GUILTY Conrad Murray Case - After The Trial & Verdict

[peace9274]

I really hope this is nothing more than someone trying to get their 15 minutes of fame by exaggerating something one of the juror's told them after the verdict.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/09/language-barrier-conrad-murray-jury/#.TrrnffLwZbx

If it's true, which I doubt it is... and I think it would've been found out before now....
anyway, if it's true, IMO it's probably in regard to some medical terminology.

I suspect a lot of it was difficult for someone not in the medical profession to understand.
DAM... it was hard for ME to follow a lot of it!

 

[Credence]

If it's true, which I doubt it is... and I think it would've been found out before now....
anyway, if it's true, IMO it's probably in regard to some medical terminology.

I suspect a lot of it was difficult for someone not in the medical profession to understand.
DAM... it was hard for ME to follow a lot of it!

I agree peace. There were 5 Hispanic jurors -- 3 of which served as jurors before. The other two -- one is a postal carrier and one works for Workers Compensation. It could have simply been defining a word; IF true and I do hope it was that simple. Both sides had to question them in voir dire too.

Guaranteed though; the Judge will probably call the entire jury in to either confirm, deny or explain.

 

[TxLady2]

English speaking people have trouble with medical terminology sometimes. Maybe these hispanic jurors could speak and understand plain English, but face it.. medical terminology is difficult and if English was not their first language, well...... Even the generic names of medication sometimes make my tongue sore trying to pronounce them, and I worked in nursing homes for many years as well as in home health.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

OH --- I too will be watching it!!! I want to hear what CM has to say now, just like I wanted CM to testify.
It was somewhat amusing, to me, hearing him talk and tell what really happened to MJ, during the interview with LE.

Yes... I do want to hear all the lies that Michael Jackson can not dispute, and more lies about what
happened & how MJ praised him & adored him & wanted him to be the big honcho at MJ's future Children's Hospital ...
and I really want to see the fake emotions and tone of voice and his sad sad expressions. Poor Conrad Murray!

Sociopaths, with narcissistic traits, are really very interesting to watch...
and it can be very funny (as long as no one is being harmed) once they've been diagnosed!!
(Not fun to be conned by one, tho!!!)

It's amazing when you're "on to them"... watching the games they play and what all they try to get away with.
And hearing the outlandish tales they tell!

They never ever ever believe they have been diagnosed with a sociopath personality disorder (AKA anti-social personality D/O)...
so they never feel that you are "on to them" because they think you don't believe it either... and so, believe their lies!


I want there to be more ammunition for press to use against Conrad Murray. I feel the documentary will do just that. Poor Conrad Murray!

I know I'll be setting myself up for knots in my stomach, a throbbing headache, and to be boiling mad angry! But it'll be worth it!!!

I plan to watch. Why..I really don't know. We all better don our wader boots to be able to step through all this self serving bullchip that is coming.

We already know Murray really likes to make himself appear some super duper hero and will say anything and everything to put him in the best light.

He will 'act' concerned for his bestest friend :innocent: and then throw a dig in there against his bestest friend :innocent: for good measure. And on an on it will go until the thinks he has made himself appear larger than life. And of course like all full blown narcissist he will think of himself as the victim:innocent: instead of his bestest friend :innocent: he killed.



IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

English speaking people have trouble with medical terminology sometimes. Maybe these hispanic jurors could speak and understand plain English, but face it.. medical terminology is difficult and if English was not their first language, well...... Even the generic names of medication sometimes make my tongue sore trying to pronounce them, and I worked in nursing homes for many years as well as in home health.

I looked at all of their occupations and I didn't see one Hispanic I thought would have a language barrier.

And that is the first question asked on the jury questionnaire. I highly doubt a juror with a language barrier could complete such an extensive questionnaire and then be verbally voir dired by both sides before being chosen.

IMO

 

[peace9274]

I plan to watch. Why..I really don't know. We all better don our wader boots to be able to step through all this self serving bullchip that is coming.

We already know Murray really likes to make himself appear some super duper hero and will say anything and everything to put him in the best light.

