Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #79 *ARREST*

[susiQ]

The order to seal the arrest affidavit mentioned as a justification that Barry had liquidated his assets, and had netted over a million dollars from the sale of the puma path home (the point being he had the means to run).

We haven’t heard any specific numbers, but I tend to think he likely was worth a couple million.

BBM
Key word. IE and DN will be worth a couple million more when this is over.

 

[Deleted member 718]

I think one has to recognize the context of his statement: JL was responding to FBI when he said he did not think BM responsible (assuming this was his answer Nov 2020, BM pre-arrest).

I have no doubt his response would be different if asked by a friend. MOO

I wonder if JL had an attorney present. . .while speaking to the FBI.

 

[Seattle1]

I wonder if JL had an attorney present. . .while speaking to the FBI.

We know that JL asked FBI if he was under investigation and that they told him they would protect him. Whether or not he had an attorney is unknown, and I've wondered the same.

 

[10ofRods]

The order to seal the arrest affidavit mentioned as a justification that Barry had liquidated his assets, and had netted over a million dollars from the sale of the puma path home (the point being he had the means to run).

We haven’t heard any specific numbers, but I tend to think he likely was worth a couple million.

Where have you been! Surely you realize that you need to be here explaining things.

So...what do you think of the prosecution wanting 18 witnesses (all of them LE as far as I know - as is usual), and only getting, what, 4 witnesses? Is it enough?

 

[10ofRods]

We know that JL asked FBI if he was under investigation and that they told him they would protect him. Whether or not he had an attorney is unknown, and I've wondered the same.

Surely he would have, at this point. Hopefully someone who can refer him to a good family law attorney, if he doesn't have one because boy, the more I think about it, the worse I feel for his wife.

"Barry had not known about the affair. However, Harris said that in questioning Libler, Liler said if Barry had any idea he (Libler) and Suzanne were together Barry would have talked to him first and he didn’t think Barry had anything to do with her disappearance."

Preliminary trial reveals Suzanne had an affair

What am I missing?

You're missing the part where someone other than the FBI talks to Libler and what Libler actually knows. Libler is a dum-dum if he thinks Barry would have talked to him first.

I thought Barry was the one with the most hubris here - but I'm thinking JL is a close competitor.

Remember - more than one investigator has likely talked to Libler and Libler is not the person I'd ask for certainty about whether Barry knows.

On that note, I just checked my iCloud (held jointly with my husband) and no, he can't see my actual messages. However, on our joint phone account, we can both see how many minutes each of us talked on the phone each month. Me: 22 minutes. Him: 5 minutes. For last month.

If I had a 300 minute conversation with someone, in addition to my regular (short) communications, it would be noticeable to a would-be spy. Texts, though, go unrecorded.

I can see all of the contacts in my husband's phone and, of course, its location (he'd have to disabled Find My Phone for me to not see it, even with airplane mode). I wonder if LE has all those forensics - they'd need an expert to explain it, not just an ordinary phone-grabbing LE officer. No offense to the officers who compile all this, was making a joke.

 

[MassGuy]

Where have you been! Surely you realize that you need to be here explaining things.

So...what do you think of the prosecution wanting 18 witnesses (all of them LE as far as I know - as is usual), and only getting, what, 4 witnesses? Is it enough?

I assume they did intend to call more than they did, but never had any intention of calling 18. That was gamesmanship.

All the prosecution had to establish was that an “ordinary person could have a reasonable belief that the defendant committed the crimes for which he was charged.”

I’m not at all concerned in that regard.

 

[Deleted member 718]

Snap! I agree. He sat around 6 months thinking about what he was going to say. Just like the, I didn’t want this to be her legacy (eye roll) . It will be interesting to see BM and JL in the same room.

Yes, the courtroom.

 

[steeltowngirl]

"Barry had not known about the affair. However, Harris said that in questioning Libler, Liler said if Barry had any idea he (Libler) and Suzanne were together Barry would have talked to him first and he didn’t think Barry had anything to do with her disappearance."

Preliminary trial reveals Suzanne had an affair

What am I missing?

It is in there. Near the end. Also LS talks about JL not believing at first that it was Barry, until he heard him say the “if one person was saved” thing.

In this LS video at 23:39

Recap of Barry Morphew’s Prelim DAY 2

 

[kkdj]

The order to seal the arrest affidavit mentioned as a justification that Barry had liquidated his assets, and had netted over a million dollars from the sale of the puma path home (the point being he had the means to run).

We haven’t heard any specific numbers, but I tend to think he likely was worth a couple million.

that's what I thought, at least.

 

[kkdj]

IMO, I respectfully disagree. I don't agree the room/door was staged.

The door jamb damage is not flimsy evidence. IMO, a hard kick to the door knob/jamb would allow for someone's forceful entry. I think BM was in a maniac rage when he forced his way into their MBR.

JMO, IMO, etc..

