CO - Tim Watkins, 61, shot to death, Mount Herman, 14 Sept 2017 #1

[Steleheart]

That charge was dropped as part of the plea deal. JoCo is doing all the paperwork ATM not CaCo. I cannot see how he could be released with a hold on him from another state and the probable cause for the warrant plus this Discovery motion so I just don't know where he can be if he has to be held for this extradition process to play out. He was supposed to be in Clear Creek till the 24th Jan.

Yes his Failure to Register in El Paso County was a misdemenor which was settled with his plea deal. His Failure to Register in Johnson County, IN is a class 6 Felony however.

I think we need 48 hours minimun or maybe until Monday for his status to show as "Bonded Out" in Co before we jump in circles. JMO..

Maybe the FBI can set up a phony lottery win in Indiana and lure him there, :laughing:

 

[Steleheart]

Here you go Foxbluff. I would have thought he would look a little happier if he was being set free. Maybe there's a reason he's not smiling!!!!

I think, they're just using file photos.

Just to reiterate.... those elephant ears on his neck look nothing like BG's ears on his jaw..

No offense to elephants, JMO.

 

[FrostedGlass]

Have you a LE or MSM link that says he was released even though he has an out of state warrant hold on him?

Could you please link to the out of state warrant hold?

 

[Shiressleuth]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...Delphi-13-Feb-2017-79&p=13860322#post13860322

See the link in Misty's post above.
Clear Creek Co would have to ignore the JoCo In warrant to release DN so I don't think that has happened. In fact that is possibly the reason for the Motion for Discovery Compliance so that they cannot ignore it IMO.

Unless I see a LE or MSM statement saying DN has been released then I will presume he is still in jail.

 

[FrostedGlass]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...Delphi-13-Feb-2017-79&p=13860322#post13860322

I don't see anything on that thread about a hold. Please link me to the actual out of state warrant hold. This is the only hold I've seen placed on him:

49G08-1611-CM-044537 Marion Superior Court
Possession of Marijuana, Possession of Paraphernalia,
Knowingly or Intentionally Operating Motor Vehicle w/o Ever Receiving a License
*** 11/17/2016 Request For Party To Be Held In Custody, Request for 7 Day Hold
*** 11/17/2016 Party To Be Held In Custody, NO BOND HOLD FOR 3 DAYS, THEN DEFENDANT RELEASED
05/25/2017 Warrant or Writ of Attmnt for the Body of a Person Issued

mycase.IN.gov

 

[Shiressleuth]

I don't see anything on that thread about a hold. Please link me to the actual out of state warrant hold. This is the only hold I've seen placed on him:

49G08-1611-CM-044537 Marion Superior Court
Possession of Marijuana, Possession of Paraphernalia,
Knowingly or Intentionally Operating Motor Vehicle w/o Ever Receiving a License
*** 11/17/2016 Request For Party To Be Held In Custody, Request for 7 Day Hold
*** 11/17/2016 Party To Be Held In Custody, NO BOND HOLD FOR 3 DAYS, THEN DEFENDANT RELEASED
05/25/2017 Warrant or Writ of Attmnt for the Body of a Person Issued

mycase.IN.gov

Try it again. That link takes you to a post by Misty which contains a link showing the JoCo warrant for a Felony 6 FTR and also the Probable Cause for that warrant plus the Notice for Discovery compliance. Alternatively read back thru this thread and you will also find it (post 692). Area 52 just posted it again ↓↓↓↓ . Failing both of those you can pull up all the warrants on mycase.in just by entering DN's name too.

 

[Area52]

FrostedGlass. This is from a few days ago.

 

[FrostedGlass]

FrostedGlass. This is from a few days ago.

Thanks. That is a week old. Do they have an updated one?

I see 2 out of county holds but no out of state holds. We know he had one warrant issued while he was in jail waiting for his court date. I have no idea what the writs are about.

 

[FrostedGlass]

Try it again. That link takes you to a post by Misty which contains a link showing the JoCo warrant for a Felony 6 FTR and also the Probable Cause for that warrant plus the Motion for Discovery compliance. Alternatively read back thru this thread and you will also find it (post 692). Area 52 just posted it again ↓↓↓↓ . Failing both of those you can pull up all the warrants on mycase.in just by entering DN's name too.

I did look at all his warrants. I'm guessing that a Notice of Discovery Compliance is not a Motion for Discovery Compliance. We don't even know if Discovery is a hold request.

