GUILTY Conrad Murray Case - After The Trial & Verdict

[oceanblueeyes]

Let me ask this.

Is the documentary going to air Friday or Thursday and Friday on MSNBC?

Savannah Guthrie also did an interview with Murray.

Here is the link.........

So is this also going to be on tv or has it already aired?

http://www.newsday.com/entertainmen...day-jackson-was-desperate-for-sleep-1.3307923

IMO

 

[MsBashterd]

Thanxs guy's as always when I feel at a lowest you all come through. True are your words Credence, they actually tell me the opidate's changed my chemical make up and have actually made the insomnia worse. The addiction part I have no words to even come close to describing it. God bless your brother and I hope he finds his way it is so very very hard.

I do think about MJ being and acctive addict or not the demerol to me say's that he was going for short spurt's for a good night's sleep and minor withdrawl's in the day's following manageable if you will. If he was a hardcore abusing opidates again when he was out he would be down for day's, my experience I was in W/d of some sort for at least a month. But I was barely able to focus enough to get to work everyday and back home. To me the evidence of that just wasnt there at all the half life of Demerol perco's is 8 hrs i believe I could be off on that, but in 8 hrs he would have already been in hardcore W/D certainly not be at rehersal that day in any good shape. That rehersal was good if I remember right.

Also I here so many saying wow to how much benxo's ect that DrM had given to him, but I can say that I have done my share of benzo lunesta over taking (never to that extent) but a large amount (I do not do that anymore) and was wide awake didnt even come close to putting me to sleep.
I can give you a funny and pathetic kind of story...Lunesta sleep medicine but it is classified uner a halucnigne well I take 3 mg tablets one particular night I was so exhausted well if one isnt working let's try 3 that should put me down uhhhhhh incorrect Bash I was still wide awake and thought that the neighbors daughter who is a cheerleader in HS must have done something cause I watched a group of kids TeePee their house and was giggling about the mess the next day. Ahhh guess what the sun comes up and nothing that was all a halucunation LOL no sleep but had one hell of a ride I can laugh about it now but at the time I was sweet freakin Jesus I am losing my mind. Yea Bash doesnt do that anymore.

 

[borndem]

Has anyone noticed the times on here? It's EST, right?
I think the "clock" hasn't been changed yet.
Or I'm just confused! AFAIK, I'm now 2 hours behind NY.

The time here is a 3 hours difference from my time..

You may want to go check your profile on WS, peace -- you can set it nearly any way you wanna -- and if you didn't have it set to include DST (and the "switchback" is included with it), that may be why your time is addled.

 

[borndem]

Last night Vinnie had some exerts from the documentary Murray has been working on during the trial. I could not watch Murray speaking, he skeeves me out. Vinnie had a lawyer on that said California did away with the Son of Sam laws in 2002 so it is legal for Murray to make money off of this documentary.

I am sure that is what he said. I hope this is wrong, or that I heard wrong because it is just wrong that Murray is making money off of any part of this.

bbm
Ohhhh, Thundar. It is just wrong, wrong, wrong. That money-grubber.

All the more reason for MJ's dad's Wrongful Death suit to be executed and CM laid low by it!! (No idea where it is, legally, at this time.)

 

[borndem]

Dr. Murray interview:

http://www.newsday.com/entertainmen...day-jackson-was-desperate-for-sleep-1.3307923

Now, when do you suppose this took place?

That whole interview is just one whoppin' plate of hogwash. :maddening:

 

[peace9274]

Hi Bash... :seeya:

Your post brought tears to my eyes as I read about your struggles and how difficult it was for you to give up pain & sleep meds.
I'm so glad you shared with us your understanding of what MJ went through with his insomnia and his past drug abuse/addictions.
I really admire you and feel so honored that you were able to confide in us.

Oceanblueeyes and Credence have expressed so well in their words exactly what I'm feeling and what I wish I could say.
So, instead of copying both of their wonderful comments, I'll just add that I'm so happy that your worst days of struggling are over.
And I'm so happy to see you're doing so well and on the road to recovery. I wish you the best of luck and happiness as you continue.

 

[peace9274]

You may want to go check your profile on WS, peace -- you can set it nearly any way you wanna -- and if you didn't have it set to include DST (and the "switchback" is included with it), that may be why your time is addled.

OK. Well, I went to my profile and spent quite a bit of time looking over every single itty bitty part of it for the "Time Set" thing. I did NOT see it!!!

:banghead: :furious: :banghead: :furious: :banghead: :furious: :banghead:

 

[borndem]

OH --- I too will be watching it!!! I want to hear what CM has to say now, just like I wanted CM to testify.
It was somewhat amusing, to me, hearing him talk and tell what really happened to MJ, during the interview with LE.

