CocoaMom's Church Theory

[mom4321]

I called three times and got Administrative Assitants. Left messages with two different ones (nothing specific, just to please call me at this number). Third time was told all day meeting of all Administrators and tomorrow would call me...

did you ask to speak to the pastor? Who are thse administrators?
My Dad is a Pastor and I think if you talked to him directly youd get furthur
but who knows.

 

[Dolce171]

Forgive me ... but this is just my thought ...

KC's final dirty deed was done before she was in TonE's jeep. She disposed of Caylee (God that hurts to type) and then she disposed of her vehicle on 6/27.

KC does not like to be alone. This is the only reason why I believe that she would not go back to TonE's apartment. He was on travel and she did not want to be there by herself.

Perhaps .. her unusual behavior this evening in question was somewhere along the lines of her revisiting the spot where she dumped Caylee. We all know that this type of behavior is quite common.

Also, if she was in TonE's jeep ... and had the remains with her .. there would have been some sort of evidence of decomp. Especially after so many days since Caylee's estimated time of death. NO car wash would have covered that!

....please know this is just my humbled opinion.

 

[Straitfan]

Dolce171, agree with you. She left her car so called out of gas w/her purse etc for a reason..Plan that didnt end up working for her. I don't recall her having/driving Tone's car that much and he didn't leave it with her when he went out of town at the end of June.

 

[It's Not the Nanny]

Ok... I see now why they are so heavily searching in that part of BP.

David - What is your theory then?? Did she hide the body in the park then come back that night to dispose of it in the river/water/Bella Vida Blvd area?. She had to be doing something during those hours in the park. That's just too creepy to be there alone all night. She could have easily spent the night with any one of her friends.


Maybe this has been discussed at length previously but, is BP known for prostitution?? Maybe she was "working" those areas that night?

Then again, the park was locked so I guess that doesn't work.

Also - The "pings"....are those ACTUAL calls and texts made during those hours?? Or does your phone just ping just because it is on?? (I guess I'm old but how does one stay up all night calling and texting???) Was she seriously sitting in a park all night calling and texting friends...maybe to give herself an alibi.

 

[LI_Mom]

Also - The "pings"....are those ACTUAL calls and texts made during those hours?? Or does your phone just ping just because it is on?? (I guess I'm old but how does one stay up all night calling and texting???) Was she seriously sitting in a park all night calling and texting friends...maybe to give herself an alibi.

A cell phone will automatically 'ping' every couple of minutes to establish contact with the closest tower.

You don't have to be using the phone.

 

[concentric]

Put this on the LP divers thread:

Did homeless people get meal packs at that church. Maybe one of them saw Casey?

 

[IrishSweetOne]

I called three times and got Administrative Assitants. Left messages with two different ones (nothing specific, just to please call me at this number). Third time was told all day meeting of all Administrators and tomorrow would call me...

Cocoamom maybe if you tell them the search will take place during Thanksgiving Vacation while the kids aren't present they may be more receptive )

 

[LI_Mom]

Dolce171, agree with you. She left her car so called out of gas w/her purse etc for a reason..Plan that didnt end up working for her. I don't recall her having/driving Tone's car that much and he didn't leave it with her when he went out of town at the end of June.

I wonder if Casey always carried a purse.... you don't need one when you're hanging out at friend's place or at a park or at a nightclub.... seems she might leave it in her car instead of having to carry it when she's kicking back.

IF she just took it with her when she needed her license with her (driving or writing bad checks), it's possible she simply FORGOT to grab it when she ditched the car.

I wonder what she usually kept in her purse & what was inside when LE found it.

I never had the feeling there had to be any 'reason' she left the purse behind.

 

[TexasLil]

A cell phone will automatically 'ping' every couple of minutes to establish contact with the closest tower.

You don't have to be using the phone.

Note:

Phone companies only save these "locator" pings for about 24 hours.

 

[gingerdog]

Okay, what if she had Caylee in a suitcase or cargo bag on top of TL's jeep and took the body to this location to dispose of it? I wonder if there is a luggage rack? Any decomp on the outside of the jeep could have been washed off at the car wash. But, had she gotten it on her clothing, etc. and then got back into the jeep I'm guessing that would remain and would have been detected, so I can't explain that part. Unless she changed her clothes before getting back in?

 

[LI_Mom]

Cocoamom maybe if you tell them the search will take place during Thanksgiving Vacation while the kids aren't present they may be more receptive )

I wonder if driving over & speaking face to face with somebody at a 'front desk' might be more productive.... if they see you're not some crackpot they might not find it so easy to 'avoid' you.

You might want to print out your theory in the event someone in charge cannot see you right away so they can read an accurate account of your request & not rely on a receptionist's short interpretation of things.

 

[LI_Mom]

Note:

Phone companies only save these "locator" pings for about 24 hours.

Then we wouldn't have such an extensive record of the pings.