He will 'act' concerned for his bestest friend :innocent: and then throw a dig in there against his bestest friend :innocent: for good measure. And on an on it will go until the thinks he has made himself appear larger than life. And of course like all full blown narcissist he will think of himself as the victim:innocent: instead of his bestest friend :innocent: he killed.


IMO

BBM

Yep! For sure! You hit it on the nail, oceanblueeyes...

Just like that idiotic little speech of his, regarding MJ's needing to take care of his poor hygiene.

OH! But wait.... along comes Mighty Murray to the rescue and saves the day...
I mean he really saves MJ's poor, neglected, sore feet and gives him a pedicure
(or found someone to) and a manicure... because Michael had "never had either in his whole life"!

And can you just imagine how grateful MJ was to CM? According to CM...
oh my, MJ just went overboard with praise and thank yous to CM!

And CM bought and brought creams and lotions and ointments for MJ and slathered
them all over his feet and legs... and oh yeah "I made them feel so much better."

I doubt MJ barely ever touched MJ, if at all, while MJ was being so called taken care of by CM!

CFCM is committing a breach of confidentiality when he talks about MJ....
talks about anything at all that has to do with MJ, including his health,
his hygiene, and any conversations he taped and played for others to hear!!!

 

[borndem]

38 is HLN here and nobody is even covering CM nor anything of interest to me.
Dr Drew just came on and Vinnie is guest hosting for Dr Drew... talking about a Penn State Sex Scandal.

Guess I'll watch Cash Cab, surf the internet, & play Spider Solitaire while I have a salad...
and wait for Dancing With The Stars to come on, in an hour.

It's kinda like a BIG let down around here, after the trial & verdict with so much coverage on the CM Trial, and for so long.

BBM
You said it, peace-pal-o-mine.

I've been sloshing around the internet and HLN (Here's Lotsa Nuttin' ? -- or some grammatically superior pseudonym for it) and IS and they've got a "re-sentencing" trial (or something similar) on for Susan what'shername who stabbed her abusive (according to her) husband - 193 times, but it's not that interesting.... There's a local one scheduled here for January, but I'm not "buying tickets" for it until it starts.... :waiting: So yeah, here we are...:waitasec::sigh:eace::whistle::coffeews::dunno::anguish::candle:resent::sleep::juggle::eye::shutup::whistle::sleep::sheesh::wave::aktion1: wandering around lookin' for a good one...

If someone finds a Good One, please post it here so we can travel over and participate and do the voodoo that we do.

 

[peace9274]

BBM

Yep! For sure! You hit it on the nail, oceanblueeyes...

Just like that idiotic little speech of his, regarding MJ's needing to take care of his poor hygiene.

OH! But wait.... along comes Mighty Murray to the rescue and saves the day...
I mean he really saves MJ's poor, neglected, sore feet and gives him a pedicure
(or found someone to) and a manicure... because Michael had "never had either in his whole life"!

And can you just imagine how grateful MJ was to CM? According to CM...
oh my, MJ just went overboard with praise and thank yous to CM!

And CM bought and brought creams and lotions and ointments for MJ and slathered
them all over his feet and legs... and oh yeah "I made them feel so much better."

I doubt MJ barely ever touched MJ, if at all, while MJ was being so called taken care of by CM!

CFCM is committing a breach of confidentiality when he talks about MJ....
talks about anything at all that has to do with MJ, including his health,
his hygiene, and any conversations he taped and played for others to hear!!!

BBM

I was so angry thinking about CM that I got my "opening statement" all mixed up in my last post.

I meant to say:
"Yep. For sure! You hit the nail on the head, oceanblueeyes... "

 

[peace9274]

BBM
You said it, peace-pal-o-mine.

I've been sloshing around the internet and HLN (Here's Lotsa Nuttin' ? -- or some grammatically superior pseudonym for it) and IS and they've got a "re-sentencing" trial (or something similar) on for Susan what'shername who stabbed her abusive (according to her) husband - 193 times, but it's not that interesting.... There's a local one scheduled here for January, but I'm not "buying tickets" for it until it starts.... :waiting: So yeah, here we are...:waitasec::sigh:eace::whistle::coffeews::dunno::anguish::candle:resent::sleep::juggle::eye::shutup::whistle::sleep::sheesh::wave::aktion1: wandering around lookin' for a good one...

