Cobra: Tapes, Interviews & Case Discussion

[elle1919]

Has LE named Snodgrass a suspect? Or did they say they investigated and found that his GPS device was working correctly and that he was no where near the MH where Misty says she was with Jr and Haleigh when Haleigh disappeared?

I did address this in my post. Law Enforcement has stated that Ronald and Crystal are not suspects yet everyone is still free to sleuth them out correct? A statement given by Law Enforcement pertaining to DS could be given to the media for a number of reasons. Law Enforcement has cleared no-one in this case. That leaves the all the world a suspect. JMO

 

[Malesherbes]

LE has not named ANY suspects. They also said they investigated and that they were satisfied RC was at work during the time Haleigh disappeared, but people don't believe that. Yet, they will believe it about a RSO that has a history of abusing little girls! Blows my mind.

Right, but Rons own lawyer, one of his self proclaimed best friends said LE told him that Ron moved from the top of their list to the bottom, and that unless they were with him all night that night, they cant clear him- So right there, we know what they tell the public isn't the same thing they tell the people directly involved in this case-

This guy has a device on him, I guess now to run with this theory one should prove Misty went to Snodgrasses home that night- anyone have that info?

 

[curvecuti]

Right, but Rons own lawyer, one of his self proclaimed best friends said LE told him that Ron moved from the top of their list to the bottom, and that unless they were with him all night that night, they cant clear him- So right there, we know what they tell the public isn't the same thing they tell the people directly involved in this case-

This guy has a device on him, I guess now to run with this theory one should prove Misty went to Snodgrasses home that night- anyone have that info?

Ron's lawyer also said he was at work that night. Are we going to believe that too? This is NOT directed at anyone in particular, just a general statement, It's hard not to pick and choose who and what you want to believe when it fits your theory.
I try to look to see what LE says about things, BUT they are only human, and humans make mistakes. I would like to know if the ankle GPS did have a "home" range and what that distance was. Those devices are not infallible.

 

[Malesherbes]

Ron's lawyer also said he was at work that night. Are we going to believe that too? This is NOT directed at anyone in particular, just a general statement, It's hard not to pick and choose who and what you want to believe when it fits your theory.
I try to look to see what LE says about things, BUT they are only human, and humans make mistakes. I would like to know if the ankle GPS did have a "home" range and what that distance was. Those devices are not infallible.

Well, I know how Lawyers work, and I know Shoemaker wasn't with Ron all night either, so Ron can say he was at work all night, and thats fine, maybe he was, but that still does not mean he could not be culpable in a few ways, like if the child got into his drugs, he may not have been there, but it would still be his fault, etc-

 

[curvecuti]

Well, I know how Lawyers work, and I know Shoemaker wasn't with Ron all night either, so Ron can say he was at work all night, and thats fine, maybe he was, but that still does not mean he could not be culpable in a few ways, like if the child got into his drugs, he may not have been there, but it would still be his fault, etc-

How in the world would it be RC's fault if Haleigh got into drugs? Kids get into all kinds of things that can kill them, that's why there is Poison Control in this country. And Shoemaker is not the only person who said RC was at work, LE said he was at work. The things that can be twisted to make RC culpable amaze me.

 

[Malesherbes]

How in the world would it be RC's fault if Haleigh got into drugs? Kids get into all kinds of things that can kill them, that's why there is Poison Control in this country. And Shoemaker is not the only person who said RC was at work, LE said he was at work. The things that can be twisted to make RC culpable amaze me.

If the child got into lets say, crack, or something Ron did not hold a script for, he would be in trouble- I mean, thats just a fact- I am not sure why some cant expand their mind and look at things that could have happened when ron was at work, and he could still be responsible, like, he hit the child in a fight before work and she died hours later as a result, I mean you may not like it or want to believe that, but that does not mean it didn't happen-

 

[DotsEyes]

Lemme just think out loud here. LE heard these tapes of MistyS talking about how DS was on 20/20 over an unsolved murder, her mother goes to the hospital and wakes up with stories about DS killing a child while she was present, sheds with body parts, dismembering children and somehow we think LE ignored this information.

Nope. Sorry. Didn't happen.

Again, Cobra in action.

