Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #79 *ARREST*

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  • #761
I've never kept a pair of laces in my life and neither did my kid or husband. They wear out faster than the sneakers/boots.
I've definitely bought new shoelaces, though.
Endless reasons.
This is why liars speak in flack.
It forces the time available and bandwidth of the questioning opportunity into exhausting goose chases.
 
  • #762
All I can do is quote Freud (weak, I know).

(Some) humans have a death wish.

Having just typed that, I remember how I prayed to die early, when I was in the abusive relationship. Sick, right? I didn't get myself into therapy until a particular incident in our home, when I was left questioning my sanity and was pretty suicidal. But I still kept having this general desire to die soon, for at least a few years. Freud noted a number of human behaviors that made him question whether people actually have rational self-interest, and his idea of the "death wish" encompassed all of those findings of his (it was new stuff when he was writing).



From the compiled tweets on Days 3 and 4, JL had just told Suzanne that "his crew was away," so he was alone. She knew she was alone (and probably thought she would be, as Barry had come home for lunch and usually didn't come back on a Saturday afternoon, IMO). Suzanne texts him the bathing suit photo and then he asks for nudes, IIRC. Sounds like they thought it was a good time for this. I think they were talking about as freely as any couple could...
About the death wish thingy. I’m not up to speed on Freud, but the only one having a death wish was Barry……for Suzanne :(. He feigned having a death wish for himself, but that’s just what lying narcissists do. His love of self prevented him from doing it. That’s too bad because the world would be a better place without him, and a better place with Suzanne. And, his children wouldn’t have any financial worries. If he really loved his children he would come clean and save the legal expenses that are going to leave him poor….as a church mouse. (Another critter for our zoo!) :)
 
  • #763
Affair or not, Suzanne was not going to leave BM alive. Period. She is the victim here, and hopefully the Prosecution will weed out the morality police during voir dire.

She was isolated and lonely, maybe even wondering if she would survive another round of cancer. I do not judge Suzanne for her choices, whether or not I agree.

She is and always will be the VICTIM of a controlling, unfeeling, NARC with some form of personality disorder. IMO

I'm just so sorry her decision to start a new life without BM meant losing her own life in the process. He was never going to let her go and be happy without him, ever.

MOO
MOO they are all terrified of him.
JL wipes his existence immediately. Says he doesn't think BM is involved.
Sister doesn't know what to do with her sister's revelation of abuse, MOO that reads to me that the sister had to calculate possibly bringing BMs vengeance onto herself and her own family.
MOO This is why Suzanne was isolated, there was the threat of annahilation right below the surface.
 
  • #764
Right. But I do wonder if their tryst (around 2 pm on Saturday) wasn't suddenly stopped (perhaps that happened all the time? That's kind of how I picture it). So he goes back to more neutral topics - and still doesn't hear from her. Too bad they hadn't downloaded the FindFriends app or similar where you can grant permission to friends to see your cell phone position - he could have used that to at least see what was up (not just this time, but occasionally, when he didn't hear from her for quite some time).

I think it's possible that they had been interrupted mid-convo many times, because Barry was constantly and intrusively popping in and out (because he suspected Suzanne, IMO). In that case, JL did what he could and tried to be patient.

But after 48 hours (unless it was common for them to go that long without any communication - which is possible), I'd type my beloved's name into news.google.com, for sure. Especially if I was having an affair and didn't have any other way of figuring out where they might be. After 72 hours, I would think almost anyone would do that - but, then, I hang out with people focused on crime. I don't believe him if he says he didn't wipe his phone until about 10-12 days later. This case made national headlines (I'd have to go look up when, but the FBI involvement and the case made both national and international headlines by about a week).

If it is true he didn't hear about it until 10-12 days later, and then deleted things and turned in his phone for a new one, he definitely may have destroyed evidence. She was, by then, a missing person and it was a criminal investigation...

(I'm sorry that I"m so hard on JL - I'm trying to get over it, talking to you helps).
No worries, I'm not defending or giving JL a pass at all. I'm sure a lot of us have been on either end of an unfaithful relationship at some point in our lives.

I'm just trying to focus on BM murdering Suzanne and hoping he spends the rest of his life in prison for doing so.

Whether or not she was having an affair does not negate or change that in any way, nor does it make him less guilty.