If someone finds a Good One, please post it here so we can travel over and participate and do the voodoo that we do.

As much as I like true crime and the trials that go with it, I'm hoping for a reprieve for awhile.
As you know, I get so caught up in an interesting case and then everything else, somehow, gets neglected.

FYI: I did go to my dentist appointment this morning (to have a mold for my retainer made)....
and then to have a mini-tune-up on my golf cart.... and then to the store for a few needed items.

So, I do do (do-do?) other responsible things... and not just sit at the computer all day.
Now that the trial is over, I mean.

But, because I got used to it... and because I'm not expecting anyone to drop by... nor am I going out again... I did put my sun-dress back on!!!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

BM

Yep! For sure! You hit it on the nail, oceanblueeyes...

Just like that idiotic little speech of his, regarding MJ's needing to take care of his poor hygiene.

OH! But wait.... along comes Mighty Murray to the rescue and saves the day...
I mean he really saves MJ's poor, neglected, sore feet and gives him a pedicure
(or found someone to) and a manicure... because Michael had "never had either in his whole life"!

And can you just imagine how grateful MJ was to CM? According to CM...
oh my, MJ just went overboard with praise and thank yous to CM!

And CM bought and brought creams and lotions and ointments for MJ and slathered
them all over his feet and legs... and oh yeah "I made them feel so much better."

I doubt MJ barely ever touched MJ, if at all, while MJ was being so called taken care of by CM!

CFCM is committing a breach of confidentiality when he talks about MJ....
talks about anything at all that has to do with MJ, including his health,
his hygiene, and any conversations he taped and played for others to hear!!!

I wanted to gag when I heard Murray raving on about the dam* pedicure.

Good grief, I guess if MJ had a hang nail it would be such a big big deal to Murray if he clipped it off and made it all better! :innocent: Ugggh! I must be a glutton for pain if I plan to watch the drama king and his orchestrated unreality show.:innocent:

He is nothing but a low life coward. He wouldn't dare come out and say these things on the witness stand knowing Walgren would shred his 'story' to pieces.

IMO

 

[peace9274]

OK KIDS... it's time for another plug!!

I know. I know. I said no more. But I can't help myself!!!

My son Christopher just posted at FB, that he'll be involved in the production of an Occupy Wall Street Documentary Film.
He'll be moderating a discussion that "...will include many award winning documentary producers, directors, musicians and editors...
as well as PR people and distributors."

(If you go to this linked site and scroll down, the film makers & 2 others are there, my son being one of them. Old photo though!)

http://www.uniondocs.org/november-15-2011-occupy-wall-street-collaborative-film/

 

[borndem]

And this is why millions of people all over the world will miss this amazingly talented entertainer.

http://www.youtube.com/user/michael...&feature=pyv&ad=9347864484&kw=michael jackson

RIP! Michael!

You created so many happy memories for so many people!

I don't find his family disturbed. In fact as far as I am aware none of Jackson siblings have ever been in trouble with the law. Michael was accused and acquitted and the FBI investigated him for 17 years and found nothing. Which shows me the trial was politically motivated and exploited by the media to get profits and ratings.

So the Jackson family seemed to have been raised very well especially to come from an entertainment family with the children starting out so young. I love to see a family who is very united and strong. So many families nowadays are splintered.

We cannot say that MJ wasnt a good father. The vast amount of people who actually knew him and his children have always raved about him being a great father. That cannot be taken away from him by people that don't even know him or his children.

And there is no evidence that he was an active addict either at the time of his death. Everything he was taking was to help him sleep.......not get high.

So even though his method for sleep was legal but unorthodox that does not mean he wasnt a good father though. Most children aren't in their parents bedroom at night when the parent or parents are resting and neither was MJs children.

It is very evident that Paris, Prince and Blanket are exceptional children who were is a deep meaningful relationship with their father who was everything to them since he had raised them since their birth. If we had more fathers like MJ who makes sure they spend quality time with their children every single day the children would be far better off.