 

[DotsEyes]

Haleigh was 5 years old. She isn't going to smoke crack and isn't going to eat dope because it tastes terrible - she would spit it out. Heaven's to Betsy you can't get a kid to eat brocoli but they are going to chew on some OXY's? Come on folks, think for a minute.

She didn't chew up Daddy's stash.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Lemme just think out loud here. LE heard these tapes of MistyS talking about how DS was on 20/20 over an unsolved murder, her mother goes to the hospital and wakes up with stories about DS killing a child while she was present, sheds with body parts, dismembering children and somehow we think LE ignored this information.

Nope. Sorry. Didn't happen.

Again, Cobra in action.

I'm hearing you. But, Snodgrass involved himself by taking furniture to Haleigh's Center to donate. How do you feel about that one? Why would a hardened crazed sexual demon give a crap when he personally likes hurting and destroying little girls, with their parents only hundreds of yards away? He's brazen, and he puts himself within the circle, no?

hehehe loved your last post, kids don't suck on and chew on and savor drugs. The smell most of the time would deter them, especially medicine.

 

[elle1919]

Lemme just think out loud here. LE heard these tapes of MistyS talking about how DS was on 20/20 over an unsolved murder, her mother goes to the hospital and wakes up with stories about DS killing a child while she was present, sheds with body parts, dismembering children and somehow we think LE ignored this information.

Nope. Sorry. Didn't happen.

Again, Cobra in action.

Hi there Dots. I don't think anyone is trying to say that law Enforcement dismissed or ignored the information. Not at all. Law Enforcement has not made a connection between DS and Haleigh's disappearance at this time.

I had a very negative opinion of Cobra when he entered this case and I have to admit I felt as though he was trying to attract attention to himself and his profession of Bounty Hunting. I still have not formed a complete opinion of the man but I must express that the crimes of DS are very very disturbing to me and if Cobra proves nothing he will still have succeeded in informing Florida and her sister states that a very sick man will soon be on trial and hopefully brought to justice. This man is accused of a crimes against children and regardless if one of his transgressions was against Haleigh or not....all children could use someone....even Cobra...to spread the word about people who have one need. What need?....Our Children!

Sorry Rant over.

 

[Donjeta]

Haleigh was 5 years old. She isn't going to smoke crack and isn't going to eat dope because it tastes terrible - she would spit it out. Heaven's to Betsy you can't get a kid to eat brocoli but they are going to chew on some OXY's? Come on folks, think for a minute.

She didn't chew up Daddy's stash.

Here's a four year old who got ill despite the taste:

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/07/28/crimesider/entry5193652.shtml

TAMPA, Fla. (CBS/AP) A 4-year-old Tampa girl ate a bag of Skittles and got a little more than just a sugar high.

The Skittles were tainted with the high-powered pain reliever Oxycontin.

The girl was with her grandparents, driving home Monday from Tampa International Airport, when she became lethargic. They took her to a hospital where she was treated and later released.

Authorities say deputies found several pills mixed in with the Skittles, and say the bag had been resealed. Airport police Chief Paul Sireci says officers pulled about 30 bags of Skittles off store shelves as a precaution.


Regarding Snodgrass, his roomie isn't wearing a GPS bracelet, is he? Does he have a record for anything?

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Hi there Dots. I don't think anyone is trying to say that law Enforcement dismissed or ignored the information. Not at all. Law Enforcement has not made a connection between DS and Haleigh's disappearance at this time.

I had a very negative opinion of Cobra when he entered this case and I have to admit I felt as though he was trying to attract attention to himself and his profession of Bounty Hunting. I still have not formed a complete opinion of the man but I must express that the crimes of DS are very very disturbing to me and if Cobra proves nothing he will still have succeeded in informing Florida and her sister states that a very sick man will soon be on trial and hopefully brought to justice. This man is accused of a crimes against children and regardless if one of his transgressions was against Haleigh or not....all children could use someone....even Cobra...to spread the word about people who have one need. What need?....Our Children!

Sorry Rant over.

I don't understand how LE took their eyes off of him so fast. All I want to know is what kind of investigation occurred? Seems to me, that LE already knew he had a pending trial for his crimes against children. Could they not have wanted it muddied up with this case since they were ready and due to go to court?

