Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #79 *ARREST*

Status
Not open for further replies.
  • #501
Just wondering if you recall the specific details about the cracked/damaged door frame of the master bedroom. I don't even know if it really matters much but only because I've seen it described in so many different ways I'm not sure I even know how bad the damage really was.
We will probably learn more as soon as NoSi types up her notes.
:0)
 
  • #502
Just cos LE found no evidence of BM having an affair, doesn't mean there wasn't one - if it wasn't for the spy pen there'd be no evidence of Suzanne's liasions with JL. Makes me consider the text BM sent Suzanne asking if she wanted to go for a hike - that could have been meant for someone else? This could explain him ignoring her when she asked where?
moo
I think LE would have uncovered it if he was having an affair. I think perhaps people want him to have been cheating on Suzanne because there were rumors back when they were in Indiana and once it was disclosed that Suzanne was unfaithful the desire for Barry to have been unfaithful grew.
 
  • #503
When did he say that ? Sorry honestly don’t remember. And if he did was he just being worried that if he said that he would come after him next ?

Would have to be said after LE discovered who he was, in Nov. 2020.
 
  • #504
What I recall reading: BM admitted to turning left onto highway 50 out of his development instead of right toward Broomfield early Sunday morning.

He was asked where he turned around and he answered at the Garfield exit. (I haven't seen anything official saying he drove to a mine, just that that's the road where he turned around.)

He said he made this detour because he saw an elk and wanted to get a closer look to see if it was shedding antlers.

What others suspect as his actual reason for the detour was in order to place SM's helmet alongside the highway.

MOO

OR he went left for a very specific reason, not involving elk OR her helmet. 18 miles worth per chance.... and throwing her helmet was an after thought.....

JMO
 
  • #505
Yeah but he told the police he didn’t think BM had anything to do with SM going missing. If he really felt BM did hurt SM and didn’t say anything …..just no words for that.
Do you have a link for this? I must have missed it. How could he think BM had nothing to do with it if Suzanne had shared information with him?
 
  • #506
  • #507
I’ve been thinking about those 5/9 texts between Barry & Suzanne. They seem kind of weird. Especially the text asking Suzanne if she wanted to go on a hike. She replied “where?” And then he never answered until later when Suzanne brought it up again. Why did he not answer her about where he wanted to hike or ask her where she would like to go? And then when she asked if he wanted to meet up and hike he curtly replied no he was coming home. Why did he change his mind? I still think he was spying on her and somehow he could see her messages and photo she sent to JL. But why did he tell her he was coming home if he wanted to sneak up on her?

And for that matter why would Suzanne even consider going on a hike with Barry on May 9th when she told him on May 6th she was DONE? I can understand trying to be civil but going on a hike by herself with him? That tells me she did not think he would actually harm her and she had no idea of just what evil Barry was capable of. As other posters have theorized, maybe he was going along with the divorce talk saying he would always love her and they would remain friends and co-parent together. He might have said they would tell the girls together when they got home and that he would sell the house and “write her a check” and in the meantime he would help her find her own place so that’s why she sent him the info on a house for sale in Salida. (I still don’t get the Arizona connection.). Maybe Barry lured her into a false sense of security? She thought everything was going to work out for the best and eventually she would find happiness with JL. Poor Suzanne… she was probably full of hope and relief that her freedom was within reach. Unfortunately she may have misjudged both men’s character and underestimated Barry’s ego and greed. :(

IMO, most people just cannot rationally think that a loved one, or former love, is or can be evil. I do agree with those here who think BM was niceynicey with SUZANNE for a few days, until he wasn’t.

@NoSI mentions in her notes, from “Day 2 Morning Session” of the PC hearing, that BM’s mom leaves the courtroom after seeing the image of BM in the McDonald’s parking lot. This was TRASH RUN 3 being discussed, the one where he is seen pushing stuff with both hands into the trash can.

At that time, BM’s mom had sat through the entire Day 1 of the PC hearing, and part of Day 2, including TRASH RUNs 1 and 2 being described. Then, she SEES an image of BM stuffing trash into a trash can.

She leaves the courtroom, and returns shortly thereafter.

For whatever reason, her leaving at the image of him at trash can in Broomfield gives me a bit of hope that the light bulbs will, at some point, fully illuminate for his family the true story of SUZANNE’s disappearance and (alleged) murder.

If BM’s family is still believing in his innocence after seeing and hearing four days of the PC hearing testimony, with soooo many BM outlandish explanations for soooo many BM actions, I can’t fault SUZANNE for not realizing she was in danger from BM.

