Connecticut school district on lockdown after shooting report at a Newtown elemen #7

[BetteDavisEyes]

Will someone do a screen-grab of the photo of AL with his second grade teacher and classmates? It might not be available for the duration of the case discussion here at Websleuths. TIA

 

[21merc7]

Looks like we are in for a long haul with only friends, neighbors, and sources. Just checked the CSP site for any info. Here is yesterday's update>

UPDATE: Newtown School Shooting

There is no further information to be released by the Connecticut State Police at this time.

The incident remains under investigation as State Police, assisted by Newtown Police and other Law Enforcement, continue to work with the victims and their families.

It is anticipated that the final Connecticut State Police report is several months away.



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Lt. J. Paul Vance

http://www.ct.gov/despp/site/default.asp

 

[gngr~snap]

Will someone do a screen-grab of the photo of AL with his second grade teacher and classmates? It might not be available for the duration of the case discussion here at Websleuths. TIA

OK I got it.

 

[Donjeta]

http://www.insideedition.com/headli...-lanza-class-photo-from-sandy-hook-elementary

 

[Pensfan]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/20/connecticut-killings-reopen-debate-on-mental-illness/

Connecticut killings reopen debate on forcibly committing the mentally ill

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...eopen-debate-on-mental-illness/#ixzz2FdMiXwLl


Connecticut is one of a handful of states in America that does not have an “assisted outpatient treatment” law. Under AOT laws, like the kind proposed and ignored earlier this year in Connecticut, states can force a mentally ill person into treatment if there is a risk of harm to others.

In New Hampshire, for example, a doctor’s note is enough to trigger an initial confinement but the person requesting the lock-up must then present evidence before a district judge within three days showing probable cause or the patient walks.

bbm
People who are deemed to be a danger to themselves or others CAN be involuntarily committed to an inpatient hospital in CT.
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2002/rpt/2002-R-0848.htm
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2000/rpt/2000-R-0309.htm

 

[mck16]

Looks like we are in for a long haul with only friends, neighbors, and sources. Just checked the CSP site for any info. Here is yesterday's update>



http://www.ct.gov/despp/site/default.asp

Well that is short and to the point. Wonder if they came across something they do not want revealed to the public. I don't know. I think weird especially since he promised they would get all the info and get to the motive. Maybe they did and just aren't ready to release it. jmo

 

[Mrs G Norris]

You know it took me seeing that photo to completely believe that he attended that school as a boy .. so now it is fair to assume that the psychologist had some engagement with him since she was there when he attended, I wonder if it's correct that she was also friends with NL.

http://www.insideedition.com/headli...-lanza-class-photo-from-sandy-hook-elementary

 

[gngr~snap]

I want to know why the school said he never went there?
~something stinks.

 

[21merc7]

Well that is short and to the point. Wonder if they came across something they do not want revealed to the public. I don't know. I think weird especially since he promised they would get all the info and get to the motive. Maybe they did and just aren't ready to release it. jmo

Still waiting on hard drive info, toxicology, and forensic lab work, also any and all medical and school history. Witness info, that's hard to say given they are so young. I do think it will all be carefully worded whenever it is done. There may also be a need to not say much right now for the families and the holidays. Better to wait and put it all out at once, and let the families try to find some stable ground.

 

[Tennlyn]

Victor Cruz of the NY Giants. I think I read that Jack was buried in his Cruz jersey even. Cruz has also been in contacted with the family and what I love most about this is that Cruz has remained quiet over what he has spoken to he family about and is not doing this to just get his name in the paper.

I think I also read that Derek Jeter also contacted one of the families. I want to say it was one of the teachers who was a huge Yankees fan. Again, Jeter did this without alerting the media, he like Cruz kept it private.

Mel

http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=781279
"[Paul] Simon was among the mourners at the Lordship Community Church, and he stepped up to perform "The Sound of Silence," which was Soto's favorite song."

Another entertainer quietly supporting the family. :candle:

 

[katydid23]

This is all very confusing. Not only did they initially say that Adam never went there as a student, but they also said his mom had no connection there at the school, but she might have been a volunteer at one time.

So did she volunteer there or was she an aide or a teacher? I still do not have clarity on that.

