Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #79 *ARREST*

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  • #561
I guess JL could have advised Suzanne to hire an attorney but we don't know how much money she had access to. My attorney required a high dollar retainer's fee as I was suing on Cruel and Inhumane Treatment, which was awarded at a very high cost.

If we expect JL of realizing a female's most dangerous time is when she's leaving the marriage, couldn't we expect Suzanne to possess the same knowledge?

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I'm sorry, I didn't realize we've been told not to discuss DV. Duly noted.

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As to the money Suzanne had access to, I think this is a key issue for this trial. I hope SO can testify to it so no one else has to, and I hope the bank records show something as well.
 
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  • #562
To be honest, had he come forward, maybe the investigation would have taken a different course, and we would not have to wait not be so anxious about justice for SM.

But, I can imagine what it would have meant for JL. His family, his kids, his job...everything could be ruined. So as a human, I understand his cowardice, but I don't think it is forgivable, if he really loved SM.
bbm
Agreed.
Just basic respect for a human being who is missing under suspicious circumstances.
My .02.
 
  • #563
Yet Barry never disclosed his knowledge of the affair to LE. Innuendo is just that.

He waited until LE told him that SM was having an affair to admit he suspected it. It’s so odd that he didn’t tell LE his suspicions when she first went missing. It would have played into a SODDI defense. But.. it also gave him a motive to kill her himself. I think that’s why he wouldn’t admit he knew.

Barry claimed not to know about the affair when investigators told him, Harris said. He said he thought she may have been having an emotional affair, but not a physical one.

Barry Morphew preliminary hearing: Investigator confirms Suzanne was having a 2-year affair
 
  • #564
But you're not addressing a direct quote here. I believe others have quoted JL as stating that "BM would have come after him" if he was aware of the affair.

I don't know anything about JL or his life but I don't think he's acting. He knew that he lost SM and is desperately trying to hang on to his family and his job! It's self-preservation from here on out. MOO

I find it unusual that JL said he didn't think Barry had anything to do with Suzanne's disappearance.

I'd like to know what he thought may have happened to her.

Preliminary trial reveals Suzanne had an affair
 
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I find it unusual that JL said he didn't think Barry had anything to do with Suzanne's disappearance.

I'd like to know what he thought may have happened to her.

Preliminary trial reveals Suzanne had an affair
Iirc they had gone to HS together.
It's hard to imagine someone you know being capable of murdering someone. I went thru this disbelief with a HS classmate. I was in disbelief! Absolutely!
However, I suspect he had other reasons for saying that as well.
He was in the hot seat and BM might come after him! So he was willing to keep his knowledge of their abusive and loveless marriage to himself. But I'll bet he told someone, just in case.
moo
 
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Iirc they had gone to HS together.
It's hard to imagine someone you know being capable of murdering someone.
However, I suspect he had other reasons for saying that as well.
He was in the hot seat and BM might find out!
moo
Absolutely because Barry hadn't been arrested at that point. Who knows what LE told him at this point also. It was Nov or Dec 2020 and Barry wasn't arrested till May. Could be the same reason the girls support their dad too. If he gets released and they didn't support him, are they next?
 
  • #569
OR he went left for a very specific reason, not involving elk OR her helmet. 18 miles worth per chance.... and throwing her helmet was an after thought.....

JMO
So annoyed by that 18 miles. I’m gonna have to bet on that being him getting rid of her phone at Poncha springs. Then he goes back dumpster diving for it to make sure it got gone. It’s a very frustrating point to me.
 
  • #570
Just cos LE found no evidence of BM having an affair, doesn't mean there wasn't one - if it wasn't for the spy pen there'd be no evidence of Suzanne's liasions with JL. Makes me consider the text BM sent Suzanne asking if she wanted to go for a hike - that could have been meant for someone else? This could explain him ignoring her when she asked where?
moo
BM may not have had an “affair” in CO but he was looking for something, it appears! It was reported he got a little uncomfortable at the mention of Celebrity Jihad and looking for a “cute girl in Salida.” Maybe Barry also frequented dating sites, but not as “Barry.” Maybe he was Tom, Dick, Harry or even Jim “Smith” or whatever. Really hoping someone recognized him and has come forward. We all remember how he didn’t want to be seen in the media. There’s a reason someone acts like that! JMHO.
 
