems unlikely).

Wasn't there a cctv image of him carrying the boots into the HIE? Why would he do that if they were both laceless and not dirtied during the crime? Wouldn't he just toss the boots in one of the dumpster runs?

The only reasons I can think of to bring a pair of boots into a hotel room would be: if he intended to wear them, or if he was actually intending to remove the laces, or to attempt to clean them.

He would have no need to clean about-to-be tossed-out boots except to try to hide evidence, which IMO wouldn't exist on the boots unless he was wearing them at the time of the crime.

Hmm, upon further thought, if he thought something evidentiary had gotten on the boots during the crime, wouldn't he think it might also be on the laces and just toss the whole thing, tightwad or not? Maybe the boots are not actually relevant at all. If he tied SM in any way, or tied up a bag etc she was in or related to the crime, especially at his own home, he would have lots of normal options like twine, twist wire etc without needing to resort to shoelaces... MOO
If BOTH the boots and their laces were present when SM was killed (or some of her bodily fluids got on them during the chase before she was killed, if for example, she vomited), then I could see BM wanting to dispose of them separately. He could clean the boots and perhaps did in the hotel room. Shoelaces, being fabric, would be harder to clean, and more likely to retain BM's DNA. So, separating the boots from the laces decreased the likelihood that investigators would have all the pieces necessary to tie SM to BM at the time of her death or shortly beforehand. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he burned the laces as they would present the greatest opportunity to detect both BM's DNA and SM's bodily fluids (or cadaverine) associated with her death.
 
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As per @Love Never Fails thread #78:
I would love a firsthand account of the demeanor of Suzanne’s daughters and of BM during the last day of testimony. It’s hard to believe the girls haven’t realized the truth by now.

So, there was a definite change in the demeanor and energy of BM, his family, and the defense team when comparing Monday and Tuesday afternoon. For example, on Monday, BM seemed almost giddy. I also saw the daughters with family prior to the hearing laughing and hugging each other. In that moment, they appeared carefree, for a lack of a better word. However, throughout the day on Monday, I did look over at his family a few times and the daughters looked like they had been crying at times and also very tired. On Tuesday, BM and his attorney’s still looked pretty confident throughout the hearing. After the Judge didn’t make a decision, this all changed. BM almost collapsed onto himself on the table in front of him. His head was either in his hands, held up by his arm, and for a time, he also had his head resting on the table. The demeanor of his defense team also shifted. For a while, the attorneys seem to comfort him before moving on to packing up their documents, during which time BM was sitting there all alone. Once they had packed up the documents, one of his attorney’s sat on his left and the other on his right. I don’t think that the daughters where in the room when the decision was announced Tuesday afternoon. I am fairly certain that everyone on his side thought he would walk out as a free man/or at least on bail on Tuesday. I also believe that his family still believes he is innocent based on how they are acting etc.
 
  • #149
Actually the image and video show them on his right arm, don't they? Or was it all reversed? MOO
I think the video was taken of mostly his right side. It is reported that LE took pictures of scratches on his upper left arm and cuts on his hands. I watched the Tyson Draper video again but his hands were moving all over the place and I didn’t get a great view of his upper arms as he was moving a lot, as was the camera. I’m betting his right hand had a few more cuts and bruises and might have been swollen. Jmo

EXHIBIT 85-87: Photos of #BarryMorphew hands and arm with injuries. According to Undersheriff Rohrick, Upper left arm looks like there are fingernail injuries. 3 abrasions or cuts scabbing over. Outside of his hands were injuries in various stages of healing.
https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1429856516690124802?s=21
 
  • #150
It's always curious to me when we have a highly pixelated image here how folks can see all sorts of things in it, and others can't see a thing. I work with photoshop every day in my professional life, and that image wouldn't pass anyone's professional sniff test since it's at such a low resolution and clarity. There could be scratches on his arm, but I'm not seeing them in this image.

I see bandaids, though. Not scratches. As pixelated as it is (and I too work with images on a daily basis and wish I had my best monitor here at home, but what I've got is good enough). I can plainly see two rectangular flesh covered objects raised on the skin. I can't quite make out the third. However, this appears to be his right arm and not his left. It's possible he just has strange skin, I suppose, but to me it's cleared at least a raised area on his arm.

