Connecticut school district on lockdown after shooting report at a Newtown elemen #10

[human]

Yes, it's my understanding that is why there is a window in the door or a window by the door in classrooms. The idea behind it was to ensure safety of children so that someone else could see in and know what was going on inside the classroom.

After Columbine I covered my window with the colored roll paper. It certainly would stop any bullets. Not, but I did not want a shooter looking in my window.

Sexual abuse issues are huge for teachers. Where I live, if you are accused, you are immediately removed from your job until proven innocent.

This happened to a teacher that was falsely accused, not by a student, but in another situation. She was exonerated, but life was made so miserable for her that she quit her job.

Being a teacher is filled with so many issues.

 

[Isabelle]

Thursday will be a difficult day filled with many mixed emotions for all involved.....teachers, students and parents.

I hope their first day goes well.

I cannot imagine!

 

[manzana]

I agree, the door locking and abuse could lead to other issues. In my classroom there is more than one adult in the room at all times. I would never do this on a daily basis if I was the only adult in the room, for my protection and the students in regards to abuse.

Just getting in here a little late and Flipflop I agree with the window covering, here is what one teacher I know does, she has hers like a shade that can be rolled down in an emergency, now if a teacher is always having hers down that would raise red flags.

 

[Xavier]

Despite this story being incredibly sad, horrific, the last moments of special needs aide Ms Murphy and her buddy Dylan Hockley, who was autistic, died together with her holding her arms around him

Staring down the barrel of a rifle, Anne Marie Murphy pulled Dylan Hockley close to her, trying to shield him from the hail of bullets that would kill them both.

Dylan, 6, had special needs, his family said Monday. And Murphy was his "amazing" aide, they said. He loved her, pointing happily to her photo on the Hockley's refrigerator every day.


http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Dylan-Hockley-died-in-Anne-Marie-Murphy-s-arms-4122828.php

 

[bourne]

Despite this story being incredibly sad, horrific, the last moments of special needs aide Ms Murphy and her buddy Dylan Hockley, who was autistic, died together with her holding her arms around him

Staring down the barrel of a rifle, Anne Marie Murphy pulled Dylan Hockley close to her, trying to shield him from the hail of bullets that would kill them both.

Dylan, 6, had special needs, his family said Monday. And Murphy was his "amazing" aide, they said. He loved her, pointing happily to her photo on the Hockley's refrigerator every day.


http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Dylan-Hockley-died-in-Anne-Marie-Murphy-s-arms-4122828.php

Thanks for sharing this. Very heartfelt.

The principal, teachers and other staff who fought so hard to protect the students are true heroes. I'm so glad the lawyer and the family of the 6-y.o. girl who were suing the school and state decided to drop the case. The school could not have reasonably forseen this tragedy.

 

[bourne]

Just getting in here a little late and Flipflop I agree with the window covering, here is what one teacher I know does, she has hers like a shade that can be rolled down in an emergency, now if a teacher is always having hers down that would raise red flags.

Agree, there's no reason for windows of a classroom to be completely covered every single day. <modsnip>

 

[Ricki]

Happy New Year

Just in case this hasn't been posted.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...=maing-grid7|maing5|dl8|sec3_lnk2&pLid=251497

Newtown Shooting Lawsuit: $100M Claim Against Connecticut In School Shooting Is Dropped

New Haven, Connecticut-based attorney Irving Pinsky said he dropped the claim because he was evaluating new evidence, according to a report published online at CTPost.com.

Pinsky said he did not rule out further legal action, the report said. He did not respond immediately to Reuters requests to comment on the report.


"The Office of the Claims Commissioner is not the appropriate venue for that important and complex discussion," Jepsen said in his statement.

"The Office of the Claims Commissioner is not the appropriate venue for that important and complex discussion," Jepsen said in his statement.

"Although the investigation is still under way, we are aware of no facts or legal theory under which the state of Connecticut should be liable for causing the harms inflicted at Sandy Hook Elementary School," he said.

 

[bourne]

After Columbine I covered my window with the colored roll paper. It certainly would stop any bullets. Not, but I did not want a shooter looking in my window.