Yes... I do want to hear all the lies that Michael Jackson can not dispute, and more lies about what
happened & how MJ praised him & adored him & wanted him to be the big honcho at MJ's future Children's Hospital ...
and I really want to see the fake emotions and tone of voice and his sad sad expressions. Poor Conrad Murray!

Sociopaths, with narcissistic traits, are really very interesting to watch...
and it can be very funny (as long as no one is being harmed) once they've been diagnosed!!
(Not fun to be conned by one, tho!!!)

It's amazing when you're "on to them"... watching the games they play and what all they try to get away with.
And hearing the outlandish tales they tell!

They never ever ever believe they have been diagnosed with a sociopathic personality disorder (AKA anti-social personality D/O)...
so they never feel that you are "on to them" because they think you don't believe it either... and so, believe their lies!


I want there to be more ammunition for press to use against Conrad Murray. I feel the documentary will do just that. Poor Conrad Murray!

I know I'll be setting myself up for knots in my stomach, a throbbing headache, and to be boiling mad angry! But it'll be worth it!!!

Well, of course I'll be watching, too! And knowing, as you're said, peace, that I will get stompin' mad at the glad-handing, silver-tonged good physician. My only problem is that DH will probably watch it, too, so I will have to contain my rants to below 80 -- 85db. No loud screams or rants -- the hubby's back in town. So I will have to act nicely.

He already thinks I'm a bit nuts on this trial stuff :crazy: -- but when it's on, he watches.... but I would never remind him that he is also interested!!!

And there is no limit to where CM will go with his self-serving comments. And jailhouse cheese sandwiches prolly don't help....

We'll have to discuss when it's over. It's hard to stop a sociopathic narcissist from talking to the lesser humans.

 

[Credence]

Good afternoon all

Dang it. I guess you all did not see the interview with Savannah Guthrie and CM this morning.


Savannah said CM met with her a few days before the verdict came in and this is separate from the documentary airing on MSNBC Fri. nite

CM claims he had no idea he was hired to give MJ propofol and said he was trying to keep MJ from doing it to himself. Such BS. We know even when used in the past he NEVER gave it to himself but had an anesthesiologist administer it and monitor him.

Guthrie also asked him about that recording and he said it was incidental; a mistake and he had no idea he had recorded it until it was played in court. He also said MJ had been under the influence of propofol that he had given him. I am presuming it was as MJ was waking up.

So much for the TH's saying he wouldn't have sounded like that from propofol. I always thought that is what it was and he had been recorded while coming out of it. Some people tend to think you just can wake up and be 100% coherent and that is simply not the case.

Of course he said when he found out MJ wanted propofol he couldn't leave because he would have been abandoning a friend and he loved MJ. (Where is the bucket?)

Savannah also asked him about knowing about other doctors with the prescriptions that were there and he said he could not stop MJ from seeing any other doctor. He said MJ was deceptive

That was the gist of it. She is doing another segment tomorrow morning.

 

[Credence]

OK. Well, I went to my profile and spent quite a bit of time looking over every single itty bitty part of it for the "Time Set" thing. I did NOT see it!!!

:banghead: :furious: :banghead: :furious: :banghead: :furious: :banghead:

Hi peace -

1. Go to your User CP
2. On left hand side you will see a heading Settings & Options
3. Click on Edit Options
4. Scroll down to bottom of that page and you will see Date & Time Options
5. Select your region with drop down menu
6. DST Correction Option - from drop down menu select "Automatically detect DST settings.
7. Scroll down further and click on Save Changes

Hope this helps

 

[21merc7]

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/45237925#45237925

Here's a link to part of the interview from the Today Show

 

[borndem]

I don't think I could stomach watching CM's documentary/reality (his reality) show. I suspect it to be a fictional story based very loosely on any facts and nothing that can be verified. It's a mystery to me why anyone would pay him for such nonsense.

Well, Talina - As you know, P.T. Barnum had it right: "There's a sucker born every minute"

And I guess he still has a gaggle of folks who still think he walks on water. So for them, it should be "Wunnerful, just wunnerful."

 

[Talina]

Good afternoon all

Dang it. I guess you all did not see the interview with Savannah Guthrie and CM this morning.


Savannah said CM met with her a few days before the verdict came in and this is separate from the documentary airing on MSNBC Fri. nite

CM claims he had no idea he was hired to give MJ propofol and said he was trying to keep MJ from doing it to himself. Such BS. We know even when used in the past he NEVER gave it to himself but had an anesthesiologist administer it and monitor him.

