Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #79 *ARREST*

[DizzyB]

JL did so many wrong things. He was putting his own family, and himself, in jeopardy for all of those months. He knew that Suzanne did not leave of her own accord, and he had no idea who could have had access to her phone, or if she had written about him in a journal or confided in someone. Did he ever consider that her husband murdered her because he found out? Did he not owe Suzanne-or his own family-anything? At bare minimum, he needed to ensure that his own family was safe from harm. He didn’t even bother to do that.

 

[10ofRods]

BBM BM actually said “ someone who knows her well”.

not trying to nitpick. Just thought I’d provide the link.

Oh - you're not nitpicking at all! I'm so glad you found the actual words. "Someone who knows her well." Perfect. See? I think Barry hints that he knew about the affair (and fantasized about harming that person in another utterance), as well as grabbing her phone while in Mexico. He might not know as much as he figured out after her death, but he was suspicious and by the time he made that statement, he had figured out about JL, IMO.

Preliminary trial reveals Suzanne had an affair

May 10, 2021

[..]

[Libler] lives in Michigan, is married and the father of six children. He and Suzanne met when they were teenagers and reconnected 20 years later when she contacted him on Facebook saying “Hi, stranger.”

(snipped for focus)

Barry had not known about the affair. However, Harris said that in questioning Libler, Liler said if Barry had any idea he (Libler) and Suzanne were together Barry would have talked to him first and he didn’t think Barry had anything to do with her disappearance.

I want to blurt something unkind about Libler. Barry would have talked to him first, my foot. Is Libler living in the 19th century? First of all, he should have assumed that Barry would find out, what with Suzanne sending photos taken on her phone, etc (and the Cloud). Second, why in the world would Barry speak to him first??

It does sound as if Libler is trying to stay out of it by acting as if in this fictional Men's World, men would solve issues regarding a shared woman between themselves. Oof.

 

[LietKynes]

Do you know this for a fact that his visitors were his family? If you could link to that info, I'd greatly appreciate it.

bbm
Agreed.
This is new-ish.
I hadn't heard that the two visitors were his daughters.
For some reason I was leaning towards it being the mother and/or sister.
I'd like a link as well, thanks.
Imo.

 

[LietKynes]

Oh - you're not nitpicking at all! I'm so glad you found the actual words. "Someone who knows her well." Perfect. See? I think Barry hints that he knew about the affair (and fantasized about harming that person in another utterance), as well as grabbing her phone while in Mexico. He might not know as much as he figured out after her death, but he was suspicious and by the time he made that statement, he had figured out about JL, IMO.

Yes, I remember BM saying that.
Mistakes were made on both sides and no one said Suzanne had to be perfectly devoted to someone who was probably not there for her best interests, obviously.
But the difference is : Suzanne didn't kill anyone.
Imo.

 

[marylamby]

Oh - you're not nitpicking at all! I'm so glad you found the actual words. "Someone who knows her well." Perfect. See? I think Barry hints that he knew about the affair (and fantasized about harming that person in another utterance), as well as grabbing her phone while in Mexico. He might not know as much as he figured out after her death, but he was suspicious and by the time he made that statement, he had figured out about JL, IMO.



I want to blurt something unkind about Libler. Barry would have talked to him first, my foot. Is Libler living in the 19th century? First of all, he should have assumed that Barry would find out, what with Suzanne sending photos taken on her phone, etc (and the Cloud). Second, why in the world would Barry speak to him first??

It does sound as if Libler is trying to stay out of it by acting as if in this fictional Men's World, men would solve issues regarding a shared woman between themselves. Oof.

Yet Barry never disclosed his knowledge of the affair to LE. Innuendo is just that.

 

[LietKynes]

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It's out there publicly, but I think it's behind a paywall ?

 

[LietKynes]

Yet Barry never disclosed his knowledge of the affair to LE. Innuendo is just that.

Good point.
I wonder if he felt humiliated ?
Maybe he thought of himself as Suzanne's "enough"; as in, "I am enough for you, and you don't need anything or anyone else besides me."
Somewhat narcissistic.
MOO.

