Conrad Murray Trial - Day Twenty Two

[octobermoon]

Dr. Shafer back on the stand.

 

[borndem]

When this trial is over, I expect to see this skit on SNL.

They wouldn't dare hit it too hard -- but they wouldn't have to.

CM trying to get his finger caught in the sink faucet in the loo to prevent his timely exit & failing. CM running into walls, CM swallowing the IV line. CM pulling down his pants to REALLY stash something, CM throwing his watch out the window. CM calling Domino's pizza. CM trying to find med equipment in the closet shelves & finding some of MJ's gold records and silver gloves & trying them on. CM finding a vacuum cleaner & putting that in the B/R. CM finding a magic wand & trying to see if it might be used as an oral thermometer.

Back to it.......Surprise. Our man Shafer is here.

 

[outofstatelawyer]

Ted Rowlands said his cameraman asked White how the testimony went and White said he thought it was "OK", and then asked how Walgren's cross was, and White said "Not that bad". *eyes rolling back in my head*

 

[Credence]

Here we go !!!! State is recalling Dr. Shafer for rebuttal.

 

[peace9274]

Omg on HLN Dr. White is on tape hanging out with the Murray supporters, standing right in front of a preprinted sign that Walgren "altered" evidence? OMG he may be charged with a third contempt.

GRRRR all that's on HLN here is a local news break.

It's that kind of excitement, White out with supporters...
& the protestors and the arguing in court and watching
CM's bald patches and .... that keeps me watching here!

 

[octobermoon]

Defense rested.

 

[Talina]

Ted Rowlands said his cameraman asked White how the testimony went and White said he thought it was "OK", and then asked how Walgren's cross was, and White said "Not that bad". *eyes rolling back in my head*

I just really don't know what to think about Dr. White. He has absolutely no respect for the judge's orders.

 

[outofstatelawyer]

Shafer's collar is f'd up today.

 

[borndem]

IMO, the only thing the jury needs is a cause & method of death. THis has been implied, but not stated non-categorically. I think they need this.

 

[outofstatelawyer]

I just really don't know what to think about Dr. White. He has absolutely no respect for the judge's orders.

It makes me think $1000 wasn't enough!

 

[Credence]

Oh Talina -- so he did talk about the lidocaine -- saying some propofol could have been removed and replaced by lidocaine

 

[Talina]

Dr. Shafer does such a much better job of explaining things to a jury. He doesn't come across as someone who needs to impress with the words he uses but instead uses words that laymen can understand.

 

[outofstatelawyer]

Dr. Shafer does such a much better job of explaining things to a jury. He doesn't come across as someone who needs to impress with the words he uses but instead uses words that laymen can understand.

Everyone except Jane Velez-Mitchell. She says she doesn't understand any of this, LOL.

 

[CarolinaMoon]

Hmmm... research Ornelles (sp?) used was 14 years out of date? Ouchie for the defense!

 

[EPfan]

Every place I have worked, hospitals, clinics, doc's offices, home setting...
whoever has the narc keys (the med nurse) never never ever gives them to someone else,
including another nurse and/or doctor, without counting all the meds in the narcotic box first.

Doctors must follow all narcotic regulations the same way nurses & pharmacists do.
All their narcotic sheets (which shows the count & to whom the med went to, is supposed
to go back to the pharmacy & collected by FDA.

At home settings, all meds, especially narcotics & controlled drugs, are kept locked in a
"tackle box" and the keys are worn around the wrist or neck... (like in the hospital or clinic)....
and are still counted and accounted for, with the on-coming nursing staff.

Doctors know all this and they know that they can't enter the narc box nor ask the med nurse for the keys.

At one of the places I worked, when the med nurse wanted a break, she just handed the narc
& other med keys to the charge nurse, without counting the meds together.

Then it was discovered that a nurse in that hosp was stealing narcotics when relieving nurses
for their breaks. Policy began that narcs be counted even before and after the med nurses' breaks.

I don't know if they are suppose to but Hospice leaves medication for the family after they leave. They leave pain medication like Morphine. This has happened every time I have every been involved with Hospice. I think they all do it but don't disclose it because they shouldn't . This is what happends in the real world, I guess.

 

[octobermoon]

I don't know if they are suppose to but Hospice leaves medication for the family after they leave. They leave pain medication like Morphine. This has happened every time I have every been involved with Hospice. I think they all do it but don't disclose it because they shouldn't . This is what happends in the real world, I guess.

Yikes, our hospice made me destroy all the drugs that were left over. Even the aroma therapy lotions.

 

[octobermoon]

Hmmm... research Ornelles (sp?) used was 14 years out of date? Ouchie for the defense!

And now we know why they didn't call her to testify. :banghead:

 

[Talina]

Well, Dr. Shafer just totally debunked Dr. White's entire testimony. IMO

 

[borndem]

On IS this morning, they said that one juror was a bio-chemist, and she was also the one who help JP with the next WWWW or VVVV or whatevah on the DT's exhibit. She'd been taking notes & was very attentive.


I have not had any trouble with this chemistry testimony -- although a very hard-earned "C" in my chemistry class in college was one of which I was most glad to get. I was otherwise a good student -- math/calculus, etc., was no problem, although I much preferred Shakespeare.

I'm not bragging, I'm just making the point that I think this jury should also understand Shafer's testimony. If he'd been teaching my chemistry class, who knoze -- maybe an "A" or certainly a "B" !!

 

[peace9274]

Some important facts about David Walgren:

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Walgren is happily married to Deputy District Attorney Nicol Walgren, and the couple have two children