Sexual abuse issues are huge for teachers. Where I live, if you are accused, you are immediately removed from your job until proven innocent.

This happened to a teacher that was falsely accused, not by a student, but in another situation. She was exonerated, but life was made so miserable for her that she quit her job.

Being a teacher is filled with so many issues.

This reminds me of Robert Frost's "Mending Wall".

"He only says, "Good fences make good neighbors."
Spring is the mischief in me, and I wonder
If I could put a notion in his head:
"Why do they make good neighbors? Isn't it
Where there are cows? But here there are no cows.
Before I built a wall I'd ask to know
What I was walling in or walling out,
And to whom I was like to give offence.
Something there is that doesn't love a wall..."

One can say these covered windows are like walls. Do these covered windows in classrooms to prevent intruders from looking in and doing harm, or do they prevent rescuers from seeing the crimes within? Do they keep invaders out, or do they trap the children and teachers in?

 

[Xavier]

After Columbine I covered my window with the colored roll paper. It certainly would stop any bullets. Not, but I did not want a shooter looking in my window.

Sexual abuse issues are huge for teachers. Where I live, if you are accused, you are immediately removed from your job until proven innocent.

This happened to a teacher that was falsely accused, not by a student, but in another situation. She was exonerated, but life was made so miserable for her that she quit her job.

Being a teacher is filled with so many issues.

I for one have always appreciated my teachers an dmy educational experiences...my Mom taught English, Latin as a volunteer teacher's aide

You have my total appreciation and same goes for all teachers

 

[Xavier]

This little story still makes me wonder if any of NL's friends or neighbors ever brought up to her it might be a bad idea to have her guns stored in her home with a son with massive anti social behavior ...I don't want to come off a certain way, since 20/20 hindsight is always crystal clear...but you gotta wonder

" Nancy Lanza was a gun collector and recently showed off a newly bought rifle to fellow Newtown resident Dan Holmes, who owns a landscaping business in the town.

Besides the three weapons found at the school, Adam Lanza also had access to at least three more guns, a law enforcement source said. Investigators recovered a .45-caliber Henry Repeating Rifle, a .22-caliber Marlin Rifle and a .30-caliber Enfield Rifle, though it's unclear where they were found, the source said. "

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/15/us/connecticut-school-shooting/index.html

 

[Xavier]

I agree, the door locking and abuse could lead to other issues. In my classroom there is more than one adult in the room at all times. I would never do this on a daily basis if I was the only adult in the room, for my protection and the students in regards to abuse.

FLIP, speaking on the Sandy Hook alarm system, it sounds like they had a standard 930am lock system...and AL shows up right around this time, goes to show me he knew exactly what he was doing by showing up at the school almost exactly on time...

"" According to Vance, Lanza forced his way into the school though he wouldn't say how or whether Lanza used weapons to do it.

Authorities said it's also not clear whether Lanza entered before or after 9:30 a.m., the time each day when the school would lock its doors as part of a security system introduced this year. Authorities say the first emergency call about the shooting came in at "approximately" 9:30 a.m. Friday. ""

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/15/us/connecticut-school-shooting/index.html

 

[Xavier]

We have 3 different levels of lockdowns as well.

We do not practice these drills because our school is rampant with violence, as someone stated above. Our school is not violent. We practice these drills to protect our kids. Our is a small school where everyone knows everyone. But as we know, evil can lurk anywhere. I don't think we will ever have a real full lockdown, but you never know. Im sure the staff at Sandy Hook thought the same, but are thankful the times that they did practice their lockdowns.

I thought this article was interesting relative to our discussion on safety measures post Columbine:

After the Columbine shooting, districts renovating and building schools studied what they could do to make them safer, architect Irene Nigaglioni said, and the changes are clear on some campuses.

They began to build single, prominent entryways, and reduced landscaping that provided a place to hide, Nigaglioni said. They shifted restrooms away from entryways and moved major mechanical and electrical systems so they couldn't be shut down or vandalized from the outside.

They put simpler keyless entry systems on doors to make it less tempting to prop them open. They planned elaborate announcement systems that let police address a shooter without speaking to every classroom.