  • #571
I wasn't bringing it up to make that point, only to show that Barry (way before we found out about JL) was giving me many clues that he knew she might have someone. It's in my notes and I've discussed it with others - that I thought there was a secret Suzanne was keeping that was bigger than just wanting a divorce. It's a long series of little details that I've seen in other affair situations. I was still surprised at the extent of it.
bbm
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Oh, yes, thanks for clarifying .:)

And I think your assessment of the possibility of Suzanne having a significant friend, early on in this case -- proved correct.

Going to state this with all due respect for a life that imo was unfairly stolen by a selfish husband : Maybe their marriage should have ended sooner ?
Had they both become toxic to each other ?
Using the daughters as pawns in the arguments or fights ?
So much sadness in this family.
Pictures do indeed tell a different story.
:(

I'm back to thinking it was more about keeping Suzanne's assets than an affair by either.
Imo-- money that Barry wasn't about to let slip through his fingers.
He was done with Suzanne.
But d**ned if he was going to have to downsize and lose possibly the bulk of "his" money ... that came from Suzanne !

MOO.
 
  • #572
I'm sorry, I didn't realize we've been told not to discuss DV. Duly noted.

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As to the money Suzanne had access to, I think this is a key issue for this trial. I hope SO can testify to it so no one else has to, and I hope the bank records show something as well.
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Hey @10ofRods we are only supposed to: ..."so please do not use this dedicated discussion for general discussion of domestic violence."

We can still discuss that SM wanted a divorce and BM claiming he didn't know. Etc....
 
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  • #573
I find it unusual that JL said he didn't think Barry had anything to do with Suzanne's disappearance.

I'd like to know what he thought may have happened to her.

Preliminary trial reveals Suzanne had an affair

I think one has to recognize the context of his statement: JL was responding to FBI when he said he did not think BM responsible (assuming this was his answer Nov 2020, BM pre-arrest).

I have no doubt his response would be different if asked by a friend. MOO
 
  • #574
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I emphasized that JL's wife and kids were also victims and that JL was partly at fault for that.
The fallout from all of this .

I wasn't saying that JL murdered anyone.

Lives ruined, yes.
Many people's lives will never be the same even if the murder didn't affect them directly, such as JL's family.

The fault for murder will lie with Barry and that's about it.
What he knew or suspected may come into the trial, as well as any other nefarious doings by BM himself.
Imo.
 
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  • #575
BM may not have had an “affair” in CO but he was looking for something, it appears! It was reported he got a little uncomfortable at the mention of Celebrity Jihad and looking for a “cute girl in Salida.” Maybe Barry also frequented dating sites, but not as “Barry.” Maybe he was Tom, Dick, Harry or even Jim “Smith” or whatever. Really hoping someone recognized him and has come forward. We all remember how he didn’t want to be seen in the media. There’s a reason someone acts like that! JMHO.
I think we will hear more about BM and his affairs in the coming weeks. I think SM alluded to these trysts and she knew best. It will come out. Might have been quiet for prelim but it’s gonna come out at trial.
 
  • #576
I think one has to recognize the context of his statement: JL was responding to FBI when he said he did not think BM responsible (assuming this was his answer Nov 2020, BM pre-arrest).

I have no doubt his response would be different if asked by a friend. MOO
bbm
How so ?
It bothers me that if JL had acted sooner, Barry might have been caught !
Maybe not.
But precious evidence may have been found.
Imo.
 
  • #577
bbm
How so ?
It bothers me that if JL had acted sooner, Barry might have been caught !
Maybe not.
But precious evidence may have been found.
Imo.
Because it sounds worse to admit that you suspected Barry, yet did not come forward.

Face saving methinks.
 
  • #578
With reference to an affair! Can it really be called an affair? having met 6/7 times in 18 months. Or did they just have an online flirtship and a physical relationship occasionally when the opportunity arose.
That’s not an affair??
 
  • #579
I think we will hear more about BM and his affairs in the coming weeks. I think SM alluded to these trysts and she knew best. It will come out. Might have been quiet for prelim but it’s gonna come out at trial.
bbm
Speculation : Didn't her sister say that Suzanne mentioned that she'd said to Barry that not only that she was done, but that she'd put up with something for years ??
That's a long time.
So something was about to crack.
Just maybe, Suzanne had something more incriminating about Barry than an affair ?
Something worse ?
I keep thinking about the move from IN and if Barry had been up to no good in the previous state ??
Thinking out loud.
MOO.
 
  • #580
That’s not an affair??
Oh it’s an affair alright, although I totally get why it happened.

She knew Barry wouldn’t allow a divorce, and she wound up being dead right.
 
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