I have now read tweets that say a picture was shown in court of the scratches, but some here are saying this was not true (so I hope @NoSI can weigh in on that one).

If they didn't take pictures of his arm (and in fact, of both arms and both hands), LE really messed up.
 
  • #151
As per @Love Never Fails thread #78:
I would love a firsthand account of the demeanor of Suzanne’s daughters and of BM during the last day of testimony. It’s hard to believe the girls haven’t realized the truth by now.

So, there was a definite change in the demeanor and energy of BM, his family, and the defense team when comparing Monday and Tuesday afternoon. For example, on Monday, BM seemed almost giddy. I also saw the daughters with family prior to the hearing laughing and hugging each other. In that moment, they appeared carefree, for a lack of a better word. However, throughout the day on Monday, I did look over at his family a few times and the daughters looked like they had been crying at times and also very tired. On Tuesday, BM and his attorney’s still looked pretty confident throughout the hearing. After the Judge didn’t make a decision, this all changed. BM almost collapsed onto himself on the table in front of him. His head was either in his hands, held up by his arm, and for a time, he also had his head resting on the table. The demeanor of his defense team also shifted. For a while, the attorneys seem to comfort him before moving on to packing up their documents, during which time BM was sitting there all alone. Once they had packed up the documents, one of his attorney’s sat on his left and the other on his right. I don’t think that the daughters where in the room when the decision was announced Tuesday afternoon. I am fairly certain that everyone on his side thought he would walk out as a free man/or at least on bail on Tuesday. I also believe that his family still believes he is innocent based on how they are acting etc.

I also think it's possible, whether they speak publicly or not, that some of his family members think it was second degree, and also, that it's Class 3, not Class 2. The defense did their best to try and set that up - but the presumption goes to the prosecution.

Living from hearing to hearing, in jail, each time having hopes dashed (even if the hopes are unrealistic) is true punishment for Barry. I'm afraid his life is going to be like this for quite some time, even if the Judge does dismiss the Murder One, it will be immediately refiled as Murder Two of some kind.
 
  • #152
I see bandaids, though. Not scratches. As pixelated as it is (and I too work with images on a daily basis and wish I had my best monitor here at home, but what I've got is good enough). I can plainly see two rectangular flesh covered objects raised on the skin. I can't quite make out the third. However, this appears to be his right arm and not his left. It's possible he just has strange skin, I suppose, but to me it's cleared at least a raised area on his arm.

I have now read tweets that say a picture was shown in court of the scratches, but some here are saying this was not true (so I hope @NoSI can weigh in on that one).

If they didn't take pictures of his arm (and in fact, of both arms and both hands), LE really messed up.

Hi @10ofRods , we were not shown a picture of the nail markings/scratches on BMs arm. I was a bit distracted at times, but I don't think I would have missed that. A print of what I imagined was a photo of the marking were provided to the witness, the judge etc.
 
  • #153
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If SM was incapacitated by tranquilizer, hog tieing her with thick corded shoe laces would make for easier transport or for stuffing her into something like a cooler. Plus if she came to unexpectedly, she wouldn’t be able to move.

And I believe there is video evidence and/or BM testimony that he threw out boots that did not have laces. His claim is that he’s such a cheapskate that he kept the laces and threw out the boots.

Of course, this same cheapskate also threw out what was most likely a very expensive camo jacket. :rolleyes:

I am wondering if they have him on video or surveillance anywhere on Saturday morning to show what shoes he had on or even Friday. If those are in fact the boots he wears to work, that is seen on the video or they can't find the boots he might be seen in on Friday /Saturday then that says he didn't want them found because he may have disposed of her and got them dirty or wet or in some other way put evidence on them that leads to the area he dumped her.
 
  • #154
I see bandaids, though. Not scratches. As pixelated as it is (and I too work with images on a daily basis and wish I had my best monitor here at home, but what I've got is good enough). I can plainly see two rectangular flesh covered objects raised on the skin. I can't quite make out the third. However, this appears to be his right arm and not his left. It's possible he just has strange skin, I suppose, but to me it's cleared at least a raised area on his arm.

I have now read tweets that say a picture was shown in court of the scratches, but some here are saying this was not true (so I hope @NoSI can weigh in on that one).