I read that JL and Suzanne would normally text a goodnight and a good morning every day IIRC, so I'm sure he had a good idea something was up after a few days at the most.

JMO
 
  • #765
Tbey are afraid because he is aggressive and unfriendl, coupled with the fact that his hobby constantlyb
engaged in, is killing.
"Hunting" sounds more manly because it is associated with bringing food to the family.
But i'ts not manly to kill so much more than is neccessary, mostly for home decor.
 
  • #766
Endless reasons.
This is why liars speak in flack.
It forces the time available and bandwidth of the questioning opportunity into exhausting goose chases.
I don't find Barry that bright. His mouth was moving. IMO, the shoelaces were nothing but an excuse and likely ended up where the boots were tossed or in another receptacle altogether.
In other words, I agree with you but played with the idea for a minute for the sake of argument and possibilities.
eta: typo
 
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  • #767
About the death wish thingy. I’m not up to speed on Freud, but the only one having a death wish was Barry……for Suzanne :(. He feigned having a death wish for himself, but that’s just what lying narcissists do. His love of self prevented him from doing it. That’s too bad because the world would be a better place without him, and a better place with Suzanne. And, his children wouldn’t have any financial worries. If he really loved his children he would come clean and save the legal expenses that are going to leave him poor….as a church mouse. (Another critter for our zoo!) :)
For anyone to come clean after a crime for the sake of their children, they would need a conscience. They would need to be selfless. After all he didn’t think of going to prison before the crime. Why would he want to face prison now for someone else’s benefit? Nope. BM will fight to the death. He wanted Suzanne gone. And he wants to be free to start over with his money and her money. I doubt he is even thinking of spending a penney on the girls. He probably daydreams of marrying them off to wealthy men. Ya know, another relative to borrow money from.
 
  • #768
I won't, for a moment, pretend I know how much fear JL felt ( in reference to being a victim of BM.)

But....how many trips to Indiana had BM made between May 2020 and Nov. 2020?
The 3.5 hour trip from Alexandria to JL's home in Michigan.is NOT THAT FAR. IMHO

Protection of JL by the FBI from Nov. 2020 until May 5, 2021 must have been such a welcomed relief (for our resident mouse.)

Justice is just around the corner, Suzanne.

MOO
I have often wondered why BM made all of those trips back to Indiana.

ETA - IMO, after SM's disappearance, there might have been some Colorado general contractors not wanting to work with him anymore.

Maybe he was going back to IN to find work or dispose of evidence?

JMO, IMO, etc.
 
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  • #769
I don't find find Barry that bright. His mouth was moving. IMO, the shoelaces were nothing but an excuse and likely ended up where the boots were tossed or in another receptacle altogether.
In other words, I agree with you but played with the idea for a minute for the sake of argument and possibilities.
I find all his answers like this, a habit of deflection not to get pinned down.
 
  • #770
I find all his answers like this, a habit of deflection not to get pinned down
It's like he has an answer for everything...but every one is rubbish :rolleyes:
 
  • #771
I never keep them, because all laces are worn (often more than I realize) where they pass through the eyes, and if it's hiking boots, a lot of us tie those pretty tightly. If I kept laces from my various shoes, I'd need a larger house (we have a small house - Barry would have kept his in his truck, I imagine, along with all his other junk).

I agree with others, though, that the laces will not play much of a role in the trial. I suspect LE can figure out from photos what brand boots Barry had, but footprints around the house aren't going to be forensically useful (much) unless there were newish ones right by the master bedroom window (surely Barry thought of that).
Too bad prosecution didn't think of window peeping....might have been a more believable theory than the idea of Barry chasing Suzanne around with a tranquilizer gun at 35 mph on foot.
 
  • #772
Tbey are afraid because he is aggressive and unfriendl, coupled with the fact that his hobby constantlyb
engaged in, is killing.
"Hunting" sounds more manly because it is associated with bringing food to the family.
But i'ts not manly to kill so much more than is neccessary, mostly for home decor.
I would speculate BM hunted even for fun or pleasure considering he admitted to randomly shooting 85 chipmunks from his breezeway and driveway. :eek:

MOO
 
  • #773
Right. But I do wonder if their tryst (around 2 pm on Saturday) wasn't suddenly stopped (perhaps that happened all the time? That's kind of how I picture it). So he goes back to more neutral topics - and still doesn't hear from her. Too bad they hadn't downloaded the FindFriends app or similar where you can grant permission to friends to see your cell phone position - he could have used that to at least see what was up (not just this time, but occasionally, when he didn't hear from her for quite some time).