I'm sure of it.
But we don't know when.
What we do know is that relationship had domestic violence.
Although i do believe they can find out how fresh the split was. The wood will tell how fresh the split is.
moo
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approximately how fresh the split is

 

[MyJoey]

Anyone else think BMs attorneys are going to blast JL for not going to the police? If he don’t feel like a fool now (which I’m sure he does), he will. Just for the record, because I seen it said he must have felt flattered because SM is so pretty. His JLs wife is beautiful also, I don’t think this was about looks.

 

[10ofRods]

To me the big affair dates are October 2018 and Novenber 2018.

In October 2018 after theie major move to CO, Suzanne and Barry went around and around about Barry "working" too much.

In October 2018 Barry joined the Volunteer Fire Department, a huge time commitment.

We saw how casually BM lied in Broomfield about working, MOO I assume that to be a maddening pattern for Suzanne, and joining the VFF was the end of the marriage right there.

In November 2018 Suzanne sent a message to JL, and in January 2019 started the affair with him.

MOO she should have left BM instead. But she may not have lived through leaving then either.

Can you say why you think the volunteer FF was a *huge* time commitment? I am a member of a volunteer fire brigade (have never been called out, thankfully). I put in about 12 hours a year. The town I grew up in had only 4 full time firefighters, and 200 volunteers. My uncles were both volunteers. One spent about 10 hours a year actually doing anything fire-related, the other only went to the barbecues and organized their float in the town parade.

I say this because I have a good friend who is chief of a fire academy and a colleague who is the chief of the only other fire academy in Southern California. The second group trains "volunteers" for wildfire certification (it costs about $500 to attend and they only take 20 people per year - it's an investment of about 80 hours - I am watching friends on the waitlist for that training for more than 4 years).

In other words, I'd say spending money for a real wildland fire training certificate (which is gained mostly by people who are seeking full time fire employment but are currently volunteers) is evidence of a moderate investment of time. 80 hours is two weeks of work. I've spent that much time training (per year) in forensics until I got old enough to semi-retire. My younger colleagues easily do that much - on their own time - just in hopes of publishing or getting tenure.

And I'll finish by saying that most of the people I know who are volunteer FF (or SARS) spend about 12-30 hours a week - documented - but we don't have that for Barry at all. Who has he searched for? Where is the documentation of any time spent other than training in 2016 and 2018 (summer volunteer training - we don't know how many hours. Was it like my training? Was it like the training of my colleagues who are now one level higher than I am? My initial training was 20 hours - I don't consider that major at all).

I spent way more time on WS (I realize I"m about a decade older than Barry, but still). I've looked into the volunteer fire training for Chaffee County and also into the various trainings at the Chaffee County"wildland" fire camp - and it looks like a fun weekend with barbecues, friendship, and learning to use a chain saw or other equipment (we had chain saws at my training too - and hoses, and search and rescue). They don't even have a rappel station or a wildland fire structure to train with. They do have a wood chipper.

Scroll down on this document for their curriculum:

https://www.chaffeecountyfire.org/s..._volunteer_information_packet_winter_2018.pdf

I've done all of that curriculum in my training (there are job related reasons why I did it, btw - but I didn't get paid to do it). I was not especially good at it - but neither were a lot of other people. I've actually done extra training in medical and community relations, as well as communications (I was named the Communications Officer for our practice runs). We didn't do river training, as there are no rivers in SoCal at this point in time, but we did do Earthquakes and Bombs.

From what I can tell, to get tthrough Chaffee volunteer FF, you need to put in about 4 hours a week (we put in 8 hours a week in my program, for 6 weeks) for 13 weeks. We did our oral interviews in advance and had to do CPR separately. I will admit I only watched during vehicle extraction - but that was true of nearly all of us.

My point is that being a volunteer FF is a wonderful way to serve one's community and my certificate is proudly displayed on my wall. I am envious of those who went on to further levels of training, but still, here I am, able to show my credential to a real, certified, salaried FF if we have a catastrophic event here in my area (and we could - the Thomas Fire just missed where I live by about a mile and I did get to volunteer for communications and traffic management - my vest and my official stuff is in my car right now).

We didn't get a barbecue as a graduation - but a lot of people did go out afterwards for food and drinks (I didn't, it wasn't a social thing for me). It's a social thing in my home town, not so much in my work town.

I only wish I'd done level 2, to learn to belay (but to do that, I had to volunteer to rappel...I wonder if Barry ever rappelled anything - I would wager that he hasn't; the equipment needed would be provided by the volunteer - I have it - it's not cheap).

 

[MyJoey]

Any thoughts on who SMs phone called in the AM hours ? Was it a bump call? Did some one pickup at the other end? Was BM playing trying to get in her phone and accidentally called someone? I imagine she had a passcode on her phone. That will be interesting to find out also.

 

[MsBetsy]

Surely he would have, at this point. Hopefully someone who can refer him to a good family law attorney, if he doesn't have one because boy, the more I think about it, the worse I feel for his wife.