No one will ever come close to MJ as far as being the greatest entertainer the world has ever known. And if anyone has watched This Is It knows his talents were still there and his voice just as captivating as it always had been.

He would have rocked the world again if he had not been killed.

bbm Yes, he absolutely would have. And his children would have been knocked off their feet in amazement (I can't believe he's my dad!), awe, and pride. MJ would have sacrificed a lot, I think, while on the tour -- torn-up feet, sore muscles, weight loss, probably, but he would have healed -- just that one last series of tours. That would've been it. The last one. And then home to a new Jackson dwelling with his staff and his children. It would be their turn -- for as long as the children would have wanted.

I can see why, regardless of whether he wanted a personal MD who would obtain & administer propofol, he wanted a private physician to look after him -- he said he was concerned with his nutrition, keeping hydrated & generally healthy, etc., etc.

Yes, his body would have paid, but think about Broadway musical actors -- on stage every night, except Monday, with a couple of matinees added to it -- eight shows a week if the show is good. And not all of those actors/singers are 18--20 years old, as we know. I've seen a lot of B'way musicals, and I have been amazed at how they keep it fresh and exciting. (WICKED! three times!!! and many more -- a passion of mine...)

And Murray, I'll say again, wanted the money and the glam trip, but I think he wanted to help MJ do what he wanted on stage. He just should have had a chat with his patient and told him that milk on the road or at home was a no-can-do. He could have consulted a sleep expert and gotten some ideas, etc., etc., but the tour was imminent and he chose to abide by MJ's desperate wishes. So he arrogantly and ignorantly agreed -- jumped in the pool and found himself way over his head. That's why I think that last night of MJ's life was like all the rest with the drugs and the drip -- it was working, MJ was doing "just fine," so there was no reason to change.

So we have lost another amazing talent, way too soon.

:rant: ....... oops, did it again....

 

[peace9274]

bbm Yes, he absolutely would have. And his children would have been knocked off their feet in amazement (I can't believe he's my dad!), awe, and pride. MJ would have sacrificed a lot, I think, while on the tour -- torn-up feet, sore muscles, weight loss, probably, but he would have healed -- just that one last series of tours. That would've been it. The last one. And then home to a new Jackson dwelling with his staff and his children. It would be their turn -- for as long as the children would have wanted.

I can see why, regardless of whether he wanted a personal MD who would obtain & administer propofol, he wanted a private physician to look after him -- he said he was concerned with his nutrition, keeping hydrated & generally healthy, etc., etc.

Yes, his body would have paid, but think about Broadway musical actors -- on stage every night, except Monday, with a couple of matinees added to it -- eight shows a week if the show is good. And not all of those actors/singers are 18--20 years old, as we know. I've seen a lot of B'way musicals, and I have been amazed at how they keep it fresh and exciting. (WICKED! three times!!! and many more -- a passion of mine...)

And Murray, I'll say again, wanted the money and the glam trip, but I think he wanted to help MJ do what he wanted on stage. He just should have had a chat with his patient and told him that milk on the road or at home was a no-can-do. He could have consulted a sleep expert and gotten some ideas, etc., etc., but the tour was imminent and he chose to abide by MJ's desperate wishes. So he arrogantly and ignorantly agreed -- jumped in the pool and found himself way over his head. That's why I think that last night of MJ's life was like all the rest with the drugs and the drip -- it was working, MJ was doing "just fine," so there was no reason to change.

So we have lost another amazing talent, way too soon.

:rant: ....... oops, did it again....

BBM

Such nice posts today, everyone!

I bolded a sentence of yours,borndem, because it reminded me of why I think CM taped MJ's "drugged" conversation.

IMO, CM began taping MJ right after he gave the bolus or began the IV drip of propofol.

I think the tape was edited and CM kept asking MJ questions to see how long it took MJ to actually fall asleep.
This would tell CM how much propofol MJ needed, how soon it took effect and for how long it would keep MJ "asleep".

The part that makes me think this is at the end when MJ says: "I'm tired. I'm very sleepy. I'm asleep now."