I think it's possible that they had been interrupted mid-convo many times, because Barry was constantly and intrusively popping in and out (because he suspected Suzanne, IMO). In that case, JL did what he could and tried to be patient.

But after 48 hours (unless it was common for them to go that long without any communication - which is possible), I'd type my beloved's name into news.google.com, for sure. Especially if I was having an affair and didn't have any other way of figuring out where they might be. After 72 hours, I would think almost anyone would do that - but, then, I hang out with people focused on crime. I don't believe him if he says he didn't wipe his phone until about 10-12 days later. This case made national headlines (I'd have to go look up when, but the FBI involvement and the case made both national and international headlines by about a week).

If it is true he didn't hear about it until 10-12 days later, and then deleted things and turned in his phone for a new one, he definitely may have destroyed evidence. She was, by then, a missing person and it was a criminal investigation...

(I'm sorry that I"m so hard on JL - I'm trying to get over it, talking to you helps).
Why be sorry for being so hard on JL? He isn’t dead. He had his cake and got to eat it too. For a while. Now he can man up and face his family, friends, defense attorneys, whoever. That’s life. Suzanne doesn’t get a do over.
 
  • #774
I find all his answers like this, a habit of deflection not to get pinned down.
Yes. Look over there! I suspect Suzanne came to know it too well, eventually. Deflection, obfuscation and confusion.
The difference is, LE wasn't invested in their marriage.
 
  • #775
Too bad prosecution didn't think of window peeping....might have been a more believable theory than the idea of Barry chasing Suzanne around with a tranquilizer gun at 35 mph on foot.
Hey wait a minute. You don’t know that their theory isn’t correct. The 35 mph part is on you. Chasing her with a weapon sounds just like BM.
 
  • #776
The only thing, as far as we know, the defence can prove Suzanne lied about (and that only by omission) was not telling anyone about her relationship with JL. I have no doubt the prosecution can and will prove just how many times BM has lied during the last 16 months. I would be extremely surprised if the defence could produce even one witness to show that Suzanne was a habitual, prolific liar. That dubious honour is reserved for BM. MOO

Unfortunately, lying about an affair (which is only natural, in most situations) leads to a lot of other associated lying.

And the defense doesn't necessarily even have to put BM on the stand to highlight that. They can likely put one or both of the daughters on the stand and ask them various questions, like "So where did mum say she was going when she went to New Orleans to meet her lover?"

If given the opportunity, I think the defense will spring at the chance to point out every mistruth surrounding the affair ... to try to make the jury (or even one member of the jury) think that Suzanne was a habitual liar. That it is extremely questionable that BM was bad to her, questionable that he had a reason to kill her. Reasonable doubt.

(I am not defending their position, I am just trying to be realistic about what course of action the defense may take in defending their client.)
 
  • #777
It's like he has an answer for everything...but every one is rubbish :rolleyes:
Yup lots of smart 🤬🤬🤬 answers. I'm sure LE was fed up with it all. Hence the charges with the LE addded on to the murder charge.
 
  • #778
Well, there is no one to explain to...except his lawyers. What he has said is on the record and if his lawyers have any say he won't be saying anymore. What prosecution has is on record, too. So what they gots is what they gots for a couple weeks from now. I'm seriously curious what the prosecutions 15 minute summation is going to be especially since they couldn't get an arrest affidavit down from 130+ pages :) ...that 15 minutes should be the meat of whatever it is they have.
BBM
Maybe, or it will just be the foie gras, a mere sampling of his cooked “goose.” :). The trial will serve up the “prime rib.”
 
  • #779
Hey wait a minute. You don’t know that their theory isn’t correct. The 35 mph part is on you. Chasing her with a weapon sounds just like BM.
Also, the choice seems to be a) randomly shooting chipmunks or b) chasing down his wife who has never been seen since.

I'm going for b)
 
  • #780
Also, the choice seems to be a) randomly shooting chipmunks or b) chasing down his wife who has never been seen since.

I'm going for b)
Love it. Thanks.
 
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