GUILTY Conrad Murray Case - After The Trial & Verdict

[Thundar]

Oh heck, I will probably watch the stupid interview too. I don't know why because it will just make me angry all over again. When I listen to any of these things Murray's voice makes me want to slap something.

I can't figure out if he really believes the things he says or whether he is such a bser that he believes he can make the people listening believe what he says. That was a little convoluted!

In a couple of the blurbs I have heard the interviewers try to ask the hard questions and Murray keeps going around in circles like he did during the LE interview. I don't think anyone will get any pertinent information out of this guy unless they shake him up or hold him upside down.

But I will probably sit and try to listen, just in case something comes out that might justify what he did to his patient. I don't care how many times Murray calls MJ his friend, MJ was Murray's patient.

I would like to think that I would not abandon my friends like Murray did to MJ. But then I would NOT be giving any of my friends medication that would kill them, I would send them to a doctor. That doctor/friend relationship deal that Murray uses to try and justify what he did is the biggest bullcrap of this situation. Even in the small community I live in there is a big disconnect between doctors/patients and friends even in social situations.

Wow this turned into a Murray vent. I am still angry that Murray made money off of these interviews. It just is not right.

 

[21merc7]

 

[MsBashterd]

Bless you Merc Bless you :great:

 

[Isabelle]

Good afternoon all

Dang it. I guess you all did not see the interview with Savannah Guthrie and CM this morning.


Savannah said CM met with her a few days before the verdict came in and this is separate from the documentary airing on MSNBC Fri. nite

CM claims he had no idea he was hired to give MJ propofol and said he was trying to keep MJ from doing it to himself. Such BS. We know even when used in the past he NEVER gave it to himself but had an anesthesiologist administer it and monitor him.

Guthrie also asked him about that recording and he said it was incidental; a mistake and he had no idea he had recorded it until it was played in court. He also said MJ had been under the influence of propofol that he had given him. I am presuming it was as MJ was waking up.

So much for the TH's saying he wouldn't have sounded like that from propofol. I always thought that is what it was and he had been recorded while coming out of it. Some people tend to think you just can wake up and be 100% coherent and that is simply not the case.

Of course he said when he found out MJ wanted propofol he couldn't leave because he would have been abandoning a friend and he loved MJ. (Where is the bucket?)

Savannah also asked him about knowing about other doctors with the prescriptions that were there and he said he could not stop MJ from seeing any other doctor. He said MJ was deceptive

That was the gist of it. She is doing another segment tomorrow morning.

I wouldn't believe Murray didn't know he recorded Michael. I wouldn't believe it in a million years. Bet there is another cell phone somewhere with pics and more recordings that haven't been found yet. What a monster!

 

[borndem]

I really hope this is nothing more than someone trying to get their 15 minutes of fame by exaggerating something one of the juror's told them after the verdict.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/09/language-barrier-conrad-murray-jury/#.TrrnffLwZbx

Well, again, Talina, another Thank-you -- for this link -- it shows the entire jury questionnaire, as you know, and it's the first time I have seen it in its entirety. Thanks!

 

[Credence]

I can't fathom that CM actually expects people to believe that he had no idea he was being hired to administer propofol to MJ. He started ordering propofol in April for crying out loud!!! :banghead:

I can't remember when he said he had his first meeting with MJ about going to London with him but if the discussion about Propofol happened after that, then he had plenty of time to back out of the arrangement. They didn't even start working on the AEG contract with Murray/AEG until long after his first order of Propofol. What a liar he is and he just doesn't stop, it seems. :furious:

IMO

Maybe it is just me, but also watching that interview I did not think Guthrie's questions were strong enough and she failed to follow up on a couple of them. I would love to interview him. The more he talks; the more he lies,

Anyway all self-serving and still believe he wanted to get his "story" out; should have done so on the stand and subjected to cross by Walgren.

Savannah was way too nice and the questions were not tough enough.

 

[joe jones]

there has been an interview with CM on C4 in England this evening (done pre the verdict) and then a documentary that followed him from pre trial to verdict

a few very interesting snippets, Flannagan and Chernoff pre the cross of Dr Shaffer (sp) where Flannagan told Chernoff to fu## you, as they disagree on the cross, Flanagan wanted to go after him over the science and Chernoff did not, Chernoff was living with Flanagan and his wife but moved out the night before cross after the spat and he then did the cross,

also CM was pizzed at Flanagans cross of the expert Drs and how useless he was coming across

also Flanagan and Murray thought they may lose even though they said CM was innocent

CM is theatrical, he said MJ told him he had never had a friend and CM was his only friend, but towards the end he began to blame MJ for his predicament

he also said the boss of AEG (his name I forgot) told him at the meeting they had to discuss MJs heath, that MJ had no money, that AEG was bankrolling him, and without the concerts MJ would have no money and would be homeless, he apparently used lots of swear words in this conversation (the AEG man I mean)

 

[Credence]

I wouldn't believe Murray didn't know he recorded Michael. I wouldn't believe it in a million years. Bet there is another cell phone somewhere with pics and more recordings that haven't been found yet. What a monster!