 

[borndem]

Juror on GMA this morning:

Nearly all the 12 jurors chosen to decide the fate of Dr. Conrad Murray in the trial over the death of Michael Jackson had decided on his guilt the first day of deliberations, the first juror in the case to speak out exclusively tells ABC News.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/michael-ja...d-murray-juror/story?id=14912611#.TrqVbfLwZbw

A great find, Talina!! Thank you for sharing it with us.

It's just about what we thought that smart jury would do, isn't it? She told their "story" very well and essentially captured the jury's process in good taste, respectfully, and in brief. Nuff said. Very fine interview, IMO.

 

[borndem]

Has anyone noticed the times on here? It's EST, right?
I think the "clock" hasn't been changed yet.
Or I'm just confused! AFAIK, I'm now 2 hours behind NY.

The time here is a 3 hours difference from my time..

My time is right, here in the Far East -- the DST switched back to EST automatically for me here on WS, and all is right with the world.

But, Mzzz Arizona, aren't you in that state that doesn't participate? Heyell, no wonder you have trouble. Only Indiana is more screwy, IMO -- Puh-leeeze, this is not to be taken as an insult to you or your hot, hot state. Just sympathizin' Baby Girl, just sympathizin'.....

(hugs)

 

[MsBashterd]

Hi all, Bash is still here with you I had to go a little silent and watch from the sidelines for my own health I guess. Sorry this might be a little long but I just have to get it out a little therapy if you will. :blushing:

I have always been pretty up front about the fact that I am a recovering opidate dependent user. I started taking them due to a fall and breaking my tailbone, at that time I had suffered from chronic insomnia for about a year. I took one of those pills I slept for 8 hrs for the first time in month's. Dear god I slept. I stayed taking those pills for 3 years because I could sleep and had a Dr that refilled every 30 day's on the dot. The day I had to stop the day that I was out 2 weeks early and knew I had gone to far, the day that I was curled up in the fetal position on my living rrom floor praying to anyone to let me die was the day that MJ died. 2 years later I am clean and still suffer from chromic insomnia I maybe sleep 4 hours every few day's if I am not in one if my episode's. One of my episodes can last 7 to 14 day's I have been on it all Lunesta ambien, benzo's zoloft oddly no one seems to be able to fix me. I have been to sleep disorder studies, sleep dr's, sleep clinics, sleep forum's, ect. Short of opidate addiction it is on ofthe most isolating medical conditions I can think of. With all that being said MJ's death was absolutely entrancing to me. I know that sounds a bit morbid as soon as it came out about the propofal and insomnia I was hooked. I understand it I feel for every second that he suffered, I cried because I felt that a brother in this disordered had fallen. Became so desperate became so obsessed with the need to turn off to sleep. I understand why he did it. However ilogocal that was I can atest to the fact that if he suffered insomnia to the extent that I do their would be no way he could have gone out and performed those shows without sleep, I can honestly say that I spend most of my life exhausted but never tired if that makes sense. Ok with that out.....

The jury absolutely got this right if MJ wanted to have his milk for whatever reason that was I guess between him and DrM but DrM owed him to take care of him when he was under he owed him the proper care. He failed him for that he needs to do his time a man that was suffering from insomnia looked to him for the right care, however misguided. The amount of time isnt rally a big deal for me, I want to see him never ever ever be able to practice medicine again anywhere. Bravo to this jury Bravo!!!

Again DrM entraced me also I have had several Dr's turn their backs to me first my PC when I told her I had a problem and needed her help to lessen the w/d she looked at me and said it was my fault I misused them and how dare I come to her office and threaten her how dare me it was my problem leave her office. Again I was infuriated by DrM still am he abandoned MJ as my PC did to me. Toltally different but still the same you know.

I loved MJ their is not a time in my life that a MJ/Jackson Five song isnt part of a memory. He was simply the greatest performer of our time period. I wish he could have been given the help of the right kind of Dr's but I can say that I have been seeing them for 2 years and yea still the same as alway's maybe he had already been there.

