Connecticut school district on lockdown after shooting report at a Newtown elemen #7

[passionflower]

Asperger's didn't cause Adam Lanza CT shooting, ME says

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/national_world&id=8925597

This pix shows AL as getting shy and thinner than the other school pix with teacher and class

 

[Pensfan]

http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2008/06/03/bellevue#ixzz2FdvX2pJP

http://bellevuecollege.edu/ols/

That is an awesome program.

Can anyone find a college in Washington state for those on the spectrum or developmental disabilities that offers a degree in engineering?

 

[passionflower]

I wish I knew how to put his 3 pix side by side by year for comparison.
AL deteriated through the years.
NL had to know.
That's why she had a secret life with AL..............
No one needed to know how bad AL really was, JMOO

 

[Penelope]

I just wanted to throw out an acknowledgement and thank you to all of the teacher's aides and custodians out there. I work at a school district (not at the school) and I can tell you these people do not make a lot of money and do it for the kids. Many of the aides have college degrees (many have Masters level) but are paid between $9-11 an hour. Maybe it's a little more in CT, but probably not. They are completely devoted to these children and it's obvious they would risk their lives for these kids just like the folks in CT. All I can say is I hope I can show such bravery and honor as these school employees in CT if I am ever put in such a situation. The vision of the teacher's aide holding the little boy in her arms as they were both murdered is so loving and courageous it just makes me want to cry more. In such a horrible way to die, she was able to give him love until the last second he had on Earth. And I'm sure she felt his love as well.

I work as an Educational Assistant (similar to a Teacher's Aide) and I agree, the people I work with would risk their lives for their students, including me. Our school is located in a small town an hour and a half north of Winnipeg. In a meeting yesterday with the high school EA staff, our Principal told us that our school is not equipped to keep out shooters such as AL. Didn't make me feel too good. (

 

[Pensfan]

So he could have been completely psychotic and planned it meticulously ... that photo of him from his DL still haunts me, and if reports are correct that he got his license at 18 that means it was taken two years ago .. scary if he was untreated and that sick for so long ...

bbm
Yes. People who are psychotic can still have rational thoughts. Psychosis includes hallucinations and delusions, but the hallucinations and delusions may not completely interfere/control other areas of their daily functioning/thoughts/behaviors.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

bbm
Yes. People who are psychotic can still have rational thoughts. Psychosis includes hallucinations and delusions, but the hallucinations and delusions may not completely interfere/control other areas of their daily functioning/thoughts/behaviors.

Do you think he was an untreated schizophrenic?

 

[wfgodot]

'Kings Park': Old Mental Asylums Shed Light on Newtown Crisis (abcnews.go.com)

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But, as her documentary reveals, that never happened. New medications allowed patients to be more independent and federal programs stepped in to help, but states never fully funded community-based care.

The failure of states to implement integrated programs for the mentally ill is still playing out today in a national conversation on mental health care after the death of 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.
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much more, with a video, at the link

 

[QueenD]

Remembering Vicki Soto on Anderson cooper

Christmas was Vicki fav holiday. She did the secret Santa , they (family)will do it again this year in her honor. She was the special Ed teacher.

 

[pamelahl1]

I can't find any college specifically for students on the autistic spectrum in WA state.
http://www.collegexpress.com/lists/...ts-with-aspergers-the-very-friendly-ones/421/

Can anyone else?

I would love for my son to be able to attend here...sounds so wonderful!

http://bellevuecollege.edu/ols/

Bellevue College
3000 Landerholm Circle S.E.
Bellevue, Washington 98007
Maintained by[email protected]

 

[helpful]

Where do they plan to keep his body until spring? that is nuts!

Sometimes in extremely cold areas, the ground is too hard/frozen to bury people in the winter. They keep the bodies of the deceased and bury them in the spring. I'm pretty sure - and sorry for the graphic description - that they embalm the bodies and then keep them refrigerated either in the morgue or at the funeral home.

(It's what we did with my great-gran.)

Clearly that's not what's going on here, as CT definitely doesn't get cold enough to prevent burial, but the entire procedure isn't without precedent and so isn't that "weird" in the grander scheme of things.

Edited to add a source. This article from the NYT describes storing the bodies of people who die when it's too cold for burial.

 

[QueenD]

Family knew the kids in her class cause she talk so much about the kids in her class.

They knew when they read the list if victims which ones where in her class.

Said she would have been so mad the 5 that parished that she didn't save them too.

 

[Pensfan]

Do you think he was an untreated schizophrenic?

There isn't enough info released to decide this. If we hear he was paranoid, had weird obsessions, hallucinations, and/or delusions, then he might have been in the prodromal stage of schizophrenia or schizophrenic.

He may have also suffered from Major Depression with psychotic features. This is not schizophrenia, but there can be anger and psychotic symptoms. The man who shot up the women's gym in Pittsburgh several years ago suffered with this mental health problem.

Most experts on mass murderers state that mass killings are almost always done in retaliation and the killer was not psychotic.

 

[jjenny]

That is an awesome program.

Can anyone find a college in Washington state for those on the spectrum or developmental disabilities that offers a degree in engineering?

If you look up what this college offers, it has an engineering program.

 

[jking]

Do you think he was an untreated schizophrenic?

After reading all of the posts on this forum for the past several days, yes I do think that. I do not think he had Aspergers at all. :twocents:

 

[jjenny]

ITA. She couldn't tell her friends that she was going to institutionalize her son because she reportedly did not share any personal info. about her home life. Her friends were never told about the difficult time she was having with Axxx.

She told her friends that Axxx was going allllllllllllllll the way across America to attend "a special school". IMO, this was going to be her excuse for why he wasn't able to ever come home and visit.

She was telling friends she was going to move to be near him. So nobody would be coming home to visit.

 

[Pensfan]

If you look up what this college offers, it has an engineering program.

Thank you!
http://scidiv.bellevuecollege.edu/Engr/

 

[jjenny]

BBM
People on the spectrum are very frequently inflexible, rigid and have anxiety when they have to experience change in their lives. He couldn't function at college because he obviously wasn't even able to function while living at home.

He already went to college at 16 and got decent grades. How is that he couldn't function at college, when he already functioned at college, and at a younger age than anybody else there? He also got a driver's license at 18, which I believe is pretty close to an average age of getting a driver's license.

 

[Jen38]

I would love for my son to be able to attend here...sounds so wonderful!

http://bellevuecollege.edu/ols/

Bellevue College
3000 Landerholm Circle S.E.
Bellevue, Washington 98007
Maintained by[email protected]

Now if I could find one for the midwest part of the country....

 

[not_my_kids]

Is it possible that there were no plans for schooling, no plans for institutionalizing him, but only a plan to move and keep AL with her? Maybe the threat that he percieved was not going to an institution, but rather his mother moving him somewhere unfamiliar, and making him leave his video games behind?

If she thought she could save him and she planned to take him to a different state and not allow him access to the things she felt were making him more withdrawn, I can see him taking that as a pretty big threat to his perception of his own well being.

 

[callyn]

ITA. She couldn't tell her friends that she was going to institutionalize her son because she reportedly did not share any personal info. about her home life. Her friends were never told about the difficult time she was having with Axxx.

She told her friends that Axxx was going allllllllllllllll the way across America to attend "a special school". IMO, this was going to be her excuse for why he wasn't able to ever come home and visit.

BBM
I don't understand what you mean by this. Could you please explain? Not being snarky, I really would like to know.