CocoaMom's Church Theory

[txmama]

Wow. This is awesome! Thank you so much for doing that.

 

[LI_Mom]

'She's close by.... I feel like she's safe.'


A Church playground would be safe. (Well, if the teachers bothered to WATCH the kids)

I wonder if LE heard from any of her friends that she was starting to look at pre-schools for Caylee.... it was almost that time.

Lots of first time mothers like to give their child of how much fun school will be when they go & bring them to see other children at their school.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Dumb question alert......why does Hawks Hollow mean something?

This place fits almost ALL the descriptions people's dreams and psychics saw.

Something about owls and hawks was in many of their comments.

 

[TakeNote]

Oh, so do I.............I am running into a real problem with the airline, but I am not giving up. I have talked to 3 "supervisors" so far, and will keep moving up if need be. I considered going now to at least check that stage thing, but if we can't get the flights changed we would not have time to get our flights. My stomach is doing flops all over the place and I am just dying to get the dogs over there.

FINGERS crossed you can go!

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Can someone help me also, for some reason I can longer view pictures.

Thank you.

Click on this:

http://s406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/

 

[PoppyH]

The story:
So I drive over there. I hope to see LP whom I talked to and/or Murt whom I talked to. Figured if they weren't there I would just drive through and leave. Got there and it looks exactly as Google Earth and Google Maps show. Only lots of cars! I couldn't believe the cars! Drove towards the back and noted how I went over the Econ with big ravines on each side of the cross-over.

Lots of people, lots of kids in uniforms - OH! It's a church school - little kids and big kids - sign on a bldg - "High School"..I go further back. Soccer field on right/North. Parking right by playground. Little kids lined up to go out to play. I open car door - no need for fear - tons of people around. No one notices me. I toss car keys on seat while I set phone camera. Little boy about 5 runs up, puts hand on my leg and says "HI, I'm XXXX"!! I'm still in my car he is practically in my lap! I'm shocked. Teacher with line of kids doesn't even notice - YIKES! I told him to go back to class and he shouldn't talk to strangers! I didn't want to scare him but figured this was probably best! Stand up, shut door - OH CRAP - keys still on seat!!!!

Call AAA it will be an hour - Took pics of soccer field, playground and looked for how to get to pond since playground is fenced and locked. Saw to the right the way back - no big deal, couple more pics and walked that way.

Stopped dead in my tracks when I saw the Hawk's Hollow sign. Trying to process this - take photo. Little GIRL (beautiful) runs up and slips her hand into mine. I flip again! Adults everywhere - no one notices. I told her that even though some people look really nice, you still shouldn't talk to anyone that you don't know their name. She looked scared and ran back and climbed in teacher lap. Teacher looks at me, I wave, she waves back. YEESH!

I walk over and peek in Hawk's Hollow - note and take pics of trucks and stuff to right and path to retention pond to left. Hawk's Hollow looks so cool! Obvious no one has been in here in a long time. I enter. Clearing, rotted stumps in front of the "stage" that were probably benches a long time ago. I look around. No one knows I'm here, no one ever would. It's quiet and completely visually blocked from everywhere! Woods all around, all kinds of stuff in woods - take more pics and practically run to the stage. get up on it, peer through the wood cracks - lots of stuff under there. Back side, see a fox skull - yep this place has never been searched! I could climb right under the stage - no I do not, but I could. Too scared of snakes and such to take more than a peek but I am VERY VERY intrigued!! I get the strangest feeling - can't describe. Like I'm right under everyone's nose and they don't even know it!

No way to pond from here but I can see it behind the stage through the bushes. Fence...I go out and down path to pond, take more pics. Really looks like a bench down there on the left but not sure and not going in further. Looks mowed but not really "cared for". As I walk back by the backside of the playground three more kids - 2 girls and a boy come over to the fence individually and start chatting it up with me. I am deeply disturbed at the lack of supervision here even with 2 teachers on the other side of playground. They are chatting with each other and not watching the kids.

Go back to car and look for AAA. Nope, no sign. Starts to rain - what next? I run to a bathroom by the playground - nice and clean and air conditioned...stops raining. I walk to Econ cross-over. Maintenance guy digging by power pole (yeah that's smart!) I say Hi, he nods. I take pics of the ravine from both sides. Two men and a woman pass me individually as I take pictures - say nothing.. here comes AAA....5 mins later I am leaving.

Thoroughly disgusted with the supervision of these beautiful children, sopping wet and even more convinced that this is where she hung out. After 5PM (according to sign that playground closes at 5) , no kids, no school all vacant back there. I could LIVE in that Hawk's Hollow and no one would ever know! Bathroom nearby - heck she could just walk up to the playground and let Caylee play with the other kids and no one would say a word!

