Connecticut school district on lockdown after shooting report at a Newtown elemen #5

[cluciano63]

We don't know that his father did not try to have contact with AL.
My (mentally ill) brother did not communicate with any family members, other than one brother, my mom, and myself.(when I was there.) My dad was in a nursing home the last two years of his life and finally, my brother went to visit in the middle of the night, when he was dying, so he could avoid talking to anyone else. But he never would talk to my dad on the phone, or come downstairs when my dad was home for a few hours on special occasions. And he loved my dad, he just couldn't do it.

 

[MyBelle]

How Ryan Lanza Reacted When TV Networks Incorrectly Named Him The Sandy Hook Shooter

Published : 46 min 41 sec ago

Friday morning began like any other work day for Ryan Lanza.

The 24-year-old Hoboken resident commuted into Ernst & Young's Times Square office. He has reportedly been a senior tax employee there for the past few years.

While at his desk, Lanza looked up at the TV and saw a report that he had allegedly killed 20 or more people at Sandy Hook elementary school.

Of course, this wasn't true.

His mother was also pronounced dead.

A co-worker recounted what happened next to MailOnline:

"Lanza quickly told his boss: 'I need to go,'" The Daily Mail reports. "He then walked out of his Times Square office. Thirty minutes later, New York Police stormed the office."

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Read more: http://www.newshour24.com/2012/12/1...orrectly-Named-Him-The-Sandy-Hook-Shooter.htm

Jumping on facebook to defend himself immediately seems mighty odd to me. Wouldn't he instead be trying to reach his mother/brother/father to see if it was true? I'd also like to know how it was that his brother had his id.

JMO

 

[wfgodot]

At the staging area after the Sandy Hook shooting there was a "reluctance" to tell parents their children had died, Governor Dan Malloy said, and so he took the decision to tell them.

"It was evident to me that there was a reluctance to tell parents and loved ones that the person they were waiting for was not going to be going home," Malloy said.

"So I made a decision that rather than relying on traditional, investigative policies ... I made the decision that to have that go on any longer was wrong.

"I did it."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-news-blog/2012/dec/17/newtown-shootings-funerals-victims-live

 

[nursebeeme]

Jumping on facebook to defend himself immediately seems mighty odd to me. Wouldn't he instead be trying to reach his mother/brother/father to see if it was true? I'd also like to know how it was that his brother had his id.

JMO

he is a victim. I will bring over Jbean's warning about family members in case anyone missed it earlier.

 

[ami]

Talk about stigmatized...Suppose a miracle happens and the child is cured of whatever is bothering them. He gets an education and goes to a job interview. Someone looks him up on the internet. Hey, his mom thinks he's a mass murderer.

Do you think he's going to get a job as an accountant?

ITA. And it was odd to see part of her interview... she requested privacy for herself and her children. I get that she didn't think her article would go viral - though in this day and age I'm not sure how you could really have that confidence - but she tied her son directly to a mass murderer and the title of her article popped up anytime someone searched for the murderer's name, or "adam lanza's mother" which also had to be one of the top search terms in the last few days.

In a way the message was a necessary one: we need to talk about mental illness and help parents get help for their kids. In another way I wish she would have kept it more anonymous. I don't know.

 

[MyBelle]

Where do you find such a "rescue squad"? There is no such thing where I live. You call the police. There isn't anybody else.

Call 9-1-1. If you don't live in an area with nearby emergency health care, you'll have to load the child into your care yourself and take them to such care.

JMO

 

[nursebeeme]

reminder about the family:

We know nothing concrete about the family dynamics.
As I have posted before almost all accounts of Nancy as a mother portray her as a lovely devoted mother.
Attacking her integrity and her choices will not be tolerated at this time. Not only it is this a victim friendly site- but we have not got the first clue what is or is not true as it relates to the shooter and his mother.

She has paid the ultimate price. leave her alone. Leave the family alone, the whole family.

We do not know enough.

THIS IS THE FINAL WARNING. If you see members violate please alert.

 

[Kmonci]

When a person is ill, you call a rescue squad, not the cops.

JMO

What's that? Not to validate the <modsnip> blogger, but I know from experience in dealing with a mentally ill person who is non compliant the only way to get them into a facility is to have them arrested and put on a 5150 hold. I wish there had been a rescue squad I could have called for my mom!

 

[ami]

We don't know that his father did not try to have contact with AL.
My (mentally ill) brother did not communicate with any family members, other than one brother, my mom, and myself.(when I was there.) My dad was in a nursing home the last two years of his life and finally, my brother went to visit in the middle of the night, when he was dying, so he could avoid talking to anyone else. But he never would talk to my dad on the phone, or come downstairs when my dad was home for a few hours on special occasions. And he loved my dad, he just couldn't do it.

My mentally ill brother doesn't communicate either. He does have a cell phone but doesn't answer it and gets suspicious when it rings, and if a family member like me, his sister, comes home for a holiday after being away for a few months he hides. Strangely he will always come out of his (in-house) apartment for a child or an animal. Not adults. So I can understand how a family could lose contact or become functionally 'estranged' from someone with a mental illness. It's sometimes not for lack of effort.... just a casualty of their condition.

 

[Darkman00]

Adam Lanza: Should His Parents Have Seen Warning Signs?

by Free Britney at December 17, 2012 3:33 pm

Plenty of fingers have been and will continue to be pointed in the aftermath of the Connecticut school shooting, but could Adam Lanza's parents have ever seen this coming?

Their 2008 divorce papers reveal nothing that would indicate their son had serious mental issues, however, there may have been some warning signs.

A mediator who worked with the couple recalled his mother saying she didn't like to leave him alone and that his parents went out of their way to accommodate him.