Sleep well Mr Jackson I cry for you and what desperate measure's you felt you had to take, I understand you I feel for you. May you finally get the sleep that has so eluded you. Sleep well sweet prince.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

bbm Yes, he absolutely would have. And his children would have been knocked off their feet in amazement (I can't believe he's my dad!), awe, and pride. MJ would have sacrificed a lot, I think, while on the tour -- torn-up feet, sore muscles, weight loss, probably, but he would have healed -- just that one last series of tours. That would've been it. The last one. And then home to a new Jackson dwelling with his staff and his children. It would be their turn -- for as long as the children would have wanted.

I can see why, regardless of whether he wanted a personal MD who would obtain & administer propofol, he wanted a private physician to look after him -- he said he was concerned with his nutrition, keeping hydrated & generally healthy, etc., etc.

Yes, his body would have paid, but think about Broadway musical actors -- on stage every night, except Monday, with a couple of matinees added to it -- eight shows a week if the show is good. And not all of those actors/singers are 18--20 years old, as we know. I've seen a lot of B'way musicals, and I have been amazed at how they keep it fresh and exciting. (WICKED! three times!!! and many more -- a passion of mine...)

And Murray, I'll say again, wanted the money and the glam trip, but I think he wanted to help MJ do what he wanted on stage. He just should have had a chat with his patient and told him that milk on the road or at home was a no-can-do. He could have consulted a sleep expert and gotten some ideas, etc., etc., but the tour was imminent and he chose to abide by MJ's desperate wishes. So he arrogantly and ignorantly agreed -- jumped in the pool and found himself way over his head. That's why I think that last night of MJ's life was like all the rest with the drugs and the drip -- it was working, MJ was doing "just fine," so there was no reason to change.

So we have lost another amazing talent, way too soon.

:rant: ....... oops, did it again....

Great post as usual, Borndem!

I really think the rehearsals took more out of MJ due to them being much longer than the actual show would have been twice a week. Long hours and also having to make sure everything was just right...from the dance routines..lighting...directing.......etc.

Michael had always said he felt more comfortable on stage than anywhere else. I think all it would have taken is opening night for him to see just how receptive his fans were to him and it would be like a shot of adrenaline to MJ.

More than anything MJ wanted to do this for his children and I truly believe those children meant everything to him. I listened to one of his videos once as he talks about it and he said he is proudest of being able to be a father to his children. That it isn't about all the awards he had achieved in his lifetime but fatherhood brought him more joy than anything.

I truly do not believe one word Murray has said or will say. I don't think he ever told him of the dangers or tried to get him to stop. He just went along what had worked for 60 days and would have kept doing it if he hadn't killed MJ that day due to being such an irresponsible cad with other priorities on his mind.:innocent:

Oh btw/ I just have to tell y'all what happened to me today. I was busy painting the walls today and I am a perfectionist so I use two different trim brushes to make sure I get very clean lines. Well little did I know our little malti-shi, Tuxedo, took one of the brushes from the tray and took it over to our oriental area rug and was chewing on the brush like a bone!:doh:

OMG! I looked down to pick it up and it wasnt there and then I saw it on our new rug. Thank goodness I had taken most of the paint out of the brush and hadn't reloaded it yet. I had to clean the rug fast and Tuxie too!:floorlaugh:

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Hi all, Bash is still here with you I had to go a little silent and watch from the sidelines for my own health I guess. Sorry this might be a little long but I just have to get it out a little therapy if you will. :blushing:

I have always been pretty up front about the fact that I am a recovering opidate dependent user. I started taking them due to a fall and breaking my tailbone, at that time I had suffered from chronic insomnia for about a year. I took one of those pills I slept for 8 hrs for the first time in month's. Dear god I slept. I stayed taking those pills for 3 years because I could sleep and had a Dr that refilled every 30 day's on the dot. The day I had to stop the day that I was out 2 weeks early and knew I had gone to far, the day that I was curled up in the fetal position on my living rrom floor praying to anyone to let me die was the day that MJ died. 2 years later I am clean and still suffer from chromic insomnia I maybe sleep 4 hours every few day's if I am not in one if my episode's. One of my episodes can last 7 to 14 day's I have been on it all Lunesta ambien, benzo's zoloft oddly no one seems to be able to fix me. I have been to sleep disorder studies, sleep dr's, sleep clinics, sleep forum's, ect. Short of opidate addiction it is on ofthe most isolating medical conditions I can think of. With all that being said MJ's death was absolutely entrancing to me. I know that sounds a bit morbid as soon as it came out about the propofal and insomnia I was hooked. I understand it I feel for every second that he suffered, I cried because I felt that a brother in this disordered had fallen. Became so desperate became so obsessed with the need to turn off to sleep. I understand why he did it. However ilogocal that was I can atest to the fact that if he suffered insomnia to the extent that I do their would be no way he could have gone out and performed those shows without sleep, I can honestly say that I spend most of my life exhausted but never tired if that makes sense. Ok with that out.....

