Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #79 *ARREST*

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  • #581
I’ve been thinking about those 5/9 texts between Barry & Suzanne. They seem kind of weird. Especially the text asking Suzanne if she wanted to go on a hike. She replied “where?” And then he never answered until later when Suzanne brought it up again. Why did he not answer her about where he wanted to hike or ask her where she would like to go? And then when she asked if he wanted to meet up and hike he curtly replied no he was coming home. Why did he change his mind? I still think he was spying on her and somehow he could see her messages and photo she sent to JL. But why did he tell her he was coming home if he wanted to sneak up on her?

And for that matter why would Suzanne even consider going on a hike with Barry on May 9th when she told him on May 6th she was DONE? I can understand trying to be civil but going on a hike by herself with him? That tells me she did not think he would actually harm her and she had no idea of just what evil Barry was capable of. As other posters have theorized, maybe he was going along with the divorce talk saying he would always love her and they would remain friends and co-parent together. He might have said they would tell the girls together when they got home and that he would sell the house and “write her a check” and in the meantime he would help her find her own place so that’s why she sent him the info on a house for sale in Salida. (I still don’t get the Arizona connection.). Maybe Barry lured her into a false sense of security? She thought everything was going to work out for the best and eventually she would find happiness with JL. Poor Suzanne… she was probably full of hope and relief that her freedom was within reach. Unfortunately she may have misjudged both men’s character and underestimated Barry’s ego and greed. :(
And maybe she told Barry about JL. Everyone assumes he would have gone after JL. Maybe in Barry’s mind, having Suzanne dead and JL suffering emotionally and missing her was good enough for Barry. somehow, I really believe Barry thought he would get by with the murder.
 
  • #582
bbm
Speculation : Didn't her sister say that Suzanne mentioned that she'd said to Barry that not only that she was done, but that she'd put up with something for years ??
That's a long time.
So something was about to crack.
Just maybe, Suzanne had something more incriminating about Barry than an affair ?
Something worse ?
I keep thinking about the move from IN and if Barry had been up to no good i nthe previous state ??
Thinking out loud.
MOO.
Yes and I think she said I don’t care what you’ve been up to in recent years. She was done with him. I’m not sure if it was an affair or an economical thing she had it with him period.
 
  • #583
Oh it’s an affair alright, although I totally get why it happened.

She knew Barry wouldn’t allow a divorce, and she wound up being dead right.
Don’t you think it’s possible that after the 6th, Barry played her and made her believe he was fine with the divorce and maybe she let down her guard and told him there was another man, not realizing he already had made up his mind to kill her? He is evil that way I believe.
 
  • #584
And maybe she told Barry about JL. Everyone assumes he would have gone after JL. Maybe in Barry’s mind, having Suzanne dead and JL suffering emotionally and missing her was good enough for Barry. somehow, I really believe Barry thought he would get by with the murder.
A plan like the one BM is being charged with might have worked in 2014. But since then it's a different world technically.
Surveillance cameras, vehicle tracking, cell phone tracking, touch DNA, genealogic mapping DNA and other advancing forensics, like finding clandestine graves, or matching micro climate flora and fauna from wheel well dirt.
The chances for discrepancies has exponentially inreased.
 
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  • #585
I watched Lauren's video from day 3 and the timeline and noted some interesting things.

May 9th
2:04 photo to JL
2:06: JL texts about getting naked (this makes me wonder if they were going to do something and therefore she went inside at this point)
2:11 SM last communication with JL saying she was getting on WOAH (Lauren says maybe this is what's app, but I don't know that WOAH is an abbreviation for that?? Is there another app that people can maybe video call on called WOAH?

2:26 Barry calls Suzanne 11 times

2:44 Barry home (so at this point I now believe Suzanne is inside and not outside sunbathing)


I don't recall seeing a tweet about the communication saying JL wanted to get naked nor do I recall seeing the one about WOAH. These were both in the video where Lauren went over notes from day 3.


4:10 it is noted her phone is pinging at the house
4:23 her phone is pinging on Poncha (sp?) tower.

This makes me think they are not at the same place at 410 and 423 so even if there isn't a closer tower to her house, it is noted her phone is at the house?? Then at 423 it was another location.

Another thing I noted was Barry said he was looking for the Turkey his daughter had killed, but I assumed it was around the property at their house. Listening to Lauren's video and she said it was near the RV park and that is Monarch Spur RV Park. She said there isn't a road directly there, you have to go on a different road from the main road to get to this RV park. So I am not sure if that means he went to that location in his truck or if he walked from his property through the woods to this location. It didn't sound like it was right on his property though. This RV park is the same one he told LE to look into.