Marriage therapist Paula Levy said that during about 10 two-hour sessions, Nancy and Peter Lanza were respectful of each other and concerned about their son.

Read more at: http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2012/12/adam-lanza-should-his-parents-have-seen-warning-signs

 

[Kimster]

What's that? Not to validate the attention <mod snip> blogger, but I know from experience in dealing with a mentally ill person who is non compliant the only way to get them into a facility is to have them arrested and put on a 5150 hold. I wish there had been a rescue squad I could have called for my mom!

I'm not getting this information? Who do you call for what?

I know of someone who had a child lock themselves in a bathroom threatening to kill themselves and had a kitchen knife in there. They called LE and they were locked in the hospital on a 24 hour hold. The hospital released them saying they were fine. I don't feel they were fine, but nothing else was done about it. If the parents needed help, they sure didn't get any.

 

[Marina2]

he is a victim. I will bring over Jbean's warning about family members in case anyone missed it earlier.

Thank you. We don't know that the father "washed his hands" of his son nor do we know whether RL tried to contact his Mom, Dad or brother before posting on Facebook. Please everyone, there are a lot of assumptions going on in these threads, we're better than that.

 

[Norwegian]

Jumping on facebook to defend himself immediately seems mighty odd to me. Wouldn't he instead be trying to reach his mother/brother/father to see if it was true? I'd also like to know how it was that his brother had his id.

JMO

By the time it was broadcasted on TV he is likely to have gotten a lot of messages through FB.

I checked FB right away when his name was announced and groups called "I hate RL" had already been formed.

So I don't think it is strange that he choose FB to "protect" himself at that moment.

 

[Darkman00]

Jumping on facebook to defend himself immediately seems mighty odd to me. Wouldn't he instead be trying to reach his mother/brother/father to see if it was true?
JMO

We are not in his shoes to know what exactly we would do ... everyone can react differently in such situations, i am sure...

Shock element etc....

 

[MyBelle]

Some times is it the only way if she did not call police he may escalate and cause harm to those around him. I read it and what I took away from it was she is a mother who has tried and will continue to find some way to help her son and also the other people in the world who will have to deal with him.To most it seems extreme to call police to me she is a mother who is not in denial and wants help desperately.

Calling police is not the answer if the mother truly cares for the child. Doing so can cause the child to escalate in the presence of police. What does the mother expect the police to do? Shoot the child? Arrest him for terroristic threats? What does giving the kid a rap sheet accomplish that is worthwhile? Arresting and throwing mentally ill kids into youth facilities simply exposes them to other very troubled youth and violence can result. Cops aren't parents and are trained to protect themselves and will do so. Tossing a mentally-ill child into the criminal justice system accomplishes nothing worthwhile for the child but that's just my opinion.

 

[flipflop]

Jumping on facebook to defend himself immediately seems mighty odd to me. Wouldn't he instead be trying to reach his mother/brother/father to see if it was true? I'd also like to know how it was that his brother had his id.

JMO

But really, what the heck would you do? Who would you run to, where do you go? Who said he DIDN'T try to reach his family members? Im guessing he did try and call them all, getting no answer and no one to talk to, he jumps on facebook to defend himself, I find nothing odd about that.

 

[Norwegian]

Adam Lanza: Should His Parents Have Seen Warning Signs?

by Free Britney at December 17, 2012 3:33 pm

Plenty of fingers have been and will continue to be pointed in the aftermath of the Connecticut school shooting, but could Adam Lanza's parents have ever seen this coming?

Their 2008 divorce papers reveal nothing that would indicate their son had serious mental issues, however, there may have been some warning signs.

A mediator who worked with the couple recalled his mother saying she didn't like to leave him alone and that his parents went out of their way to accommodate him.

Marriage therapist Paula Levy said that during about 10 two-hour sessions, Nancy and Peter Lanza were respectful of each other and concerned about their son.

Read more at: http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2012/12/adam-lanza-should-his-parents-have-seen-warning-signs

This is a professional airing their business? Sorry, but that is just so out there.

 

[nomoresorrow]

I don't want to quote your post Darkman00 above because I don't want to perpetuate something I find incredibly wrong (not directed at you) but it is just wrong on so many levels for a past-therapist to be talking to the press!

 

[MyBelle]

What's that? Not to validate the attention whoring blogger, but I know from experience in dealing with a mentally ill person who is non compliant the only way to get them into a facility is to have them arrested and put on a 5150 hold. I wish there had been a rescue squad I could have called for my mom!

My reference was about a 13-year-old child. A child in the criminal justice system isn't going to receive much mental health help.

JMO

 

[Kimster]

Calling police is not the answer if the mother truly cares for the child. Doing so can cause the child to escalate in the presence of police. What does the mother expect the police to do? Shoot the child? Arrest him for terroristic threats? What does giving the kid a rap sheet accomplish that is worthwhile? Arresting and throwing mentally ill kids into youth facilities simply exposes them to other very troubled youth and violence can result. Cops aren't parents and are trained to protect themselves and will do so. Tossing a mentally-ill child into the criminal justice system accomplishes nothing worthwhile for the child but that's just my opinion.

I have to disagree! If an Aspie does something illegal and spends a night in a juvenile detention center, it can change that behavior like no other. I've seen it happen with both a juvenile AND an adult Aspie.

I mentioned this earlier in the thread - but I used to be very involved in seminars, IEPs for Aspies, law enforcement awareness, etc. I advocate behavior modification for Aspies. Very much. But not to the point where they are housed with hardened criminals that will pose a danger to them. A night in the pokey can really help them if handled correctly!