Hubby going to file for divorce if I don't get food in the house so I dash to grocery store - marathon dash, doing good until I ran into the Clampet reunion in the middle of the bread aisle! Gotta have the bread - living on sandwiches these days! Slowest cashier in the South and "Walter" the 94 year old bag boy wasn't helping! I'm practically bouncing up and down biting tongue so I don't scream HURRY UP, WSers are waiting!!!

I run outside - pouring rain again!! Rush home, power clean, homemade pizza for dinner, do dishes, let out dogs (they don't even know who I am anymore), here I am...

any questions?

Yes, did you eat Wheaties for breakfast?? I got tired just reading what all you did!:blowkiss:

 

[indymom77]

Turbothink...I work for an airline, if there is anything I can do to help get you there Im willing to try.

 

[mamadofthree]

This place fits almost ALL the descriptions people's dreams and psychics saw.

Something about owls and hawks was in many of their comments.

You are right. I spent a lot of time reading the dream/visions thread. I posted the link to this thread over there to see if anyone has perspective on the pictures and area. I am not a psychic or anything but there were several people giving descriptions of the areas displayed in these pictures. Whether we believe in psychics or not, all of this is too coincindental to not mean anything... Great reasearch/sleuthing/brainstorming work has been done here.

 

[LiveLoveLaughLiza]

This place fits almost ALL the descriptions people's dreams and psychics saw.

Something about owls and hawks was in many of their comments.

**Off to that thread I go** Thank you Turbo, I have some catching up to do. Continuing to wish you luck with the airlines.

 

[LiveLoveLaughLiza]

Fantastic description to go with the pictures. You left out no detail. Good job and thank you, you ROCK! :blowkiss:

Oh, and the homemade pizza sounds yummy....

 

[wedavis]

I'm not going to be able to look for the black flip flop with a brown flower on it for at least another 1 hr. It would be great if someone could start that search. IF (I'm not convinved) the Anthony's read here and if by some long shot it is hers we need to get someone out there ASAP before something happens to it.

 

[indymom77]

Yes, someone needs to get out there before the A's mess something else up.

 

[justbetweenus]

I really enjoyed your pics, along with your theory cocomom. Very interesting! I hope you can make it there Turbo.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

I'm not going to be able to look for the black flip flop with a brown flower on it for at least another 1 hr. It would be great if someone could start that search. IF (I'm not convinved) the Anthony's read here and if by some long shot it is hers we need to get someone out there ASAP before something happens to it.

If you can go, call the sheriff's department once you find it and ask them to send someone to pick up what you believe might be evidence. All the patrol officers have those with them.

I don't know if this is safe without a LE officer with you, but be sure and take an evidence bag. Pick it up with a stick or use gloves. If you don't have evidence bags use a NEW ziplock bag, close it then seal it with a piece of tape. Have someone take pictures through out the method used in securing it.

Be aware you and your witness will be called into court to verify the method of collection.

 

[LI_Mom]

Casey is a flip-flop kinda gal....

http://www.myyearbook.com/?mysession=cmVnaXN0cmF0aW9uX3Byb2ZpbGUmdXNlcmlkPTExMzY5MzY=



Still looking for a pic or reference of a missing flip-flop

 

[JMCDAD]

The story:
So I drive over there. I hope to see LP whom I talked to and/or Murt whom I talked to. Figured if they weren't there I would just drive through and leave. Got there and it looks exactly as Google Earth and Google Maps show. Only lots of cars! I couldn't believe the cars! Drove towards the back and noted how I went over the Econ with big ravines on each side of the cross-over.

Lots of people, lots of kids in uniforms - OH! It's a church school - little kids and big kids - sign on a bldg - "High School"..I go further back. Soccer field on right/North. Parking right by playground. Little kids lined up to go out to play. I open car door - no need for fear - tons of people around. No one notices me. I toss car keys on seat while I set phone camera. Little boy about 5 runs up, puts hand on my leg and says "HI, I'm XXXX"!! I'm still in my car he is practically in my lap! I'm shocked. Teacher with line of kids doesn't even notice - YIKES! I told him to go back to class and he shouldn't talk to strangers! I didn't want to scare him but figured this was probably best! Stand up, shut door - OH CRAP - keys still on seat!!!!

Call AAA it will be an hour - Took pics of soccer field, playground and looked for how to get to pond since playground is fenced and locked. Saw to the right the way back - no big deal, couple more pics and walked that way.