 

[LI_Mom]

Okay, what if she had Caylee in a suitcase or cargo bag on top of TL's jeep and took the body to this location to dispose of it? I wonder if there is a luggage rack? Any decomp on the outside of the jeep could have been washed off at the car wash. But, had she gotten it on her clothing, etc. and then got back into the jeep I'm guessing that would remain and would have been detected, so I can't explain that part. Unless she changed her clothes before getting back in?

That would seem to be very high risk.... driving with a dead body on the top of your car.... imagine if it fell off or you got stopped & cops asked what's the smell on top of your car?

What if it slipped when she's trying to get it up or down.... too much hard work for our lazy-azz, imo.

 

[secretagent]

"Psychics" also mentioned Leopards and peeing German Sheppards

....avoice of reason! LMFAO!

 

[Soulscape]

That would seem to be very high risk.... driving with a dead body on the top of your car.... imagine if it fell off or you got stopped & cops asked what's the smell on top of your car?

What if it slipped when she's trying to get it up or down.... too much hard work for our lazy-azz, imo.

I agree. There was a date, 6/24 or 6/27, when KC texted to Amy something to the effect "I got rid of the smell (in the car)." It has been theorized that she "disposed" of the body for good, i.e., the last time, just prior to sending this text message.

David 918, have you analyzed lapses of cell phone activity just prior to this "I got rid of the smell" text?

Maybe what happened July 1st, 12:00 - 2:00 am at BP was simply KC revisiting the scene of the crime one last time...

Thanks,
Soulscape

 

[TexasLil]

Then we wouldn't have such an extensive record of the pings.

Exactly... we only have the pings that were recorded when a call or text was sent or received.

IF LE had those locator pings they would be able to pinpoint Casey's whereabouts every three minutes of every day the phone was on. Unfortunately not possible and contributes to the difficulty of searching for Caylee.

 

[LI_Mom]

Exactly... we only have the pings that were recorded when a call or text was sent or received.

IF LE had those locator pings they would be able to pinpoint Casey's whereabouts every three minutes of every day the phone was on. Unfortunately not possible and contributes to the difficulty of searching for Caylee.

Thanks for clarifying.

 

[kiki the parrot]

I agree. There was a date, 6/24 or 6/27, when KC texted to Amy something to the effect "I got rid of the smell (in the car)." It has been theorized that she "disposed" of the body for good, i.e., the last time, just prior to sending this text message.

David 918, have you analyzed lapses of cell phone activity just prior to this "I got rid of the smell" text?

Maybe what happened July 1st, 12:00 - 2:00 am at BP was simply KC revisiting the scene of the crime one last time...

ITA This text to AH on 6/27 is just prior to abandonment of car. At 11:34 KC texts Amy, "There was definitely part of a dead animal plastered to the frame of my car." She had just left area of her house and had pinged on tower not pinged unusually on tower located just N of airport. It's same Friday she ran out of gas. Amscot mgr. said KC's car was parked there at 7am. KC is 10 miles away at 11:30 for about 40 minutes either in car maybe (or not sure how she gets there if car was at Amscot by 7am). At 11:45 KC texts TL (probably to let him know she ran out of gas, consistent w his statement, and she stays near TL until she pings near Fusian later that night). The '2.6 Days' really threw a wrench in earlier theory though since prior to that, like you I'd always felt certain that her text, and abandoning of car were best indicators of when KC disposed of remains. But how can this be reconciled w 2.6 days? So am forced to consider other possibilities. I apologize I know this is all OT, but wracking my poor little brain! JMO

 

[LI_Mom]

There's an interesting piece about the pings here:

http://www.local6.com/news/17979179/detail.html


The first "dead zone" was June 17 from 5:23 p.m. to 8:23 p.m. Anthony's phone pinged a tower close to her boyfriend's apartment near the University of Central Florida and then twice pinged a tower near Blanchard Park before going silent. The park was searched but nothing was found. In the time it took Anthony's phone to ping another tower -- three hours later -- she could have traveled as far away as Palm Bay or Ormond Beach and returned to Orange County.



This stood out for me, because I remembered the name Ormond Beach when I was googling about possible "Bella Vita" connections.


Do we know if Casey did any hunting for an apt. or condo.... could she have once considered anything near "Bella Vita Way" in Ormond Beach?

Argghhh... I wish LE could just torture the truth out of this b1tch.

 

[sariebell]

I have always thought she did the dump in the Orlando area. This quote about a 3 hour "dead zone" in her pings, does get me thinking. Especially the mention of Ormond Beach. My grandparents lived there when I was a child. Tomoka State Park is an alligator ridden swamp on the Inter Coastal or Halifax River. Florida is so full of swampy, gator places to dump dead bodies. It makes me feel certain they will never find her. I begin to think searching at BP and this church are the best bets for searching at all. Otherwise, it's just overwhelming!