Connecticut school district on lockdown after shooting report at a Newtown elemen #8

[flipflop]

He looked really skinny even in the high school pic.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...led-life-of-Sandy-Hook-killer-Adam-Lanza.html

Yes he looked skinny, but not deathly skinny.

 

[Reannan]

BBM
Do you have any thoughts as to why the ME would want to consult with a geneticist? Are there hereditary conditions that could cause such wasting?

I have some thoughts about this. From the very beginning of this horrible nightmare story, nothing, absolutely nothing, has added up to anything we can understand. At the same time, there are little tidbits of information that tug at your heart strings for both Nancy, the Mother, and even for Adam.... Nancy appears to be a mother who cared deeply about her son, but was perhaps in denial about how severe his problems really were. Adam appears to be a troubled soul that never fit in with anything he tried..... but that does not appear to have bothered him - at least outwardly.... Adam did not speak, Adam was abnormally thin, Adam played games online yet left no identity that can be traced. From our current perspective, it is obviously a recipe for "trouble"..... in this case, the "trouble" has ended in disaster. For the first time in humanity's existence, we can look at the DNA structure of human beings. We have mapped the entire human genome, and we have identified common abnormalities that cause human disease.... BRACA1 and BRACA2 for instance with breast cancer. The technology that has brought us to this state is fascinating and wonderful, and scary.... The technology now maps the human genome and it frequently finds abnormalities that have no known association.... Here is where it gets interesting... I would LOVE to see the human genome sequencing (microarray) for Adam Lanza and James Holmes. Do they share an abnormality? Maybe not.... but as time goes on, and we continue to gather data and analyze it in conjunction with past cases, the data may become evident. Genetic testing of Adam Lanza is one of the most crucial things we can do as a society to try and understand him.... and predict furture Adam Lanza's. Sorry for the long post.. This is a very deep subject.

 

[joedotnet]

I am still very hung up on the fact that he apparently had his brother's ID on him. Why? If he had no contact with the brother in two years why did he have his ID? If he was so smart did he really think no one would figure out who he was and what he was???? Just boggles my brain among all the other things about this shooter.

Just makes me want to scream.

I feel so bad about his mother and then again I begin to wonder about her maybe enabling him so much.:banghead:





These poor families and these little children dead an buried at Christmas....this is just so incredibly sad.

Maybe we are giving him too much credit. Maybe he just stole it and used it to buy beer and always kept it with him.

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[Wise Old Owl]

I wonder if LE ever found his drivers license and if they did - where did they find it?




JMHO

 

[kdblaisdell]

You know, if he was on the autism spectrum, he could very well have had issues with a lot of food's tastes, textures, etc. that might account for the weight. Btw, how old is that pic?

 

[gngr~snap]

BBM
Do you have any thoughts as to why the ME would want to consult with a geneticist? Are there hereditary conditions that could cause such wasting?

Yes there are. Two that come to mind are celiac and chron's disease.
Autopsy should have revealed if he had either of those.
I'm just not sure a genetic disease would explain
his behavior. Malnutrition or starvation might.
But the question is why and how did he get so emaciated...
I think he is just ruling out a genetic base first in order to be sure.
If none known are found or he has no markers, then
he has to consider other possibilities... but who will
he ask about his eating habits etc?
She's dead.

Clearly brother and dad are fine as was she as far as
no muscle wasting/ severe weight loss.

Don't know where this will end up...
or that it will ever explain why he did what he did.
moo

 

[flipflop]

Yes there are. Two that come to mind are celiac and chron's disease.
Autopsy should have revealed if he had either of those.
I'm just not sure a genetic disease would explain
his behavior. Malnutrition or starvation might.
But the question is why and how did he get so emaciated...
I think he is just ruling out a genetic base first in order to be sure.
If none known are found or he has no markers, then
he has to consider other possibilities... but who will
he ask about his eating habits etc?
She's dead.

Clearly brother and dad are fine as was she as far as
no muscle wasting/ severe weight loss.

Don't know where this will end up...
or that it will ever explain why he did what he did.
moo

celiac does cause behaviour problems in some children,

 

[gngr~snap]

celiac does cause behaviour problems in some children,

yep. From my personal experience... (I have Asperger's and Celiac
and a conundrum of other stuff. TMI )
I was hyperactive... Never shut my mouth. Never took a nap...
Full throttle ALL the time.

I won't dispute that it could go the other way.
I have not done any research.

Maybe some mama's here with kids that have Asperger's
and gluten intolerance can chime in.

 

[MyBelle]

Schools are mandated reporters as are people in healthcare. By law if the suspect something is wrong they have to call.
Due to his age, being over 18...
and the fact that no one has reported seeing him in 2 years
no one knew.

Does anyone have a link that says they saw the killer in person in the last 2 years?