 

[Whiteorchids]

If JL was worried about Suzanne and he really loved her he would have called the police. Period. There is no excuse! When he couldn’t reach her and then he saw the news reports that she was “missing” and her bike was found etc. that is the point where a decent man would realize it’s time to come clean to my wife and talk to LE immediately. Or he could have gone to Colorado and knocked on her door and confronted Barry himself. This is a more dangerous option but if he didn’t want LE or his wife to find out but his soulmate and future “wife” was missing you would think he would want to talk to Barry man to man and look him in the eye. Maybe at first he thought Suzanne ran away from Barry but after a few days and she didn’t contact him and when he heard the news coverage about the bogus bike ride he had to suspect the worst. And if he was actually on the phone with Suzanne and heard something like Barry yelling at her or she screamed or he heard a struggle taking place and he just hung up and started deleting stuff then he is not just a coward but he also suppressed evidence and gave Barry a chance to hide Suzanne’s body and set up the bike ride and job alibi trip. If he heard something or suspected Suzanne was in danger and he called LE right away they literally could have caught Barry in the act with her body. All just MOO but I have no respect for JL. I do hope we get to hear from him at Barry’s trial and I hope he regrets his actions or non action and it haunts him…if he ever truly loved Suzanne which I have my doubts about. And if he was my husband I would not only be devastated by the long term affair and betrayal but I would be just as disgusted with him for not doing the right thing. I feel very sorry for his wife and SIX children whose lives were blown up over this too. MOO

I completely agree.

 

[Murphy1950]

Regarding Barry's visitors..
In fairness, his remaining family is all women, mom, 2 sisters, 2 daughters, and then he has a female defense team.


As for JL, have you ever in your life been cut off while talking to someone you knew?? Did you never try to talk to that person again??? Just wrote them off?? Wouldn't you try until you knew they were OK? Especially if they were in a compromised position with their job, health or family (spouse), and you were considered a dear friend. So you heard they were missing but oh well, it was nice knowing you, time to delete your existence. It's not hate here, total disgust.

 

[10ofRods]

Yes, I remember BM saying that.
Mistakes were made on both sides and no one said Suzanne had to be perfectly devoted to someone who was probably not there for her best interests, obviously.
But the difference is : Suzanne didn't kill anyone.
Imo.

I wasn't bringing it up to make that point, only to show that Barry (way before we found out about JL) was giving me many clues that he knew she might have someone. It's in my notes and I've discussed it with others - that I thought there was a secret Suzanne was keeping that was bigger than just wanting a divorce. It's a long series of little details that I've seen in other affair situations. I was still surprised at the extent of it.

On another topic - do you think it's weird that nothing was said about the DV group at the church? If it's not in the AA when we finally see it, I'm going to think that was just a rumor.

Part of my "data" about thinking Suzanne might have given off clues about the BF has to do with her facial expressions in some of her last photos (like the one with the military-style jacket) and Barry's statements about sex in a basement, the perp being some she 'knew well," etc).

Since Barry likely had access to Suzanne's Cloud account (necessary if they're both using Find My iPhone to track each other, as it seems they were), then he knew she had a long (5 hour) conversation with someone in Michigan. There was a reason he showed up in FL that time - perhaps it was after that conversation? He must have been highly suspicious. And she keeps hinting that she thinks he's having an affair or affairs (even in the "I'm done" tweet). If in fact, Barry wasn't having affairs, then he must have come to the same conclusion I would come to, if I were being accused unfairly - that my spouse was projecting and perhaps, gaslighting.

If he was having affairs (as I believe he was - it just wasn't in the PH), then it was mutual suspicion because I don't think Barry grabbed her phone in MX or flew to FL to surprise her "just because."

 

[marylamby]

I think he could have been of more assistance to Suzanne.

She had just informed her husband of many years that she was leaving him. Surely everyone knows, by know, that this is a dangerous time in a person's life?

Since he had influence over Suzanne (suggesting that she take up bicycling, encouraging her to move to Ecuador, helping her research various options and probably much else) he should have told her to go immediately to an attorney and to tell the attorney that she needed an R/O (which, while it probably wouldn't have prevented Suzanne's death, would have enabled him to call the police immediately after she abruptly disappeared from their romantic conversation and said that he had reason to believe she was in danger - the police would have already been alerted to the situation by the terms of the R/O). He should have suggested that if she was going to tell Barry she was leaving, that she immediately seek a place to live where Barry didn't know where she was. And...if she needed it, he could have put some of the costs of that on his credit card.

That probably would have prevented Barry from removing her from the house, at the very least.

That's what he could have done.

First, he may have learned that she was in fear of BM or not, maybe just that he made her life miserable.
He might've assumed that BM showed up at the house. This was an illicit affair, after all, and I'm sure he may have shown up unexpected before.
It took my best friend years (15+) to tell me her husband was abusive. I'd always thought so but she would never admit it. She may have only suggested so to JL and it only clicked when she was 'disappeared'.
I'm not saying he's an angel by any stretch but there is a possibility that he thought she 'disappeared' herself, especially hearing of the THE BIKE, initially.
I don't know, maybe he IS a total shat but I really think our focus should be more on Barry's behavior, what he did and how he murdered Suzanne.