If they didn't take pictures of his arm (and in fact, of both arms and both hands), LE really messed up.

I watched the video on a brand new MacBook and they really look like bandaids to me too.
 
  • #155
Intimate Partner Femicide Timeline - Research Repository

Not sure if this will work, and I know that in earlier threads the 8 steps timeline by Dr Moncton Smith has been discussed.. but (if link works properly) this should take anyone who is interested to the intimate partner femicide section, which can be downloaded. From page 13-20 it gives warning signs for each step of the timeline, just thought, for those who may not have read it, they may find interesting and insightful, also, not too sure bout 1st 2 steps but I think from step 3 onwards it is most definitely relevant to Suzanne's life with BM and can correlate what we've learnt to each step.

Really hope link works

It works! Thanks!
 
  • #156
I see bandaids, though. Not scratches. As pixelated as it is (and I too work with images on a daily basis and wish I had my best monitor here at home, but what I've got is good enough). I can plainly see two rectangular flesh covered objects raised on the skin. I can't quite make out the third. However, this appears to be his right arm and not his left. It's possible he just has strange skin, I suppose, but to me it's cleared at least a raised area on his arm.

I have now read tweets that say a picture was shown in court of the scratches, but some here are saying this was not true (so I hope @NoSI can weigh in on that one).

If they didn't take pictures of his arm (and in fact, of both arms and both hands), LE really messed up.
I noticed what seemed like bandaids as well on his hands when I tried to screenshot the video. I think it’s just pixelation from video to an image. It looked exactly like a bandaid on his hand when I took a screen shot. Here is an example of what it looked like.
 

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  • #157
Apologies if this was posted earlier.

Assuming

I hate typing this, but I'm wondering if SM ever saw a doct0r for any injuries BM inflicted upon her before she went missing.

If so, obviously there would be medical records, and the doctor who treated her could testify.

JMVHO.
Or pictures that someone else has, such as a friend or relative.
 
  • #158
I see bandaids, though. Not scratches. As pixelated as it is (and I too work with images on a daily basis and wish I had my best monitor here at home, but what I've got is good enough). I can plainly see two rectangular flesh covered objects raised on the skin. I can't quite make out the third. However, this appears to be his right arm and not his left. It's possible he just has strange skin, I suppose, but to me it's cleared at least a raised area on his arm.

I have now read tweets that say a picture was shown in court of the scratches, but some here are saying this was not true (so I hope @NoSI can weigh in on that one).

If they didn't take pictures of his arm (and in fact, of both arms and both hands), LE really messed up.

Going from memory:
They took pictures of all of the various injuries in various stages of healing.
Don't think they showed the actual photos in the hearing.
Defense asked if they were measured? Don't know if they asked about swabbing.
LE did not measure.
 
  • #159
I watched the video on a brand new MacBook and they really look like bandaids to me too.
Even though I do want to agree with you, I honestly and unfortunately think it’s pixelation. Jmo. I watched that video over and over looking for marks. Tyson Draper actually was the first one to comment that his hands were all messed up right after the video came out.

I think many said it’s because he’s a landscaper when it first came out which I’m sure would have been defense’s argument but BM told on himself and said he got the marks from a tree while searching for SM .

I do, however, think I see a very clear mark on the inside of his left hand. He is walking and when talking he just can’t stop moving his hands. He definitely was talking with his right hand quite a bit more. Just some things I definitely did notice.
 
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As per @OldCop thread #78: You have the same questions I do. Wouldn’t they have to be after the truck reset on Saturday at 5:30 pm?
They were discussed by the defense in the PH. It was tweeted by LS and quoted by @Cindizzi. But I can find no clarification.
Perhaps when @NoSI gets a chance she can provide us with a little more insight.


Already new thread again, so can’t respond to the actual post. Hopefully this will work.

This was all a bit unclear at the preliminary hearing. The way I took it was that they based the 18 or 19 missing miles off the odometer events they retrieved via telematics. They stated several times that telematics does not capture every car event and that “you get what you get and you don’t throw a fit”. So, technically, telematics could have captured an odometer event, but no door or lights events etc. when the car may have been used to go to Salida Stove and Spa. This is just MOO…
Thanks, @NoSI!
 
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