 

[Xavier]

This story is fairly recent and wanted to share it...And it shows the pre-meditated plan by AL


Mental disorder, mental illness, personality disorder, Asperger's disorder,whatever disorder this guy had, this guy was Out of Order and Knew Right from Wrong. I'm not going to spend alot of time analyzing his "disorder", it makes me so sick

I have no sympathy for him at all. Those gunned down at the school probably had no way to survive these types of bullets/ammo AL used...this type of ammo just rips all parts of flesh off the person...they were shot all over their bodies, faces, some parents could not identify their children by looking at them...it's so incomprehensible, it makes me so angry thinking about it....A local police officer told me rarely do people survive this kind of ammo AL used...

And some of the bullets went through the school walls and pinged off the car(s) in the parking lot....

Wayne Carver, the Connecticut medical examiner, said Lanza used a technique known to gun enthusiasts as "jungle-taping". This helps explain how the killer was able to wreak so much carnage in a shooting spree that may have lasted barely five minutes.

Dannel Malloy the Connecticut governor, disclosed that Lanza broke into the school by firing a volley of bullets through a secured door and killed himself when he when he heard police arriving while he was still gunning down children.

That raised the prospect that the death toll might have been even higher if the emergency services had not reached the site so quickly.

Police found seven terrified children cowering in the cupboard of a second room after Lanza wiped out one class of six and seven-year-olds and their two teachers. "There were 14 coats hanging there and 14 bodies. He killed them all," a law enforcement officer told the Hartford Courant.

The bullets used in the massacre were designed specifically to penetrate deep tissue and do a "devastating" amount of damage. Weapons experts believe the killer used "frangible ammunition", which fragments on impact, inflicting wounds that are usually beyond medical help.

The weapons were all owned by Mrs Lanza, who was reportedly in bed when her son killed her with shots to the head before driving to the school.

Lanza is believed to have fired at least three 30-bullet magazines with chilling accuracy – only two people, both teachers, survived their injuries.

FBI electronics experts are poring over the broken hard drive trying to determine what is likely to be crucial evidence about how he planned his killing spree, with whom he exchanged messages and what websites he visited.

 

[SailorMoon]

At the following link, you will see Kip Kinkel's reasons for killing his parents. Please note that it may be too soon for some to read, so be careful!

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/kinkel/kip/writings.html

Also, there is a thread on parricide from our Resource Center: Parricide - Why do kids kill their parents? - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Wow. That's almost sad. These teens have no idea that it will get better. Just like the ones who commit suicide.

 

[jjenny]

2010 Dad got married??

I believe so.

 

[Noniegrace]

I want to know why the school said he never went there?
~something stinks.

Did they say that??? I agree with something is just OFF here...he falls off the radar at certain points in his life and no one seems willing to say he was ever around.

 

[jjenny]

I want to know why the school said he never went there?
~something stinks.

I don't believe school ever said that he never went there.

 

[jennapuppy]

Wonder if AL was truly pulled out of school or the school recommended to the mother that it was not a good/appropriate place for him. Possibly expelled. Things are just too quiet about this family. Certain the silence will break before long!

If a public school district says that they do not have an appropriate placement for a child then, by law, they are required to pay for the placement that they have recommended, so it is highly unlikely that this is what happened. School districts tend to bend over backwards to accommodate special needs students, if that's what he indeed was and seldom expel them - that's been my experience, anyway.
imo

 

[csziggy]

Guessing; his mother's house, his father's house...could the 3rd be a doctor's files on him?

Would one be needed for NL's house since it is a crime scene?

JMO

 

[Xavier]

This is all very confusing. Not only did they initially say that Adam never went there as a student, but they also said his mom had no connection there at the school, but she might have been a volunteer at one time.

So did she volunteer there or was she an aide or a teacher? I still do not have clarity on that.

Katy--- The stories that have consistency in their validity all seem to concur NL had volunteered at Sandy and was friends with the school nurse and principal. She also helped some kindergarten classes. I would'nt get too hung up on this..The reports all say AL was a Sandy student at one time.

 

[OneLostGrl]

bbm
People who are deemed to be a danger to themselves or others CAN be involuntarily committed to an inpatient hospital in CT.
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2002/rpt/2002-R-0848.htm
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2000/rpt/2000-R-0309.htm

Sure can.. I was involuntarily committed in CT several times

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