 

[SouthAussie]

As for JL, have you ever in your life been cut off while talking to someone you knew?? Did you never try to talk to that person again???

Except he did try to speak with her again.


During Tuesday’s preliminary hearing, law enforcement officials presented to the court Suzanne’s text message exchanges with her lover, in which she told him she had a fine night and was looking at houses for sale.

The following day, Libler wished Suzanne Happy Mother’s Day and said he knew it would be a hard day for her because she missed her mother. Suzanne never replied.

His last known text to Suzanne was sent on May 11, in which he offered her well wishes for her cancer treatment. That message also went unanswered.


The real perp and person with questionable intentions here is BM. imo

Deleted search history on Barry’s phone included visits to the cheaters’ dating site Ashley Madison and Celeb Jihad, which features nude photos and videos of celebrities posted by purported Islamic extremists.

Suzanne Morphew spent the afternoon before she vanished texting her married-father-of-six lover

 

[DeDee]

I think he could have been of more assistance to Suzanne.

She had just informed her husband of many years that she was leaving him. Surely everyone knows, by know, that this is a dangerous time in a person's life?

Since he had influence over Suzanne (suggesting that she take up bicycling, encouraging her to move to Ecuador, helping her research various options and probably much else) he should have told her to go immediately to an attorney and to tell the attorney that she needed an R/O (which, while it probably wouldn't have prevented Suzanne's death, would have enabled him to call the police immediately after she abruptly disappeared from their romantic conversation and said that he had reason to believe she was in danger - the police would have already been alerted to the situation by the terms of the R/O). He should have suggested that if she was going to tell Barry she was leaving, that she immediately seek a place to live where Barry didn't know where she was. And...if she needed it, he could have put some of the costs of that on his credit card.

That probably would have prevented Barry from removing her from the house, at the very least.

That's what he could have done.

I guess JL could have advised Suzanne to hire an attorney but we don't know how much money she had access to. My attorney required a high dollar retainer's fee as I was suing on Cruel and Inhumane Treatment, which was awarded at a very high cost.

If we expect JL of realizing a female's most dangerous time is when she's leaving the marriage, couldn't we expect Suzanne to possess the same knowledge?

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[marylamby]

First, he may have learned that she was in fear of BM or not, maybe just that he made her life miserable.
He might've assumed that BM showed up at the house. This was an illicit affair, after all, and I'm sure he may have shown up unexpected before.
It took my best friend years (15+) to tell me her husband was abusive. I'd always thought so but she would never admit it. She may have only suggested so to JL and it only clicked when she was 'disappeared'.
I'm not saying he's an angel by any stretch but there is a possibility that he thought she 'disappeared' herself, especially hearing of the THE BIKE, initially.
I don't know, maybe he IS a total shat but I really think our focus should be more on Barry's behavior, what he did and how he murdered Suzanne.

 

[Seattle1]

Well considering the entire legal team is female including the private investigator and 2 daughters it kinda makes sense his visitors are primarily female.

I don't know why this is so confusing. To be clear, defense lawyers and immediate family members such as BM's mother, sisters, and daughters, are excluded from the "7 -8 female visitor count" as explained by the sources.

Take note that there's an application process and approval required for all video visitors, and "immediate family" can apply for approval to visit only one inmate housed at any specific jail facility.

Detentions Information - Chaffee County Sheriff

Visitation:

Visitation is only conducted by video-visitation either on-site(free) or from home (for a fee). Appropriate attire and conduct is required. Visits can be canceled at any time for a variety of reasons. Please check your visitation status prior to arriving at our facility. Visits can only be set up online at: Securus Technologies - Friends and Family Video Visitation System

Any issues with video visitation or inmate phone time need to be addressed with Securus via their website or 972-734-1111. Do not contact our facility.

On-site visits require a PIN number that you will receive when you schedule your appointment. If you do not have the assigned PIN number when you come on-sight for your appointment, you forfeit your visit. Be sure to bring a VALID photo ID to your visit. No photocopies or expired documents will be accepted.