Stopped dead in my tracks when I saw the Hawk's Hollow sign. Trying to process this - take photo. Little GIRL (beautiful) runs up and slips her hand into mine. I flip again! Adults everywhere - no one notices. I told her that even though some people look really nice, you still shouldn't talk to anyone that you don't know their name. She looked scared and ran back and climbed in teacher lap. Teacher looks at me, I wave, she waves back. YEESH!

I walk over and peek in Hawk's Hollow - note and take pics of trucks and stuff to right and path to retention pond to left. Hawk's Hollow looks so cool! Obvious no one has been in here in a long time. I enter. Clearing, rotted stumps in front of the "stage" that were probably benches a long time ago. I look around. No one knows I'm here, no one ever would. It's quiet and completely visually blocked from everywhere! Woods all around, all kinds of stuff in woods - take more pics and practically run to the stage. get up on it, peer through the wood cracks - lots of stuff under there. Back side, see a fox skull - yep this place has never been searched! I could climb right under the stage - no I do not, but I could. Too scared of snakes and such to take more than a peek but I am VERY VERY intrigued!! I get the strangest feeling - can't describe. Like I'm right under everyone's nose and they don't even know it!

No way to pond from here but I can see it behind the stage through the bushes. Fence...I go out and down path to pond, take more pics. Really looks like a bench down there on the left but not sure and not going in further. Looks mowed but not really "cared for". As I walk back by the backside of the playground three more kids - 2 girls and a boy come over to the fence individually and start chatting it up with me. I am deeply disturbed at the lack of supervision here even with 2 teachers on the other side of playground. They are chatting with each other and not watching the kids.

Go back to car and look for AAA. Nope, no sign. Starts to rain - what next? I run to a bathroom by the playground - nice and clean and air conditioned...stops raining. I walk to Econ cross-over. Maintenance guy digging by power pole (yeah that's smart!) I say Hi, he nods. I take pics of the ravine from both sides. Two men and a woman pass me individually as I take pictures - say nothing.. here comes AAA....5 mins later I am leaving.

Thoroughly disgusted with the supervision of these beautiful children, sopping wet and even more convinced that this is where she hung out. After 5PM (according to sign that playground closes at 5) , no kids, no school all vacant back there. I could LIVE in that Hawk's Hollow and no one would ever know! Bathroom nearby - heck she could just walk up to the playground and let Caylee play with the other kids and no one would say a word!

Hubby going to file for divorce if I don't get food in the house so I dash to grocery store - marathon dash, doing good until I ran into the Clampet reunion in the middle of the bread aisle! Gotta have the bread - living on sandwiches these days! Slowest cashier in the South and "Walter" the 94 year old bag boy wasn't helping! I'm practically bouncing up and down biting tongue so I don't scream HURRY UP, WSers are waiting!!!

I run outside - pouring rain again!! Rush home, power clean, homemade pizza for dinner, do dishes, let out dogs (they don't even know who I am anymore), here I am...

any questions?

Thank you for doing all this
I too think you may have something here
not to get all weird and all but do you think maybe the children coming up to you like that was like a sign of Caylee
I know it sounds silly but for some reason thats what I thought of

 

[gibby207]

This place fits almost ALL the descriptions people's dreams and psychics saw.

Something about owls and hawks was in many of their comments.

Uh......I started a thread about an owl in my yard on Monday and the significance of it. I received many interesting comments and was told to look at that thread. It was an eye opener to say the least. That thread was moved tho...

Good luck everyone!

 

[LI_Mom]

If you can go, call the sheriff's department once you find it and ask them to send someone to pick up what you believe might be evidence. All the patrol officers have those with them.

I don't know if this is safe without a LE officer with you, but be sure and take an evidence bag. Pick it up with a stick or use gloves. If you don't have evidence bags use a NEW ziplock bag, close it then seal it with a piece of tape. Have someone take pictures through out the method used in securing it.

Be aware you and your witness will be called into court to verify the method of collection.

I'd LOVE to see someone with the defense tamper with potential evidence when there is a PICTURE to prove it was there.

CocoaMom even has AAA to back her up on the DATE & TIME she was there. She was brilliant to lock her keys in the car, wasn't she? lol

 

[LI_Mom]

Thank you for doing all this
I too think you may have something here
not to get all weird and all but do you think maybe the children coming up to you like that was like a sign of Caylee
I know it sounds silly but for some reason thats what I thought of

Not silly. It's such a sweet & comforting thought.

 

[OneLostGrl]

thanks so much for the pictures, you have gone above and beyond and you friggin' rock!!!