I'll be interested to see what Indiana does. I would be willing to guess they will let him serve his term in Colorado before they decide to bring him back. The Indiana warrants stay good until he takes care to them.

Marion County had a warrant out for him in May but I don't know how states settle who gets first dibbs.

 

[Area52]

Thanks. That is a week old. Do they have an updated one?

I see 2 out of county holds but no out of state holds. We know he had one warrant issued while he was in jail waiting for his court date. I have no idea what the writs are about.

These 2 writs (warrants) were issued in Indiana after DN was incarcerated in Colorado. One is from Greenwood City and one is from Johnson County. These would have resulted in "holds" being placed on him pending his release from charges in Colorado . A third warrant is also issued out of Marion County on 5/25/17 that is still active.

 

[Shiressleuth]

I did look at all his warrants. I'm guessing that a Notice of Discovery Compliance is not a Motion for Discovery Compliance. We don't even know if Discovery is a hold request.

I'll be interested to see what Indiana does. I would be willing to guess they will let him serve his term in Colorado before they decide to bring him back. The Indiana warrants stay good until he takes care to them.

Marion County had a warrant out for him in May but I don't know how states settle who gets first dibbs.

I noticed I put Motion instead of Notice and already corrected it. I think there are 5 warrants altogether but only the one Felony warrant from JoCo so I would think that would take precedence over the misdemeanour warrants. DN didn't get "time" only probation in Co but I think he is looking at a custodial sentence if he does come back to JoCo.

 

[Hatfield]

Thanks everyone to try to make sense of it.

I have no clue about what a lot of it means but it is very interesting.

All I know is when I see "Out of Custody" it sure seems to mean he could be out of custody


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=128681&d=1515714153

 

[FrostedGlass]

These 2 writs (warrants) were issued in Indiana after DN was incarcerated in Colorado. One is from Greenwood City and one is from Johnson County. These would have resulted in "holds" being placed on him pending his release from charges in Colorado . A third warrant is also issued out of Marion County on 5/25/17 that is still active.

Thanks. I guess it's going to be all about DN for a long, long time. Sigh...

 

[Jax49]

Is there any info that indicates Colorado currently has any interest in DN as the killer of TW? TIA

 

[MistyWaters]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...Delphi-13-Feb-2017-79&p=13860322#post13860322

See the link in Misty's post above.
Clear Creek Co would have to ignore the JoCo In warrant to release DN so I don't think that has happened. In fact that is possibly the reason for the Motion for Discovery Compliance so that they cannot ignore it IMO.

Unless I see a LE or MSM statement saying DN has been released then I will presume he is still in jail.

Maybe we missed the extradition hearing in Colorado? No extradition hearing, no extradition from Colorado to Indiana because nobody wants him at the cost to collect him. Indiana LE cannot cross state lines and simpy arrest on a warrant in a different State. I think this legal article outlines the process quite clearly. Of course others may possibly disagree.
http://www.criminaldefenseteam.com/Blog/2016/October/The-Extradition-Process-in-Indiana.aspx

 

[cathdawg]

DN Back in Jail
Offender Name: NATIONS, DANIEL JAMES
Custody Status: In Custody
Age: 32
Location: Clear Creek County Sheriff's Office

 

[cathdawg]

LINK: https://www.vinelink.com/#/search

 

[Shiressleuth]

Maybe we missed the extradition hearing in Colorado? No extradition hearing, no extradition from Colorado to Indiana because nobody wants him at the cost to collect him. Indiana LE cannot cross state lines and simpy arrest on a warrant in a different State. I think this legal article outlines the process quite clearly. Of course others may possibly disagree.
http://www.criminaldefenseteam.com/Blog/2016/October/The-Extradition-Process-in-Indiana.aspx

The other link you posted seemed to indicate that they could. Also, don't bounty hunters do that all the time?

 

[Shiressleuth]

DN Back in Jail
Offender Name: NATIONS, DANIEL JAMES
Custody Status: In Custody
Age: 32
Location: Clear Creek County Sheriff's Office

Ok. Thanks Cath. Glad you're still here. That is good. He's not skiing or in Mexico or Indiana then after all.

 

[MistyWaters]

The other link you posted seemed to indicate that they could. Also, don't bounty hunters do that all the time?

i think you misread the link I posted. And no, bounty hunters seek criminals when there is a reward offered for their capture.