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I am very interested in seeing a link to a scientific study that says people who meet several people socially but do not necessarily feel like talking a lot about their problems with their offspring with everyone are not normal.
 
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I am very interested in seeing a link to a scientific study that says people who meet several people socially but do not necessarily feel like talking a lot about their problems with their offspring with everyone are not normal.

I agree.

I think folks with healthy boundaries don't go around telling everyone their problems - in fact, I believe it's the folks with unhealthy boundaries who blurt out everything to anyone who'll listen. Most people with healthy boundaries typically only confide in those who they're closest to & have come to trust.

I don't know where the idea has sprung up that NL only had "superficial" or "shallow" friendships. Just because we haven't heard from anyone except a few people she knew casually, is not evidence that she didn't have close friends. She may have had several close friends. If so, perhaps they're choosing to refrain from talking to the media. IMO, the important thing is if they're talking with investigators & giving them info that may help solve this puzzle of why AL did what he did.
 
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I am wondering about AL and him having Asperger's. I am not a Dr nor do I know any one with Asperger's. For the posters here that do know is it your opinion that AL had Asperger's?
 
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Hi everyone. Hope you all had a nice holiday.
Saw this posted from a local site.
http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/For-many-Sandy-Hook-school-should-be-razed-4145303.php

The memories, residents say, are too ghastly for classes ever to be held at Sandy Hook again.

"It should be demolished," said John Vouros, a member of the Newtown Board of Education.

Read more: http://www.newstimes.com/local/arti...ool-should-be-razed-4145303.php#ixzz2GC3Vov00

The tragedy should be acknowledged, said William Rodgers, one of three members of the Newtown Board of Selectmen.

"I personally think that it's inappropriate to return to that building. My preference is to see it razed," Rodgers said, adding that the selectmen have not taken any vote on the school's future yet. "It's adjacent to a park, so maybe they could be connected."

But that's not enough, he said.

"There has to be some type of memorial there, in addition to whatever other memorials are made around town," he said. "There needs to be some sort of tribute at the spot

Read more: http://www.newstimes.com/local/arti...ool-should-be-razed-4145303.php#ixzz2GC6UukB1
 
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U.S. Mental Healthcare System Failing Patients, Advocates Say
Huffington Post
By: Alana Horowitz
Posted: 12/26/2012 12:15 pm EST | Updated: 12/26/2012 1:45 pm EST


"On Feb. 9, 1844, the governor of Missouri ate breakfast, went to his office and locked the door. Then he shot himself with a rifle. Thomas Reynolds’ death rattled the state and inspired a conversation about mental illness that led to the founding of its first public mental hospital.

168 years later, Missouri's mental health system is in crisis."

and

"Missouri is not an outlier. The National Alliance on Mental Illness in 2009 gave America's mental health system a D rating. When state budgets across the country have needed trimming in recent years, mental health services have often been among the first to go.

“It is not a glamorous issue,” said Sandy Pasch, a state representative from Wisconsin. “Mental health is often one of the first things to cut ... it’s not one of the heavily lobbied groups.""

Much, much more...

Good article, not just about the state of Missouri.
 
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I am wondering about AL and him having Asperger's. I am not a Dr nor do I know any one with Asperger's. For the posters here that do know is it your opinion that AL had Asperger's?

He may have, but there would've had to have been other things at play. He didn't only have Asperger's.
 
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I agree.

I think folks with healthy boundaries don't go around telling everyone their problems - in fact, I believe it's the folks with unhealthy boundaries who blurt out everything to anyone who'll listen. Most people with healthy boundaries typically only confide in those who they're closest to & have come to trust.

I don't know where the idea has sprung up that NL only had "superficial" or "shallow" friendships. Just because we haven't heard from anyone except a few people she knew casually, is not evidence that she didn't have close friends. She may have had several close friends. If so, perhaps they're choosing to refrain from talking to the media. IMO, the important thing is if they're talking with investigators & giving them info that may help solve this puzzle of why AL did what he did.

Yeah, and even if she only had superficial friendships it's still a leap to conclude that it was because she felt no "need" to create friendships and relationships with others.
 
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I agree.

I think folks with healthy boundaries don't go around telling everyone their problems - in fact, I believe it's the folks with unhealthy boundaries who blurt out everything to anyone who'll listen. Most people with healthy boundaries typically only confide in those who they're closest to & have come to trust.