Now that LE hasn't been able to nail Misty to the way, their "Key", why aren't they looking back at these earlier tips, predators in the area of Haleigh. Especially this one. He involved himself into the case. He has family of his girlfriends/wives still not clear what Misty's mother was to Snodgrass. She and another family member called into crimestoppers, contacted cobra, as she didn't feel good about contacting LE according to her for whatever reasons. So Cobra went and recorded her on the record.

A far out thought I had this morning, lol that caused me to query if God has already answered prayers.
Maybe "Misty" is the key. This Misty. Maybe it's been right in front of others eyes all along. Maybe LE was right all along, and couldn't see their very own words in reality. Maybe prayers were answered. Snodgrass himself waltzed right up to the Haleighbug Center and presented himself. It certainly wouldn't be the first time such a thing has happened concerning crime and the nature of how God answers prayers. Dunno.

 

[elle1919]

Here's a four year old who got ill despite the taste:

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/07/28/crimesider/entry5193652.shtml

TAMPA, Fla. (CBS/AP) A 4-year-old Tampa girl ate a bag of Skittles and got a little more than just a sugar high.

The Skittles were tainted with the high-powered pain reliever Oxycontin.

The girl was with her grandparents, driving home Monday from Tampa International Airport, when she became lethargic. They took her to a hospital where she was treated and later released.

Authorities say deputies found several pills mixed in with the Skittles, and say the bag had been resealed. Airport police Chief Paul Sireci says officers pulled about 30 bags of Skittles off store shelves as a precaution.


Regarding Snodgrass, his roomie isn't wearing a GPS bracelet, is he? Does he have a record for anything?

Thank you for that article. Unbelievable to say the least. And of course right around Halloween huh? Did you post this elsewhere on the WS as well Donjeta?

 

[elle1919]

I don't understand how LE took their eyes off of him so fast. All I want to know is what kind of investigation occurred? Seems to me, that LE already knew he had a pending trial for his crimes against children. Could they not have wanted it muddied up with this case since they were ready and due to go to court?

Now that LE hasn't been able to nail Misty to the way, their "Key", why aren't they looking back at these earlier tips, predators in the area of Haleigh. Especially this one. He involved himself into the case. He has family of his girlfriends/wives still not clear what Misty's mother was to Snodgrass. She and another family member called into crimestoppers, contacted cobra, as she didn't feel good about contacting LE according to her for whatever reasons. So Cobra went and recorded her on the record.

A far out thought I had this morning, lol that caused me to query if God has already answered prayers.
Maybe "Misty" is the key. This Misty. Maybe it's been right in front of others eyes all along. Maybe LE was right all along, and couldn't see their very own words in reality. Maybe prayers were answered. Snodgrass himself waltzed right up to the Haleighbug Center and presented himself. It certainly wouldn't be the first time such a thing has happened concerning crime and the nature of how God answers prayers. Dunno.

Stranger things have happened huh? Honestly I do not question this young woman calling crimestoppers or contacting Cobra. If after learning that LE hasn't made a connection to DS perhaps she felt as though her account would not be given any credence. Either way, the truth needs to be uncovered. I am beginning to realize that the taxpayers of Florida have either very hot feelings towards LE or very cold feelings towards them. Plenty of crime and far too many missing children.

 

[Mensch]

According to articles now coming out, LE did go to the home, the supposed bloody shed, where tools were observed bloody with blood splatter inside the walls and contents of the shed.

There are some questions I have about this LE investigation at Snodgrasses and how he was ruled out so quickly and easily being they foun what they did on his property, along with his past sexual criminal behavior in which it involved minor girls, and brave as the father was standing just outside the home while he performed some of these acts on his daughters.

Supposedly LE investigated, did they send these tools, blood samples to a lab to determine their origins? Seems many are questioning the quick end to Snodgrass being investigated.

I want as many persons investigated as possible. I think "rumor" in the real world of investigation is worth looking into. However, I have a real problem trying to follow a 'lead' that is printed here as fact. The bolded words here read as fact. Is there a link? If the sourse is the tapes, I still don't see cause to print tese words here as if they are fact.

This was the first post I read before hearing the tapes and my knee-jerk reaction was that there REALLY is blood spatter and bloody tools to examine. :waitasec:

 

[KOOL LOOK]

I want as many persons investigated as possible. I think "rumor" in the real world of investigation is worth looking into. However, I have a real problem trying to follow a 'lead' that is printed here as fact. The bolded words here read as fact. Is there a link? If the sourse is the tapes, I still don't see cause to print tese words here as if they are fact.