But, I sincerely wish anyone terminating a relationship that has had volatility would never be alone with that person after making the decision to leave. Don’t meet with the person alone to talk about children, divvying up possessions, or for any reason, it isn’t worth the risk. Even if others think you are being unreasonable. Because it’s your life on the line, not theirs.
 
  • #508
Maybe she came across him in floods of tears, fearing what had happened to Suzanne. And then maybe he broke down and told her everything. I can see that happening.

Why would you think his wife was also from Alexandria? Seems that would be mentioned in some MSM if true.
 
  • #509
Just cos LE found no evidence of BM having an affair, doesn't mean there wasn't one - if it wasn't for the spy pen there'd be no evidence of Suzanne's liasions with JL. Makes me consider the text BM sent Suzanne asking if she wanted to go for a hike - that could have been meant for someone else? This could explain him ignoring her when she asked where?
moo
Exactly.
That pen could have remained hidden and BM would have probably boxed it up with Suzzan's other things and gave them away or to a consignment shop, and no one would know any different. Same can be said for BMbecause we have no idea what he was up to all these years.
 
  • #510
I think LE would have uncovered it if he was having an affair. I think perhaps people want him to have been cheating on Suzanne because there were rumors back when they were in Indiana and once it was disclosed that Suzanne was unfaithful the desire for Barry to have been unfaithful grew.

I don't want to find out he cheated. I feel I know all I need to know about him - the lack of empathy and concern ( showed up for 1 chemo treatment - at least that is 1 more time than he showed up to search for Suzanne), the negative comments and implication about her such as 'she has drunk eyes' when seeing her last proof of life image, or when he said she used alcohol and drugs and on the 9th of May she was 'alcohol and drug free' - this is the woman that he claims to have loved since they were young, his 'angel' - she's the mother of his children, and still he can't say anything positive about her. Suzanne's own words describe him as emotionally and physically abusive - that poor woman - 30+ years of fear, control and hurt, not knowing which version BM was gonna come home at night, the man that 'pitted' and ensured her children became involved in their arguments and picked sides. We didn't give him enough credit at the start of this, and I suspect Suzanne didn't realise until the last second and her last breath, the danger she had been living in.
I think there's a possibility he may have had an affair - maybe he too was having an emotional affair.
Also, if he has indeed murdered Suzanne - he is clearly very good at hiding things from others even under such public scrutiny.
It was just a thought, and one I think is possible.

moo

Excuse the rant :oops::)
 
  • #511
Do you have a link for this? I must have missed it. How could he think BM had nothing to do with it if Suzanne had shared information with him?

The OP may come back with tweets, which I cannot locate. But at least one article stated this:

Barry had not known about the affair. However, Harris said that in questioning Libler, Liler said if Barry had any idea he (Libler) and Suzanne were together Barry would have talked to him first and he didn’t think Barry had anything to do with her disappearance.

Preliminary trial reveals Suzanne had an affair

 
  • #512
Is the general public allowed to see the list of visitors of BM in Chaffee County Jail?

I wonder if TN or GD have stopped by to say "Hi. How are you doing, BM?"

Just wondering....
 
  • #513
I wonder whether JL was ever truly planning to leave his wife and family for Suzanne.

Some of the texts released seem to be more a flirtatious or teasing manner, to me anyway.