 

[LietKynes]

If JL was worried about Suzanne and he really loved her he would have called the police. Period. There is no excuse! When he couldn’t reach her and then he saw the news reports that she was “missing” and her bike was found etc. that is the point where a decent man would realize it’s time to come clean to my wife and talk to LE immediately. Or he could have gone to Colorado and knocked on her door and confronted Barry himself. This is a more dangerous option but if he didn’t want LE or his wife to find out but his soulmate and future “wife” was missing you would think he would want to talk to Barry man to man and look him in the eye. Maybe at first he thought Suzanne ran away from Barry but after a few days and she didn’t contact him and when he heard the news coverage about the bogus bike ride he had to suspect the worst. And if he was actually on the phone with Suzanne and heard something like Barry yelling at her or she screamed or he heard a struggle taking place and he just hung up and started deleting stuff then he is not just a coward but he also suppressed evidence and gave Barry a chance to hide Suzanne’s body and set up the bike ride and job alibi trip. If he heard something or suspected Suzanne was in danger and he called LE right away they literally could have caught Barry in the act with her body. All just MOO but I have no respect for JL. I do hope we get to hear from him at Barry’s trial and I hope he regrets his actions or non action and it haunts him…if he ever truly loved Suzanne which I have my doubts about. And if he was my husband I would not only be devastated by the long term affair and betrayal but I would be just as disgusted with him for not doing the right thing. I feel very sorry for his wife and SIX children whose lives were blown up over this too. MOO

bbm
Excellent post.

Whoah ...
Wonder if LE have that phone call or text now on record; and it was amongst the other evidence pointing to an act of homicide ?
So, no matter what JL deleted... it's now evidence, and will be laid out there for all to see -- if this goes to trial ?
Which it looks like it will .
Imo JL's spouse and children are victims and JL is partly at fault.
Imo.

 

[10ofRods]

Yet Barry never disclosed his knowledge of the affair to LE. Innuendo is just that.

Right. Barry would have to be very worried about what the affair partner knew, and probably preferred LE didn't find out about him. Barry needs as few persons as possible to say that Suzanne was scared and unhappy or that he was suicidal and held a gun to his head.

 

[Seattle1]

Oh - you're not nitpicking at all! I'm so glad you found the actual words. "Someone who knows her well." Perfect. See? I think Barry hints that he knew about the affair (and fantasized about harming that person in another utterance), as well as grabbing her phone while in Mexico. He might not know as much as he figured out after her death, but he was suspicious and by the time he made that statement, he had figured out about JL, IMO.



I want to blurt something unkind about Libler. Barry would have talked to him first, my foot. Is Libler living in the 19th century? First of all, he should have assumed that Barry would find out, what with Suzanne sending photos taken on her phone, etc (and the Cloud). Second, why in the world would Barry speak to him first??

It does sound as if Libler is trying to stay out of it by acting as if in this fictional Men's World, men would solve issues regarding a shared woman between themselves. Oof.

But you're not addressing a direct quote here. I believe others have quoted JL as stating that "BM would have come after him" if he was aware of the affair.

I don't know anything about JL or his life but I don't think he's acting. He knew that he lost SM and is desperately trying to hang on to his family and his job! It's self-preservation from here on out. MOO

 

[Charlot123]

MOO but I am guessing he did not tell his wife. What purpose would that serve?

If he was cowardly enough that he didn’t go to LE with any suspicions I cannot imagine that he would tell his wife.

I think he was hoping and praying that the affair would never become known.

To be honest, had he come forward, maybe the investigation would have taken a different course, and we would not have to wait not be so anxious about justice for SM.

But, I can imagine what it would have meant for JL. His family, his kids, his job...everything could be ruined. So as a human, I understand his cowardice, but I don't think it is forgivable, if he really loved SM.

 

[LietKynes]

I don't know why this is so confusing. To be clear, defense lawyers and immediate family members such as BM's mother, sisters, and daughters, are excluded from the "7 -8 female visitor count" as explained by the sources.

Take note that there's an application process and approval required for all video visitors, and "immediate family" can apply for approval to visit only one inmate housed at any specific jail facility.

Detentions Information - Chaffee County Sheriff

Visitation:

Visitation is only conducted by video-visitation either on-site(free) or from home (for a fee). Appropriate attire and conduct is required. Visits can be canceled at any time for a variety of reasons. Please check your visitation status prior to arriving at our facility. Visits can only be set up online at: Securus Technologies - Friends and Family Video Visitation System

Any issues with video visitation or inmate phone time need to be addressed with Securus via their website or 972-734-1111. Do not contact our facility.

On-site visits require a PIN number that you will receive when you schedule your appointment. If you do not have the assigned PIN number when you come on-sight for your appointment, you forfeit your visit. Be sure to bring a VALID photo ID to your visit. No photocopies or expired documents will be accepted.

Lavender bolding mine.
Thanks for clarifying that.
I admit I didn't know that the mother, sisters and daughters were excluded from the visitor list....when I looked at the linked sources I missed that.
Imo.