I so agree with you. He just really makes me sick!!!! :banghead:

 

[Credence]

there has been an interview with CM on C4 in England this evening (done pre the verdict) and then a documentary that followed him from pre trial to verdict

a few very interesting snippets, Flannagan and Chernoff pre the cross of Dr Shaffer (sp) where Flannagan told Chernoff to fu## you, as they disagree on the cross, Flanagan wanted to go after him over the science and Chernoff did not, Chernoff was living with Flanagan and his wife but moved out the night before cross after the spat and he then did the cross,

also CM was pizzed at Flanagans cross of the expert Drs and how useless he was coming across

also Flanagan and Murray thought they may lose even though they said CM was innocent

CM is theatrical, he said MJ told him he had never had a friend and CM was his only friend, but towards the end he began to blame MJ for his predicament

he also said the boss of AEG (his name I forgot) told him at the meeting they had to discuss MJs heath, that MJ had no money, that AEG was bankrolling him, and without the concerts MJ would have no money and would be homeless, he apparently used lots of swear words in this conversation (the AEG man I mean)

Thanks Joe. I am presuming this is the interview that Part I aired here this AM and Part II will air tomorrow morning. The documentary is airing here in the US tomorrow night on MSNBC.

Are you in England or were you able to watch it online?

 

[joe jones]

Thanks Joe. I am presuming this is the interview that Part I aired here this AM and Part II will air tomorrow morning. The documentary is airing here in the US tomorrow night on MSNBC.

Are you in England or were you able to watch it online?

am in England, the interview was on immediately before the documentary, in the interview he was combative, argumentative, defensive, in the doco he was sad, softer spoken, less in your face, more oh woe is me, as Walgren said Poor CM

the difference in his persona between interview and doco is striking

 

[Credence]

am in England, the interview was on immediately before the documentary, in the interview he was combative, argumentative, defensive, in the doco he was sad, softer spoken, less in your face, more oh woe is me, as Walgren said Poor CM

the difference in his persona between interview and doco is striking

Thanks and interesting about the difference in his demeanor -- will make sure I watch it.

 

[borndem]

OH --- I too will be watching it!!! I want to hear what CM has to say now, just like I wanted CM to testify.
It was somewhat amusing, to me, hearing him talk and tell what really happened to MJ, during the interview with LE.

Yes... I do want to hear all the lies that Michael Jackson can not dispute, and more lies about what
happened & how MJ praised him & adored him & wanted him to be the big honcho at MJ's future Children's Hospital ...
and I really want to see the fake emotions and tone of voice and his sad sad expressions. Poor Conrad Murray!

Sociopaths, with narcissistic traits, are really very interesting to watch...
and it can be very funny (as long as no one is being harmed) once they've been diagnosed!!
(Not fun to be conned by one, tho!!!)

It's amazing when you're "on to them"... watching the games they play and what all they try to get away with.
And hearing the outlandish tales they tell!

They never ever ever believe they have been diagnosed with a sociopathic personality disorder (AKA anti-social personality D/O)...
so they never feel that you are "on to them" because they think you don't believe it either... and so, believe their lies!


I want there to be more ammunition for press to use against Conrad Murray. I feel the documentary will do just that. Poor Conrad Murray!

I know I'll be setting myself up for knots in my stomach, a throbbing headache, and to be boiling mad angry! But it'll be worth it!!!

Well, peace, my advice would be to just take a couple of Valium (that's diazepam, Ma'am), and you'll sail right through it!!

You see, I know this doctor -- a fine, smart, well-respected cardiologist who would probably write you a scrip for it -- he has a bit of an accent, but you shold be able to communicate pretty easily -- he's very good at talking himself, er, ah, that would be talking about himself.

 

[Thundar]

I heard an interesting tidbit on the radio on the way home tonight. Apparently an auction house in Los Angeles is selling some things from MJs Carrollwood home including what is being advertised as the deathbed, a chalkboard from the kitchen that has a handwritten note saying "I love you daddy," and other things that weren't described in the report.

I wonder who is selling these items? I don't have a doubt that someone will buy them.

 

[borndem]

OK KIDS... it's time for another plug!!

I know. I know. I said no more. But I can't help myself!!!

My son Christopher just posted at FB, that he'll be involved in the production of an Occupy Wall Street Documentary Film.
He'll be moderating a discussion that "...will include many award winning documentary producers, directors, musicians and editors...
as well as PR people and distributors."

