Conrad Murray trial -Day five.

[Talina]

Dr. Murray said he had not given MJ any other medication.

 

[Thundar]

When Dr. Nguyen got to the trauma room, Dr. Murray introduced himself to her as Mr. Jackson's private physician. When she asked what had happened, he told her Mr. Jackson was rehearsing for a tour was very tired and had been asking him for help sleeping. He told her had given 4 milligrams of ativan (sp) intravenously (another name for Lorazepam (sp)) and he told her he had given no other med. The cardiologist asked what time and he couldn't remember. He told her that he left briefly and he went back and the patient was not breathing. She asked him what time was that and he said he did not know. She asked him from the time he noticed the patient was down from the time EMS was called how much time and he said he did not know.

That really looks bad for Murray. Yes mam I am Mr. Jackson's personal physician, I was there with him, no mam I have no concept of time or drug amounts.

 

[Talina]

Dr. Nyugen "it was not a matter of too little, too late. It was a matter of too late." She said she was very concerned that Dr. Murray could not give any specific time intervals of anything she asked regarding medication or how long MJ had been down before he called EMS.

Noon recess.

 

[Talina]

That really looks bad for Murray. Yes mam I am Mr. Jackson's personal physician, I was there with him, no mam I have no concept of time or drug amounts.

I totally agree with that.

ETA: I wonder how it is that when he was giving his statements later to detectives that he seemed to then be able to recall some specific times that he administered various medications.

 

[HatesSociopaths]

Biggest thing to me is he didn't tell her about the propofol.

 

[borndem]

Defense just asked about the condom catheter and if there was any urine visable. Witness said no urine. Then asked if they would have taken the urine for testing. Witness said yes.

Defense is finally done for now.

Somebody needs to get this poor man out from under the bus under which he has just thrown himself.....:boohoo:

 

[Thundar]

I totally agree with that.

ETA: I wonder how it is that when he was giving his statements later to detectives that he seemed to then be able to recall some specific times that he administered various medications.

Maybe he looked at his cell phone bills and went for the time between calls and texts.

 

[21merc7]

Why didn't he tell them about the propofol? His patient was dead, it was going to become common knowledge, soon. Why did he not think critically, to tell a more experienced doctor in the moment he noticed, by calling 911? The EMT's, what did he tell them he gave MJ, the lorazepam? No times recalled?

I know the answers to all of these questions, he was trying to cover his behind. The jurors must be thinking the same things. Great time for a lunch break, leave them thinking about all of these things and the statement "it was too late." Not a good day for Dr. Murray.

Thank you again, and again, for keeping us posted everyone! :blowkiss:

 

[Soulmagent]

Somebody needs to get this poor man out from under the bus under which he has just thrown himself.....:boohoo:

Not me ,he owns the bus. Built it with his own hands. If he wants to park it on hisself ,who am i to stop him.

 

[Thundar]

Biggest thing to me is he didn't tell her about the propofol.

Did he tell anyone at any time about the propofol? Or did he admit it after he was confronted with the blood test findings from the autopsy? I have only half followed this until the trial started.

 

[borndem]

What he is trying to do here is to split the guilt. If he can make her look like she is the slightest bit incompetent or that the treatment may have been in the least inadequate he can mitigate his client's guilt somewhat. So the question about what time she talked to Dr. or how often she talked to him is very unfair.

I've been in codes. They record times when treatment was given. But things are so tense and moving so rapidly that any extraneous activity barely gets noticed and definitely they don't know what time it happened.

bbm It's not working too good so far!!!!!!!

And the good doc is having none of it...

rbm ITA -- he's hoping most folks wouldn't think about that aspect. (That probably won't work too good, either!!!!!

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[borndem]

Under the influence of 'stupid'!

And obviously this near-overdose of stupid was administered by our own Dr. Murray, and without proper monitoring or resuscitation equipment....

 

[2goaliemom]

Did he tell anyone at any time about the propofol? Or did he admit it after he was confronted with the blood test findings from the autopsy? I have only half followed this until the trial started.

I don't think Propofol was mentioned until 2 days later when he was interviewed (with his attorney) by LE--that's when he gives more detail about what was given to MJ on the 25th.

Allegedly given rather--what Murray says he gave MJ and the autopsy do not match.

 

[HatesSociopaths]

I don't think Propofol was mentioned until 2 days later when he was interviewed (with his attorney) by LE--that's when he gives more detail about what was given to MJ on the 25th.

Was he giving more detail because he was confronted with evidence that Propofol was given, or was this a sudden streak of honesty?

 

[Thundar]

I don't think Propofol was mentioned until 2 days later when he was interviewed (with his attorney) by LE--that's when he gives more detail about what was given to MJ on the 25th.

So if he would had told the Er Drs about the propofol use would he have been detained at the hospital at that time? He left the hospital and thought about it, got a lawyer, and only then admitted what he had administered to his now dead patient? I suppose the lawyer explained that they would find the propofol in the autopsy anyway so he might as well admit it.

Strange, strange timing. Telling the emts that he felt a pulse so MJ would get transferred to the ER. Then being a presence in the Er but not really stepping forward and being a DR. Then hiking out of the hospital as soon as possible.

 

[borndem]

In interduced himself as MJ private doctor to the winess

Witness states ,,,

Murray told her he had been very tired ,he replied Avaitan IV when asked if he had given micheal any medican.

What time was the Ativan given he didnt know.
next he said he left and when he came back MJ wasnt breathing and he wasnt able to tell the doctor the time when he noticed he wasnt breathing.

She said he said he had no idea about time he wasnt good with time.(what?)

Yes, in-dayam-deedy, he wasn't too good with time. ... He sure let little MJ down -- yes, Mouseketeers, he's earning that $150K/month, huh?

And that one statement may be the first time he's told the truth.

How did MJ survive with this MD as long as he did??? Arrrrrggghhhh!

:maddening:

 

[borndem]

Dr. Murray said he had not given MJ any other medication.

:liar: : :liar: : :liar: : :liar: : :liar: : :liar:

Somebody bring a bucket of water, quickly!!! The Doctor's pants are on fire!!!:furious:

 

[Talina]

Was he giving more detail because he was confronted with evidence that Propofol was given, or was this a sudden streak of honesty?

I've wondered the very same thing. I didn't follow this in the news as it was happening so I have no idea as to the timing of the admission of the drugs he gave versus the timing of the toxicology report.

 

[CarolinaMoon]

I hope that we get to the people who talked to Dr. Murray in the critical times soon. I also wonder if their phone records will be introduced prior to their testimony.

 

[Talina]

LOL I know this is not comic relief at all but I am getting tickled by the testimony on the cross examination between Dr. Nguyen and Mr. Flanagan. He asks a question and she elaborates more than the exact question and it is not good in his favor at all.