This was the first post I read before hearing the tapes and my knee-jerk reaction was that there REALLY is blood spatter and bloody tools to examine. :waitasec:

It's fact not rumor. I believe it's mentioned not only in the tape, but in at least one of those articles linked in this thread pertaining to snodgrass. I'll see if I can find what article I got it from, I did see it in print, thanks for posting. Cobra claims to have been in the shed when LE came and swabbed the blood and tools in the shed. One site is not allowed to be linked here. Still searching. The Sky TJ Hart reporter has also reported on this Snodgrass investigation and information can be found there also.

 

[elle1919]

I want as many persons investigated as possible. I think "rumor" in the real world of investigation is worth looking into. However, I have a real problem trying to follow a 'lead' that is printed here as fact. The bolded words here read as fact. Is there a link? If the sourse is the tapes, I still don't see cause to print tese words here as if they are fact.

This was the first post I read before hearing the tapes and my knee-jerk reaction was that there REALLY is blood spatter and bloody tools to examine. :waitasec:

Hi there. There truly was blood spatter on the walls and other surfaces in the shed. LE did take swabs to send off for testing. Initially it was said that the spatter was consistent with an animal being killed and skinned(or slaughtered, something like that) There is an upcoming trial for DS and I think that is the reason why results of the testing haven't been released. It is fact that DS was arrested and is now behind bars awaiting trial for horrible crimes against children. Any investigator would be remiss not to swab and test materials with a blood spatter type appearance in a place that a known accused sex offender has been seen. JMO

 

[Mensch]

It's fact not rumor. I believe it's mentioned not only in the tape, but in at least one of those articles linked in this thread pertaining to snodgrass. I'll see if I can find what article I got it from, I did see it in print, thanks for posting. Cobra claims to have been in the shed when LE came and swabbed the blood and tools in the shed. One site is not allowed to be linked here. Still searching. The Sky TJ Hart reporter has also reported on this Snodgrass investigation and information can be found there also.

Thanks Kool Look. I am very interested in reading an article claiming LE swabbed blood samples from any location regarding this case. After listening to the tapes, I found myself wishing I had enough money to send all the folks in pc for serious psyc/drug therapy. As for Cobra, I won't comment - I like posting privleges here!
So, that leaves me to comment on the other person mentioned in this thread and that is ds. So what if his ankle bracelet didn't alert at a certain point? It is not a stretch to go on the asumption he had a friend go play 'fetch' for him. Looking forward to reading he articles. Again...thanks.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

I have searched Art Harris site and sky news, and the search engines for these sites are non existant for Art's and skys doesn't do well for me. I looked all day yesterday for the cobra tapes there and couldn't find them. Then someone from here found them and posted part 1 that I couldn't locate.

I think LE called the monitoring company, asked Snodgrass did he do it, walked the property and entered inside the shed, swabbed blood, and left. I don't think anything further has transpired in the snodgrass investigation, at least LE has reported so. There is a trial coming up, so that may be why they are hesitant to speak.

However Misty Saunders and Cobra are eyewitnesses to the inside of the shed and have made these claims to other media and on tape. Cobra asked for a more detailed investigation into Snodgrass, why did he do this since he was there and saw what went on?

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Thanks Kool Look. I am very interested in reading an article claiming LE swabbed blood samples from any location regarding this case. After listening to the tapes, I found myself wishing I had enough money to send all the folks in pc for serious psyc/drug therapy. As for Cobra, I won't comment - I like posting privleges here!
So, that leaves me to comment on the other person mentioned in this thread and that is ds. So what if his ankle bracelet didn't alert at a certain point? It is not a stretch to go on the asumption he had a friend go play 'fetch' for him. Looking forward to reading he articles. Again...thanks.

I agree with this entire post. Some things are out there, and we have yet to have validity on them. We have to lean and trust in some eyewitness accounts along the way as we look in to this case. Taking it for what good it might offer or not.

Snodgrass goes to Haleigh's Center, he's a brazen child lurer and demon soul who did bad things to kids and there parent was outside the door waiting on them. He's got nerve I tell ya. His interest in Haleigh's case himself makes me look at him.