I don't know where the idea has sprung up that NL only had "superficial" or "shallow" friendships. Just because we haven't heard from anyone except a few people she knew casually, is not evidence that she didn't have close friends. She may have had several close friends. If so, perhaps they're choosing to refrain from talking to the media. IMO, the important thing is if they're talking with investigators & giving them info that may help solve this puzzle of why AL did what he did.

According to her obit she sounds pretty normal to me. jmo

http://www.eagletribune.com/obituari...ncy-J-Lanza-52
 
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http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/12/26/sandy-hook-shooting-violent-video-games/
Does Sandy Hook Shooting Spell Game Over for Violent Video Game Stocks?

Senator Jay Rockefeller introduced a bill in Congress last week that directs federal agencies to study the influence of violent video games on children. In it, he calls on the National Academy of Sciences to lead the investigation and come back with an actionable report by 2014.
Last week was rough for owners of video game stocks.

Take-Two Interactive (TTWO) - Off 13 percent last week
Electronic Arts (EA) - Off 9 percent
Activision Blizzard (ATVI) - Off 7 percent
GameStop (GME) - Off 7 percent


Video games -- like movies -- are a form of escapism. The multi-player nature of many games today encourages social interaction, and that's something that could actually help straighten the mindset of the loner outcast that may resort to violent real-world outbursts. Spending free time playing games may also keep some youths out of causing havoc in the real world.
 
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AL living in the basement only says one thing to me... unsupervised.
 
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Merry Christmas

A new member shared with me that our phony uncle Lanza has been arrested and is currently incarcerated.
I don't want to reopen the discussion or link any of his "work" here, but rather I wanted to close the door on this <unusual person> and pass it along. :)

Here is the inmate locator.

http://www.chesco.org/index.aspx?NID=415

Thanks to Supernovanic
Again this s not to resurrect any discussion just to keep you all updated.

here is more info:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/jonathan-lee-riches-violated-687543


Thanks again to supernovanic for following this story.
 
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Nancy Lanza kept close ties to her family. For many grown people, they consider their family as their 'close, deep' friendships. So playing Bunko with the same neighborhood friends for 10 years might be close enough friendships, if you have very close connections with your family in New hampshire.
 
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It doesn't matter if the basement looked like the Taj Mahal, when you spend 90% of your time there and never interact with other people the other 10%, who would know if he was hallucinating?

With no windows that would provide natural light, AL probably had a very very messed up circadian rhythm. I bet if he slept 4 hours a week that would be plenty. I would guarantee he didn't have the run of the house and could come and go as he pleased when NL wasn't there. Maybe he wouldn't leave the basement unless she forced him to. This is gonna be very bizarre when it opens up.
 
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With no windows that would provide natural light, AL probably had a very very messed up circadian rhythm. I bet if he slept 4 hours a week that would be plenty. I would guarantee he didn't have the run of the house and could come and go as he pleased when NL wasn't there. Maybe he wouldn't leave the basement unless she forced him to. This is gonna be very bizarre when it opens up.

I agree....I still don't understand why she never invited anyone into her home AL living in basement just sounds the Phantom of the Opera or something...and I'm sure you are right .....there was something very dark/strange going on in that home.....
 
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Isn't it common for some adult children to live at their parents' home in the basement?
 
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Isn't it common for some adult children to live at their parents' home in the basement?

I wouldn't consider that common. I mean, yes, there are people who live in basements as a way of being "independent" without having to pay rent. But, the situations I've heard like that usually happen because there is a full apartment in the basement (kitchen, bathroom, living space, ect.). I know a few people who had basement apartments in their family home for a few years following college.

What makes AL's situation so strange is he didn't seem to leave...ever. Most of those people go to work or school. They go out socially or otherwise engage with society. The basement is just their living space. From the sounds of this AL's life WAS the basement which is what makes it all very strange. People hadn't seen him in YEARS. The barber didn't see him for years. The mother went out, but the son was never seen. If he really did spend all of his time in the basement one has to wonder why, especially when you consider it was just AL and NL in that big house alone. There were plenty of bedrooms. Normally in this type of situation you would think he'd have a bedroom upstairs and a game room or media room in the basement, but by all accounts he stayed in the basement all. the. time.

certainly odd and I, personally, think there was something very, very strange going on in that home with that family. Things just don't add up right, to me.
 
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