(If you go to this linked site and scroll down, the film makers & 2 others are there, my son being one of them. Old photo though!)

http://www.uniondocs.org/november-15-2011-occupy-wall-street-collaborative-film/

Oooooh, and I, too, am certainly old enuff to be his mother, but I must say, looking at those "bedroom eyes" of his.... He's Hot, Mom!! That pic showed him with that sultry look.... hard to resist. He's just plain cute and huggable. Very fine man.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I am so offended that killers are now given a platform to tell even more lies.

FGS! What in the hell has happened to our society.

I have watched snippets of the interview and it makes me want to hurl.

No wonder this man did not take the stand in his behalf.

He said it was working perfectly well for three days without the propofol and in the next breath he says MJ was telling him propofol was the only thing that worked.:innocent: So which is it? It worked and he got great sleep or you were actually giving him propopfol the entire three days just like the months before and that is why MJ tells you it is the only thing that works? Because it makes no sense what you say, Murray.

Los Angeles -- Michael Jackson's last words were a plea for more propofol, "because that was the only thing" that would put him to sleep, Dr. Conrad Murray said in an interview aired on NBC's "Today" show Thursday.

Contradiction after contradiction.

If MJ was just sleeping:innocent: not under the influence of propofol any longer then why were YOU still even there, Murray?

I wonder if he is even aware what a bad liar he is? Most narcissist don't, they actually believe people will believe them.

Deception?:furious: Oh Doc Murray knows all too well how to be deceptive. :furious:

MJ is a perfect target. Only one man was left standing to tell what happen and when only one side of the story is told the truth is NEVER revealed!

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I heard an interesting tidbit on the radio on the way home tonight. Apparently an auction house in Los Angeles is selling some things from MJs Carrollwood home including what is being advertised as the deathbed, a chalkboard from the kitchen that has a handwritten note saying "I love you daddy," and other things that weren't described in the report.

I wonder who is selling these items? I don't have a doubt that someone will buy them.

The mansion came completely furnished so the owner of the mansion is having these items auctioned off.

You are right, anything remotely connected to Michael Jackson is like having a gold mine.

IMO

 

[peace9274]

I heard an interesting tidbit on the radio on the way home tonight. Apparently an auction house in Los Angeles is selling some things from MJs Carrollwood home including what is being advertised as the deathbed, a chalkboard from the kitchen that has a handwritten note saying "I love you daddy," and other things that weren't described in the report.

I wonder who is selling these items? I don't have a doubt that someone will buy them.

Thanx, Thundar. I wonder, too, who is holding the auction & who gave the items to them.
And I agree there will certainly be bidders & buyers!

I doubt very much it's the Jackson family members trying to raise money.
Even though it's been said that MJ was deep in debt, his estate has grown tremendously since his death.

I read that his executors estimate the business of Michael Jackson could generate about $50 million to $100 million annually.
Plus he has a lot of assets & his part interest in SONY.

I tend to think it's the owner of the house that MJ had rented on Carolwood Dr in LA.

MJ's family probably took everything they wanted of MJ's and left the rest for the owner to dispose of which ever way he chose.

 

[peace9274]

Thanx, Thundar. I wonder, too, who is holding the auction & who gave the items to them.
And I agree there will certainly be bidders & buyers!

I doubt very much it's the Jackson family members trying to raise money.
Even though it's been said that MJ was deep in debt, his estate has grown tremendously since his death.

I read that his executors estimate the business of Michael Jackson could generate about $50 million to $100 million annually.
Plus he has a lot of assets & his part interesyt in SONY.

I tend to think it's the owner of the house that MJ had rented on Carolwood Dr in LA.

MJ's family probably took everything they wanted of MJ's and left the rest for the owner to dispose of which ever way he chose.

I just found an article, but haven't read it yet.. about the contents of MJ's house to be sold.

This will surely tell us who's selling the items:

http://www.thegrio.com/entertainment/contents-of-michael-jacksons-final-home-for-sale.php

 

[peace9274]

The mansion MJ lived in at 100 Carolwood Dr and it's furnishings were all rented by MJ.

Nowhere is MJ's name to be used in order to increase the value of the items up for bid at auction.

In case any of you are interested in bidding on something, here is the catalogue with some of the items listed that will be auctioned off.

http://www.juliensauctions.com/auctions/2011/100-north-carolwood-drive/index.html

 

[oceanblueeyes]

The mansion MJ lived in at 100 Carolwood Dr and it's furnishings were all rented by MJ.

Nowhere is MJ's name to be used in order to increase the value of the items up for bid at auction.

In case any of you are interested in bidding on something, here is the catalogue with some of the items listed that will be auctioned off.

http://www.juliensauctions.com/auctions/2011/100-north-carolwood-drive/index.html

This is probably the headboard that was in the guest room.

Fine antique furniture includes an elaborately carved and gilded Louis XV headboard (est. $3,000 - $4,000);