The jury absolutely got this right if MJ wanted to have his milk for whatever reason that was I guess between him and DrM but DrM owed him to take care of him when he was under he owed him the proper care. He failed him for that he needs to do his time a man that was suffering from insomnia looked to him for the right care, however misguided. The amount of time isnt rally a big deal for me, I want to see him never ever ever be able to practice medicine again anywhere. Bravo to this jury Bravo!!!

Again DrM entraced me also I have had several Dr's turn their backs to me first my PC when I told her I had a problem and needed her help to lessen the w/d she looked at me and said it was my fault I misused them and how dare I come to her office and threaten her how dare me it was my problem leave her office. Again I was infuriated by DrM still am he abandoned MJ as my PC did to me. Toltally different but still the same you know.

I loved MJ their is not a time in my life that a MJ/Jackson Five song isnt part of a memory. He was simply the greatest performer of our time period. I wish he could have been given the help of the right kind of Dr's but I can say that I have been seeing them for 2 years and yea still the same as alway's maybe he had already been there.

Sleep well Mr Jackson I cry for you and what desperate measure's you felt you had to take, I understand you I feel for you. May you finally get the sleep that has so eluded you. Sleep well sweet prince.

Ms. Bash! Your gut wrenching post as made me cry. I feel your pain and frustration. You bring this tragedy in focus. In the end all Michael really wanted was to sleep.

Thank you so very much for letting us understand what hell MJ must have gone through.

I know this..............to really know something and be able to truly understand it.........a person has to live it and my heart breaks for you and so many people who are desparate for some much needed rest and sleep.

God bless you.:heartluv::heartbeat::heartbeat:

 

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Bash I just wanted to thank you for sharing your experience with us. I have much compassion for a person who gets hooked on a drug for whatever reason as I also have a brother that I love with all of my heart that was an addict and has been in and out of rehab. He started taking pain meds for a specific, valid reason and the drugs wound up controlling him instead of him controlling them. He is a very good person and did not just choose to wake up one morning and decide he wanted to be a drug addict. It has been scientifically proven that once you are on certain pain meds for an amount of time; they do change the chemistry in the brain so it takes more than just "willpower" to overcome those types of addiction.

Much love for you and I wish you well in your struggle to overcome your addiction and remain that way. My heart sincerely goes out to you and I am typing this post through tears. It has touched me deeply. :rose: :heartbeat:

ETA: And d**n those doctors to hell for turning their backs on you. That really is despicable. grrr

 

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By law, the Texas Medical Board is required to pursue a suspension of a doctor who is initially convicted of a felony. Murray, a Houston cardiologist, still gets due process from the board — a chance to fight the pending suspension — just as he has the opportunity to appeal the felony conviction through the courts, said Leigh Hopper, a spokeswoman for the medical board.
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“It’s not like we flip a switch” and the doctor’s license is suspended or revoked the next day, Hopper said.

“We have initiated an investigation off of his (initial) conviction,” she said. Board investigators will subpoena court documents, review them and possibly hold a disciplinary hearing with Murray and his lawyer.

At some point, board lawyers might ask Murray if he wants to voluntarily surrender his license for suspension or revocation. If he doesn’t and pursues appeals through the courts, the board would not consider his conviction final until a court rules on his appeals, Hopper said.

If Murray loses his appeals, “then that is a final conviction and … we would go for the revocation,” Hopper said.

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/cont...2011/11/08/medical_board_pursuing_action.html