You're missing the part where someone other than the FBI talks to Libler and what Libler actually knows. Libler is a dum-dum if he thinks Barry would have talked to him first.

I thought Barry was the one with the most hubris here - but I'm thinking JL is a close competitor.

Remember - more than one investigator has likely talked to Libler and Libler is not the person I'd ask for certainty about whether Barry knows.

On that note, I just checked my iCloud (held jointly with my husband) and no, he can't see my actual messages. However, on our joint phone account, we can both see how many minutes each of us talked on the phone each month. Me: 22 minutes. Him: 5 minutes. For last month.

If I had a 300 minute conversation with someone, in addition to my regular (short) communications, it would be noticeable to a would-be spy. Texts, though, go unrecorded.

I can see all of the contacts in my husband's phone and, of course, its location (he'd have to disabled Find My Phone for me to not see it, even with airplane mode). I wonder if LE has all those forensics - they'd need an expert to explain it, not just an ordinary phone-grabbing LE officer. No offense to the officers who compile all this, was making a joke.

So which is correct? That JL did or did not say anything of the kind? Did he say one thing to the FBI and something else to another person?

The OP stated that JL said he felt Barry would have spoken to him if he knew anything about the affair. This seems to be correct as the OP quoted what was said in the article that was linked.

Did he say in a different interview that he thought Barry would have come after him if he learned of the affair? That would make more sense but I don't think I've seen a source for that.

 

[kkdj]

Anyone else think BMs attorneys are going to blast JL for not going to the police? If he don’t feel like a fool now (which I’m sure he does), he will. Just for the record, because I seen it said he must have felt flattered because SM is so pretty. His JLs wife is beautiful also, I don’t think this was about looks.

They might try.
BM murdered his wife, allegedly.
I'm sure JL was in survival mode for many reasons!
The fact of the affair works against BM imo. It gives motive.
That's why BM denied knowledge imo.
He knew.
moo

 

[steeltowngirl]

Any thoughts on who SMs phone called in the AM hours ? Was it a bump call? Did some one pickup at the other end? Was BM playing trying to get in her phone and accidentally called someone? I imagine she had a passcode on her phone. That will be interesting to find out also.

Poor Barry. He probably said that must have been Suzanne making a call and then she didn’t pick up when the person called her back. He has such bad luck. Had the person talked with Suzanne, that would have proved she was still alive in the wee hours. And not dead in the afternoon Saturday.

I am sure these were also his bad luck…
- Suzanne texts sister he’s abusive. She disappears the next day.
- Barry’s truck and phone could help corroborate his whereabouts Saturday afternoon. His truck GPS mysteriously reboots.
- Had Suzanne called Jeff, her sister, or their daughters on Sunday while he was in Broomfield, he’d have a fair to good alibi. She didn’t.
- His memory fails him when he tries to recall 18 important missing miles.
- His tricky phone accidentally goes into airplane mode all by its self.

He had some extraordinarily unlucky instances.

 

[MyJoey]

Poor Barry. He probably said that must have been Suzanne making a call and then she didn’t pick up when the person called her back. He has such bad luck. Had the person talked with Suzanne, that would have proved she was still alive in the wee hours. And not dead in the afternoon Saturday.

I am sure these were also his bad luck…
- Suzanne texts sister he’s abusive. She disappears the next day.
- Barry’s truck and phone could help corroborate his whereabouts Saturday afternoon. His truck GPS mysteriously reboots.
- Had Suzanne called Jeff, her sister, or their daughters on Sunday while he was in Broomfield, he’d have a fair to good alibi. She didn’t.
- His memory fails him when he tries to recall 18 important missing miles.
- His tricky phone accidentally goes into airplane mode all by its self.

He had some extraordinarily unlucky instances.

Laughing well it’s not unlucky every day…..just this one ‍.

 

[MyJoey]

Barry Morphew texted wife about suicide days before she disappeared: ‘Going to see my savior’
@MsBetsy bottom of the page JL says BM would come after me.

 

[Seattle1]

So which is correct? That JL did or did not say anything of the kind? Did he say one thing to the FBI and something else to another person?

The OP stated that JL said he felt Barry would have spoken to him if he knew anything about the affair. This seems to be correct as the OP quoted what was said in the article that was linked.

Did he say in a different interview that he thought Barry would have come after him if he learned of the affair? That would make more sense but I don't think I've seen a source for that.

Here you go:

Lauren Scharf@LaurenScharfTV

Libler didn’t believe that Barry Morphew knew about him. "If he knew about me, he would have came after me. I just don’t think he knew that Suzanne and I were together."

3:44 PM · Aug 9, 2021

 

[Puzzles8]

Could be staging, like the bike or it could be a man dramatically breaking through to terrorize.

I think those MB doors are almost always double doors, impossible to barricade.

I have looked through real estate listings of the house and I can't find any photos of the MBR doors, either single or double.
Do we know if they were double?