Guthrie also asked him about that recording and he said it was incidental; a mistake and he had no idea he had recorded it until it was played in court. He also said MJ had been under the influence of propofol that he had given him. I am presuming it was as MJ was waking up.

So much for the TH's saying he wouldn't have sounded like that from propofol. I always thought that is what it was and he had been recorded while coming out of it. Some people tend to think you just can wake up and be 100% coherent and that is simply not the case.

Of course he said when he found out MJ wanted propofol he couldn't leave because he would have been abandoning a friend and he loved MJ. (Where is the bucket?)

Savannah also asked him about knowing about other doctors with the prescriptions that were there and he said he could not stop MJ from seeing any other doctor. He said MJ was deceptive

That was the gist of it. She is doing another segment tomorrow morning.

Well...I guess he failed to share that with Flanagan. Remember when JVM asked Flanagan about the recording and he said something to the effect of "well that's what happens to MJ when Dr. Murray isn't there to take care of him"....Hogwash. I'd like to see that clip played to Flanagan and then his response to JVM..then ask him what he has to say now? hmmm?

IMO

 

[MsBashterd]

Thanxs to all for the kind words and support. I usually stay pretty quite about my troubles, interestingly enough talking about them cause's alot of panic attacks and can bring down a episode of epic porportion on my head. That is why I refer to it as a very isolating condition.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/45237925#45237925

Here's a link to part of the interview from the Today Show

:banghead:
LIstening to this makes me angry well angrier. I guess he can babble about this and that all he wants to. But quite simply MJ was addicted to SLEEP and or not sleeping. MJ needed a specialist not heart doctor. Plain and simple DrM was paid to give MJ this drug, he can sugar coat in anyway he wants too. As bizzare as that all sounds a person deprived of simple sleep for long periods of time does not think like other people he needed help and did not get it from DrM from anyone really and because of that he is dead. Ohhhh Bash is angry exlpoding in 5...4......3......:furious:

 

[borndem]

Yes I am too. From my understanding HIPPA laws apply after death as well. If the documentary violates those laws; no doubt the estate will file a lawsuit against the producers as well as CM. I don't think enough of what will air has been made public for that determination to be made at this time.

Agreed, Credence! And I don't think the estate attys nor the family will let even one little offense by CM go unnoticed or un-litigated.

 

[Talina]

I can't fathom that CM actually expects people to believe that he had no idea he was being hired to administer propofol to MJ. He started ordering propofol in April for crying out loud!!! :banghead:

I can't remember when he said he had his first meeting with MJ about going to London with him but if the discussion about Propofol happened after that, then he had plenty of time to back out of the arrangement. They didn't even start working on the AEG contract with Murray/AEG until long after his first order of Propofol. What a liar he is and he just doesn't stop, it seems. :furious:

IMO

 

[Talina]

I would really like for Judge Pastor to slap a contempt of court violation on CM due to these interviews obviously happening before he vacated his gag order. It doesn't matter that they weren't aired prior to the verdict and vacating the gag order. The fact is, they happened during the gag order and the media was still getting leaks from "sources close to the defense" yada yada yada.

 

[peace9274]

Hi peace -

1. Go to your User CP
2. On left hand side you will see a heading Settings & Options
3. Click on Edit Options
4. Scroll down to bottom of that page and you will see Date & Time Options
5. Select your region with drop down menu
6. DST Correction Option - from drop down menu select "Automatically detect DST settings.
7. Scroll down further and click on Save Changes

Hope this helps

Thank. You. Credence!

It worked!

BTW: It wasn't at my "UserCP" last night when I looked!
I think the dog ate it and a mod just put a new one up for me this morning.

 

[Talina]

http://www.khou.com/news/local/Atto...-death-devastated-by-verdict---133577283.html

Chernoff is Murray’s lead defense attorney. He exchanged brief words with his client before the verdict was read.

“Dr. Murray turned to me and said, ‘have faith.’ I said, ‘faith and God is one thing, faith in human beings is a whole different ball game,’” recalled Chernoff.

 

[MsBashterd]

http://www.khou.com/news/local/Atto...-death-devastated-by-verdict---133577283.html


“Dr. Murray turned to me and said, ‘have faith.’ I said, ‘faith and God is one thing, faith in human beings is a whole different ball game,’” recalled Chernoff.

WOW anyone else wish that Chernoff would have been there to whisper that pearl of wisdom into MJ's ear before this quack slapped a pee cup and sliced up bag with a sliced rubber stopper on a drug that can KILL YOU inserted inside with an openline into MJ and then FREAKIN ABANDONED him to die alone!!!!!

Is there a nuclear smiley somewhere out there I really need one stat LOL!!!