Suzanne Morphew's married lover was featured alongside her husband Barry in the local paper in 1985 | Daily Mail Online
I think she was very vulnerable, and he exploited it. If I recall correctly, there was a party for Suzanne in Indiana prior to the move...and JL showed up. I would speculate that conversation and nostalgia were stirred up at that point in time. He may have had puppy love feelings for Suzanne...but this was a fantasy relationship...built on deceit and "escapism". He used her....and liked what he was using. But after each get together (all 6)...he went home and rejoined his "gang" as if nothing happened. Hard to tell how long this would have continued, had Suzanne not disappeared...but, I would speculate that Suzanne would have eventually popped an ultimatum on Jeff....or simply ended it on her own when she realized she was chasing a rabbit. I can't help but think that Suzanne was left with some bitterness over her fight with cancer...and Barry's lack of emotional support and understanding. She fell out of love with Barry...and was trapped. Those two components were not lost on JL...there were his ticket to Suzanne's affections.
If JL was worried about Suzanne and he really loved her he would have called the police. Period. There is no excuse! When he couldn’t reach her and then he saw the news reports that she was “missing” and her bike was found etc. that is the point where a decent man would realize it’s time to come clean to my wife and talk to LE immediately. Or he could have gone to Colorado and knocked on her door and confronted Barry himself. This is a more dangerous option but if he didn’t want LE or his wife to find out but his soulmate and future “wife” was missing you would think he would want to talk to Barry man to man and look him in the eye. Maybe at first he thought Suzanne ran away from Barry but after a few days and she didn’t contact him and when he heard the news coverage about the bogus bike ride he had to suspect the worst. And if he was actually on the phone with Suzanne and heard something like Barry yelling at her or she screamed or he heard a struggle taking place and he just hung up and started deleting stuff then he is not just a coward but he also suppressed evidence and gave Barry a chance to hide Suzanne’s body and set up the bike ride and job alibi trip. If he heard something or suspected Suzanne was in danger and he called LE right away they literally could have caught Barry in the act with her body. All just MOO but I have no respect for JL. I do hope we get to hear from him at Barry’s trial and I hope he regrets his actions or non action and it haunts him…if he ever truly loved Suzanne which I have my doubts about. And if he was my husband I would not only be devastated by the long term affair and betrayal but I would be just as disgusted with him for not doing the right thing. I feel very sorry for his wife and SIX children whose lives were blown up over this too. MOO
Had he gone to the police....chances are his wife would have been tipped off about it somehow...or the media may have picked up on it. I think his self-preservation instincts were much stronger than his sense of right and wrong. He only cared about protecting himself...Suzanne was not his primary concern...she was his toy....and all toys eventually get outgrown, wore out or broken.
 
  • #514
  • #515
MOO but I am guessing he did not tell his wife. What purpose would that serve?

If he was cowardly enough that he didn’t go to LE with any suspicions I cannot imagine that he would tell his wife.

I think he was hoping and praying that the affair would never become known.
Agree. He also confirmed that as of Nov 13, he had not told his wife.
 
  • #516
I think they have uncovered much about Barry's relationships with other women - but unless the defense decided to bring it up at the PH, we wouldn't know it yet.

I'll bet lots of donuts that there is some evidence of these affairs, but I'm not sure in what way it will be relevant to the trial, in the end. No reason to bring a series of women into this, when they have not killed Suzanne. I've always found MG's inflection in her words, "I am not THE other woman," interesting. I also find his visitor list at the jail quite interesting, given that one of the women on that list has a BF who has tweeted and FBed about this case (I can't link it, of course).

I don't want him to be cheating on Suzanne and I'm not sure why you would characterize people who theorize that Barry was having affairs in Indiana in that way. Very uncharitable, IMO.

bbm

Is there an MSM or LE notice about BM’s visitor list that could be linked here?

I’m not on social media much to be in the loop of behind-the-scenes info. Or I just haven’t looked in the right places. I’ll do some searching.
 
  • #517
  • #518
I think she was very vulnerable, and he exploited it. If I recall correctly, there was a party for Suzanne in Indiana prior to the move...and JL showed up. I would speculate that conversation and nostalgia were stirred up at that point in time.
^^rsbm

Respectfully - this is posted as fact but I think that evidence proves this untrue.
Where did you learn he attended SM's going away party?:eek:

JL lived in Michigan, not Indiana. He told FBI that SM initiated contact when out of the blue - she reached out to him on social media. The first time they saw each other in more than 20+ years was when SM invited JL to meet her in New Orleans, Feb 2019.
 
  • #519
I don’t have “hatred” toward JL but I think he acted in a cowardly manner by not going to LE after Suzanne disappeared.

It is quite possible his insight and information from his communications with Suzanne could have helped tremendously with the investigation.

My apologies for using the harsh word hatred when replying to your post. Mostly, I was disagreeing with JL using Suzanne as already mentioned.

Do you, or anyone, mind offering suggestions on how JL could have assisted Investigators asap for I don't see how he may have known where Barry placed his wife.
 
  • #520
bbm

Is there an MSM or LE notice about BM’s visitor list that could be linked here?

I’m not on social media much to be in the loop of behind-the-scenes info. Or I just haven’t looked in the right places. I’ll do some searching.
Both NG and Crime Talk have talked about BM video chatting with 7-8 unidentified women on their shows. Chaffee Couty Jail only permits visiting by video chat whether in person at the Jail or by visitors own home computer. (I've previously linked NG crime stories and crime talk YT).
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
100
Guests online
1,546
Total visitors
1,646

Forum statistics

Threads
632,348
Messages
18,625,040
Members
243,098
Latest member
sbidbh
Back
Top