What reason did the school have to intervene in Adam's case? If a parent withdraws a child there isn't anything a school can do about it under current laws. THAT is the biggest part of our current educational system that needs to be changed. If a parent withdraws a child to homeschool, the public educational system should still follow him to determine if such a move meets his needs and welfare.

JMO

 

[jjenny]

Maybe we are giving him too much credit. Maybe he just stole it and used it to buy beer and always kept it with him.

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Somehow I doubt he was going out buying beer.

 

[katydid23]

If you count every circle and square in the map you get 26, of which, 6 are distinct squares.
:what:

Fort Clinton and West Chelsea also on the map.

The pics showing AL age with his obvious favourite t-shirt are remarkable.

I am way behind on this thread---but where is this big 'STRIKE' map coming from? Was this AL's map? Or someone else's?

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Two more mental disorders which have weight loss as a symptom:

Schizophrenia
In the early phase, people with schizophrenia often seem eccentric, unmotivated, emotionless, and reclusive. They isolate themselves, start neglecting their appearance, say peculiar things, and show a general indifference to life which includes not eating. They may abandon hobbies and activities, and their performance at work or school deteriorates.


Major Depression includes symptoms of:
Significant weight loss when not dieting or weight gain (e.g., a change of more than 5% of body weight in a month), or decrease or increase in appetite nearly every day.

http://psychcentral.com/disorders/sx22.htm
http://www.helpguide.org/mental/schizophrenia_symptom.htm#early
http://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/tc/schizophrenia-symptoms

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes ..... I truly think AL had a major psychiatric disorder which was untreated. Either one of the two above - the poor guy in that respect because he would have suffered a severe amount of mental anguish which could have been relieved. It's sad. His weight is a major sign that things are going way wrong with him, and frankly he should have been in treatment somewhere, not holed up in his mom's basement playing violent video games next to the gun collection..

I mean seriously.

 

[txsvicki]

If he was already thin, just a month of skipping meals could cause severe weight loss. His mom went out of town to a spa though. It's hard to reconcile her being so concerned and searching for schools with him being so emaciated. He must have been quite a handful to deal with.

 

[MyBelle]

MATOU-- IMHO Lanza planned the whole thing out to make this a cat and mouse game for LE, make his mom pay for her decisions, make his brother pay for ignoring him for years and make the children, faculty pay because his mom was closely associated to the school and that's where he was likely first diagnosed having emotionally disturbed and/or other disabilities

Lanza waited for his mom to return on Thursday 12-13-12 from New Hampshire and then killed her when she returned home

He probably already broke into the foot locker for the weapons/ammo while his mom was gone to NH

Lanza probably found his brother's old ID in the brother's bedroom and used it to fool LE because Lanza knew he probably would not survive the shooting and he wanted to pin some humiliation/embarrassment on his brother by making everyone think it was him doing the killings

Lanza's planning also included destroying his computer's hard drives to make it even more difficult for LE to extract any thing behind the shootings

BBM. The destruction of the hard drives is an indication that something--or someone--else may have been involved either as a provocation for what happened or a manipulator of a very mentally disturbed young man. The only reason to go to the trouble of destroying the computer is if it indeed had a telling "trail" that needed to be hidden.

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

If he was already thin, just a month of skipping meals could cause severe weight loss. His mom went out of town to a spa though. It's hard to reconcile her being so concerned and searching for schools with him being so emaciated. He must have been quite a handful to deal with.

So far, most of what we know about Adam and their home life is via Nancy's comments to friends. Those comments may have been filtered to reflect not the truth but only what she wanted the friends to perceive to be true, i.e., that she had it all under control.

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes ..... I truly think AL had a major psychiatric disorder which was untreated. Either one of the two above - the poor guy in that respect because he would have suffered a severe amount of mental anguish which could have been relieved. It's sad. His weight is a major sign that things are going way wrong with him, and frankly he should have been in treatment somewhere, not holed up in his mom's basement playing violent video games next to the gun collection..

I mean seriously.

I agree. His photos resemble those of concentration camp prisoners during WWII.

 

[CJMAJORGIRL24]

Maybe we are giving him too much credit. Maybe he just stole it and used it to buy beer and always kept it with him.

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I usually agree with you, but not this time, Mister. :blushing:

Most boys his age might be buyin' beer, but not him. He would be buyin guns....or tryin to blame a horrific crime on his bro!! And really, it worked-there are still those who when asked who commited this crime, would claim the innocent one. jmo and all....

 

[txsvicki]

Could he play the video games without interracting with others online?

 

[CJMAJORGIRL24]

Schools are mandated reporters as are people in healthcare. By law if the suspect something is wrong they have to call.
Due to his age, being over 18...
and the fact that no one has reported seeing him in 2 years
no one knew.

Does anyone have a link that says they saw the killer in person in the last 2 years?

This is an important question!!!!

 

[jjenny]

This is an important question!!!!

He quit school when he was 16.
School didn't have anything to report him for.