Year by year, they're trying to do what they can with the money they have," said Nigaglioni, chairwoman of the board for the Council of Educational Facility Planners International. "Anything that is going to make it harder to get through a building."

But in recent years, schools also came to value natural light and open spaces that allow classes to collaborate. Walls once made of brick are now made of glass. They fold up and disappear, if they're there at all. It's better for learning but tougher for security, Nigaglioni said.

"It's becoming a challenge," the Dallas-based architect said. "We're breaking down the school into more small learning communities, the school within a school. You might not have a wall, so securing your hallway or pod is how you do it."


http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/15/us/connecticut-school-safety/index.html

 

[Xavier]

Yes, it's my understanding that is why there is a window in the door or a window by the door in classrooms. The idea behind it was to ensure safety of children so that someone else could see in and know what was going on inside the classroom.

Thanks for your post...here's an article/comments from a school admin on safety measures and his experience dealing with a shooting at his school years ago:

There is not a single safety measure that anyone could have put in place at Sandy Hook that would have stopped what happened," said Bill Bond, the school safety specialist for the National Association of Secondary School Principals. "When you allow absolutely insane people to arm themselves like they're going to war, they go to war."

He calls metal detectors useless. Buzzer systems are just locked doors. Lockdown plans are important to keep people safe, but they don't keep evil out.

"In a school, your only real protection is kids trusting you with information," Bond said. "If they don't trust you with information and someone is planning to do something, it's a matter of how many will be killed before you kill him."

When it comes to shootings, Bond calls himself a cynic. Over the course of 12 seconds in 1997, one of his students shot and killed three classmates, wounded five more, then put the gun in Bond's hand.

Bond was principal at Heath High School in West Paducah, Kentucky, then. The shooter was 14. Michael Carneal was later sentenced to life in prison

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/15/us/connecticut-school-safety/index.html

 

[liljim]

why would the fact that he got to the school right around the time the doors locked show methodical planning? doesnt it show poor planning?

i believe it is still being said that he said shot his way thru the glass of the security door because it was locked already when he got there. doesnt that imply failed planning?

 

[michmi]

Happy New Year

Just in case this hasn't been posted.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...=maing-grid7|maing5|dl8|sec3_lnk2&pLid=251497

Newtown Shooting Lawsuit: $100M Claim Against Connecticut In School Shooting Is Dropped

New Haven, Connecticut-based attorney Irving Pinsky said he dropped the claim because he was evaluating new evidence, according to a report published online at CTPost.com.

Probably realized how futile that would be and I'm sure he's waiting to see how deep the pockets of the Lanza estate are.

 

[Xavier]

The Bushmaster A 15 assault rifle is a symbol of death and destruction and will always be linked to Sandy Hook

Now I read sales of the Bushmaster and magazines are booming all arounbd the USA...here's the link bushmaster guns surge sales - Google Search


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[Mrs G Norris]

Happy New Year

Just in case this hasn't been posted.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...=maing-grid7|maing5|dl8|sec3_lnk2&pLid=251497

Newtown Shooting Lawsuit: $100M Claim Against Connecticut In School Shooting Is Dropped

New Haven, Connecticut-based attorney Irving Pinsky said he dropped the claim because he was evaluating new evidence, according to a report published online at CTPost.com.

Pinsky said he did not rule out further legal action, the report said. He did not respond immediately to Reuters requests to comment on the report.


"The Office of the Claims Commissioner is not the appropriate venue for that important and complex discussion," Jepsen said in his statement.

"The Office of the Claims Commissioner is not the appropriate venue for that important and complex discussion," Jepsen said in his statement.

"Although the investigation is still under way, we are aware of no facts or legal theory under which the state of Connecticut should be liable for causing the harms inflicted at Sandy Hook Elementary School," he said.

In other words he / his clients got nailed by their peers for taking this action and realised they wouldn't be going out to any dinner parties in Newtown ever again if they continued down this road.

 

[flipflop]

There is a thread for gun control....

 

[mister happy]

There is a thread for gun control....

Well, even the gun control thread is on lock-down.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Gun control thread click here