Another incidence where he is putting himself at a location that he later tells LE to look at. Almost as if he is giving himself a legit reason to be at a location they might find evidence. I think they need to look there more.
^^bbm

@justtrish - I've been quoting this post repeatedly and finally had a chance to watch the LS youtube PH recap #3, and also produced the transcript and I can't find this information there. Can you please provide the correct link for me. Big thanks. :)

@OldCop
 
  • #586
Don’t you think it’s possible that after the 6th, Barry played her and made her believe he was fine with the divorce and maybe she let down her guard and told him there was another man, not realizing he already had made up his mind to kill her? He is evil that way I believe.
Idk I think she was still wary enough to not say it aloud. I’m sure she worried for JL knowing what an 🤬🤬🤬 BM was and knowing his personal traits for years. I think she was hopeful and feeling optimistic. I don’t think she knew BM was hunting stalking and tracking her.. and look what he went and did.
 
  • #587
I have been away, any ideas on the 18 miles?
Garfield mine is 6.2 miles from the PP house to the main mine buildings, but it's another 2 or so miles to the upper tailings.
It was a lead, uranium and molybdenum mine. I am sure the tailings are not a tourist attraction.
 
  • #588
Don’t you think it’s possible that after the 6th, Barry played her and made her believe he was fine with the divorce and maybe she let down her guard and told him there was another man, not realizing he already had made up his mind to kill her? He is evil that way I believe.
I don’t. She was being secretive up until the end, telling him to switch apps, and letting him know when Barry was gone and she was available.
 
  • #589
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/ne...rs-confirm-suzanne-was-having-a-2-year-affair

8/13/21

Harris then explained how Suzanne came to know Libler.

The two had gone to high school in Indiana and hooked up during the summer of 1989 at a house party. Barry was not at the party. Twenty years later, they hooked up again, Harris said.

The relationship started platonic — talking about books, movies, Suzanne's cancer — but by February 2019, the two met up in New Orleans and fooled around in a hotel. Harris said they did not have sex.

They met up a few other times in 2019 as well, he said. They started communicating via WhatsApp and LinkedIn when Barry became suspicious.

After Suzanne's disappearance and once authorities tracked down Libler to talk, he said Suzanne's marriage was not good. The couple argued a lot, he said, and she repeatedly said she wanted to leave. However, she also said she couldn't divorce Barry for "Biblical reasons."

Upon discovering she may have been abducted, Libler deleted his accounts because he said it'd negatively affect Suzanne's daughters, Harris said.

[..]

Eytan said Suzanne seemed to keep lots of secrets, noting that the affair was not a short-term fling.

When Eytan said it lasted two years, Harris corrected the statement, saying it was actually a year and a half. The first witness on Monday, a commander with the Chaffee County Sheriff's Office, said the affair spanned two years, so it's not clear which is correct.

Suzanne did not tell her sister or best friends about Libler, Eytan said.

Barry claimed not to know about the affair when investigators told him, Harris
said. He said he thought she may have been having an emotional affair, but not a physical one.

[..]

On May 8, 2020, Libler messaged Suzanne saying, "You need to be my wife" and complimented her biking gear. The following morning, May 9, she texted him saying, "We need to be husband & wife."

Libler said the affair made him nervous and he didn't want to lose his job or his family. He said he didn't want Suzanne's legacy to be that she had an affair "with that guy."
Wonder if LE have figured out yet that from 1989 to 2019 is not 20 years. It’s 30 years. They hooked up 30 years later.
 
  • #590
I don’t. She was being secretive up until the end, telling him to switch apps, and letting him know when Barry was gone and she was available.
Maybe so, But just in the moment that week, I feel she may have told BM, regardless of what she was doing with JL and the apps. I guess I will never know.o_O
 
  • #591
JL did so many wrong things. He was putting his own family, and himself, in jeopardy for all of those months. He knew that Suzanne did not leave of her own accord, and he had no idea who could have had access to her phone, or if she had written about him in a journal or confided in someone. Did he ever consider that her husband murdered her because he found out? Did he not owe Suzanne-or his own family-anything? At bare minimum, he needed to ensure that his own family was safe from harm. He didn’t even bother to do that.
I agree with this. He was not thinking of his family.
 
  • #592
Maybe so, But just in the moment that week, I feel she may have told BM, regardless of what she was doing with JL and the apps. I guess I will never know.o_O
Grusing’s main point was that Barry likely tracked Suzanne, and learned of the affair that way.

So there was no evidence found that Suzanne did tell Barry, although many indications that he did likely know.
 
  • #593
To be honest, had he come forward, maybe the investigation would have taken a different course, and we would not have to wait not be so anxious about justice for SM.

But, I can imagine what it would have meant for JL. His family, his kids, his job...everything could be ruined. So as a human, I understand his cowardice, but I don't think it is forgivable, if he really loved SM.
How was he to know BM wouldn’t go after a member of his family in retaliation? He didn’t. He wasn’t thinking of his family.
 
  • #594
Grusing’s main point was that Barry likely tracked Suzanne, and learned of the affair that way.

So there was no evidence found that Suzanne did tell Barry, although many indications that he did likely know.
I get it. It was just a thought I had. She seemed like two different people. To her sister, she wrote that she felt scared and shared things with her. To her neighbor she seemed full of life and joy for two hours! What changed? I felt maybe she did tell Barry about another man and he told her he was letting her go and it caused her to relax and be off guard. Then he killed her.
 
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  • #595
But you're not addressing a direct quote here. I believe others have quoted JL as stating that "BM would have come after him" if he was aware of the affair.

I don't know anything about JL or his life but I don't think he's acting. He knew that he lost SM and is desperately trying to hang on to his family and his job! It's self-preservation from here on out. MOO[/QUOT
How was he to know BM wouldn’t go after a member of his family in retaliation? He didn’t. He wasn’t thinking of his family.


nope, he was thinking of himself. He had his wife and kids and SM on the side. When SM disappeared / likely murdered, he deleted messages and probably sighed with relief that he ‘wasn’t caught’. If he had loved her he would help find her, and have helped with the investigation .
 
  • #596
To me the big affair dates are October 2018 and Novenber 2018.

In October 2018 after theie major move to CO, Suzanne and Barry went around and around about Barry "working" too much.

In October 2018 Barry joined the Volunteer Fire Department, a huge time commitment.

We saw how casually BM lied in Broomfield about working, MOO I assume that to be a maddening pattern for Suzanne, and joining the VFF was the end of the marriage right there.

In November 2018 Suzanne sent a message to JL, and in January 2019 started the affair with him.

MOO she should have left BM instead. But she may not have lived through leaving then either.
 
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  • #597
Yet Barry never disclosed his knowledge of the affair to LE. Innuendo is just that.

I think Barry might have accused/suspected SM of having an affair even before she was/if she hadn't actually been. In other words I don't think he actually knew or had evidence, but rather accused her just because that's the kind of paranoid and blamey guy he is.

And I also think he threw out the "maybe it's someone who knows her well" as part of that generalized accusation, not because he had actual knowledge of her affair.

I realize this contradicts all the speculation about him "catching" her online with JL, but I don't think we know that's how it played out, and I don't actually think that's what happened.

I think, like others have said, he was realizing she meant it when she said she was done, and he couldn't let her do that, affair or no affair.

MOO
 
  • #598
I think LE would have uncovered it if he was having an affair. I think perhaps people want him to have been cheating on Suzanne because there were rumors back when they were in Indiana and once it was disclosed that Suzanne was unfaithful the desire for Barry to have been unfaithful grew.
LE might have very well found evidence of Barry's affair/s. But it's not relevant to the prosecution's case.

IMO, the fact is, he killed Suzanne in cold blood. I don't see ANY justification for killing Suzanne, none....

JMO
 
  • #599
I have been away, any ideas on the 18 miles?
Garfield mine is 6.2 miles from the PP house to the main mine buildings, but it's another 2 or so miles to the upper tailings.
It was a lead, uranium and molybdenum mine. I am sure the tailings are not a tourist attraction.
This is driving me absolutely crazy. I think they were alluding to the 18 missing miles in Ph were when he got rid of her phone at Poncha market and got caught dumpster diving but couldn’t come right out and say it. I don’t know why they introduced it and didn’t just say what they know at ph. Like it’s driving me crazy because I think prosecution totally knows.
 
  • #600
This door jamb crack is flimsy evidence. BM would have more likely opened the door lock coldly with a screw driver and not by forcing it. Poor SM. The room was staged. Doesn’t mean the crime took place there.
 
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