GUILTY Conrad Murray Trial - Verdict Watch

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I just remembered the MJ showed up in his pajamas one day during his child molestation trial (NOT GUILTY) and decided that the King of Pop would be honored to have us wearing pjs while the verdict is read in the CM trial. jmo
 
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Bluesky --just a note on MJ's lungs: There is no injury to his lungs per the autopsy report. Had some scarring and it has been reported that MJ had allergies and had suffered from pneumonia.

I have scarring on my lungs from chronic bronchitis. Don't think it was a big deal.

Maybe Peace or Isabelle could address that.

Hi Credence,

I deleted my post until after the verdict is read but here is a clip from the AR

"The above findings reflect a depletion of structural and functional reserves of the lung. Reserve depletion is the result of widespread respiratory bronchiolitis and chronic lung inflammation in association with fibrocollangenous scars and organizing / recanalizing thromboemboli of small arteries. "It should be noted that the above lung injury with reserve loss is not considered to be a direct or contributing cause of death; however, such an individual would be especially susceptible to adverse health affects but nonetheless what Dr. Klein revealed to JC is very significant because if MJ nose collapsed in the Spring, he had to breathe through his mouth only which could have caused him to stop breathing and therefore contributed to his death.

Here is my original post.... thanks credence

Michael might have asked Dr. Klein for Propofol too but Dr. Klein didn't talk about this at all during his interview.

AFAIK, the medical reports submitted to the Court by Dr. Klein’s office never said Dr. Klein “had began the slow and painful process of rebuilding some of Jackson’s facial skin in early April after his nose collapsed and after he lost his jawline. They only said he received botox and restylane treatments.

Neither did the coroner note in the autopsy report that MJ’s nose and jaw line had collapsed and had recently been repaired. All it says is a piece of tape was attached to it and “there are scars at the lateral border of the alae nasi, 3/5 inch in length on the right and 5/8 inch in length on the left.

The alae nasi is the outer flaring cartilaginous wall of the outer side of each nostril so crucial facts about the condition of Michael’s face and in particular his ability to breathe normally through his nose in the Spring wasn't provided to the Jury members.

MJ likely had to breathe through his mouth ONLY for several months after his nose collapsed and I imagine until Michael’s nose had completely healed and was able to function normally, breathing would be very ‘labored’ and he would tire very easily which are symptomss he said he was having.

A lung injury was noted in the autopsy so if Michael had difficulty breathing through his nose for several months, he wasn't in good health and I think he would be at high risk of dying if his breathing was impaired and he was taking Propofol to induce sleep.

If MJ's nose collapsed and he lost his jaw line and his facial skin needed repaired in April of 2009, how on earth did he pass his medical examination for AEG?

Dr. Klein had an unusual relationship with his patient MJ. Dr. Klein said he worked on MJ's nose and face and left for Paris France for 1 month which is where Michael's daugher Paris was conceived according to her mother Debbie Rowe. It doesn't sound like Dr. Klein consulted with the doctors or clinician who treated MJ after he left which doesn't seem highly ethical to me.

JMO.
 
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If the verdict is not guilty... & that's the reason.. then IMO all the more reason there should be a trial and conviction!!!
To show all doctors they must treat all their patients equally and responsibly... regardless of who they are.

I can't imagine the general public putting up with your reason for NG.

This trial was about CM... and how he was careless, grossly negligent,
and that he deviated from the standard practice of caring for a PATIENT!

I don't think it would be televised or the THs would talk about it... but I sure hope if ANY doctor acted the same as CM,
while treating ME ... and I died because of it... that there would definitely be a trial in a courtroom.

You are so right, Peace! My doctor is hesitant when prescribing antibiotics for fear of over-use. So, for a doctor to go to the point of setting up an IV drip in a patients home and sedating them with such a drug as propofol, seems to defy logic. jmo
 
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Exactly. LMBO :floorlaugh:

If you have cats, remove the turds and sprinkle in some litter deodorizer.


OMG -- LOVE THAT!!!!!!!!!!:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh: Dayam!! The Best!!! whew, it's hot in here
 
  • #466
i don't post much, but have been following the case every day, and reading here. Wanted to say thank you to everyone for all the input, it really has been a great thread..

am hoping he is found guilty. i really can't see how he could be found not guilty.
 
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I just remembered the MJ showed up in his pajamas one day during his child molestation trial (NOT GUILTY) and decided that the King of Pop would be honored to have us wearing pjs while the verdict is read in the CM trial. jmo

Thank you, BetteDavisEyes!!

That's a wonderful reason to stay in our PJ's & nightgowns today.

And any other day, too.
I'm going to use it for the rest of my life, when needed.

Me: "What? What are you staring at? So what it's 4 pm. I'm mourning Michael Jackson."
I love it! :)
 
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Bluesky --just a note on MJ's lungs: There is no injury to his lungs per the autopsy report. Had some scarring and it has been reported that MJ had allergies and had suffered from pneumonia.

I have scarring on my lungs from chronic bronchitis. Don't think it was a big deal.

Maybe Peace or Isabelle could address that.


Michael´s lung issues might have been a result of Murray´s "treatment" of him. When under every night for hours on Propofol, you don´t breathe deeply, and that causes lung problems.
 
  • #470
cnn/live now says, "verdict read shortly". Still panning the camera around at the scenery. I want to see the people out front......please cnn.
 
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Thank you Michael.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egOr3qMKEZk"]Michael Jackson "The Lost Children" - YouTube[/ame]
 
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Ran out to get the mail and put on my "Scotties" pajamas. It's the right thing to do in honor of the King of Pop. jmo
 
  • #476
Wow... look at that crowd. I don't think it'd be a bad idea to clear it.
I am afraid there may be serious riots if this verdict doesn't go the way the people out there want it to.
(I'm guessing the majority are MJ fans.)
 
  • #477
While I am waiting I am looking at this catalog that came in the mail to the Mr. today. It is desserts & gifts. Cookies and bars, they kind of look mass produced not at all like what I make for the holidays (oblong and uneven). But anyway they have a new size....Premiere-195 pieces for $199.99 and included on the front is a free shipping code.

Now I am hungry for cookies.
 
  • #478
JVM is an embarrassment to HLN. She does not act like a professional journalist when she is covering a trial. She belongs on TMZ or some such type station, IMO.
 
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I was dressed, but changed into my "lounging" outfit for the verdict. BTW, if you want commentary and can't stand to listen to JVM, try KTLA link. Click on the watch button and it will appear in a new screen. It's been my favorite.

http://www.ktla.com/
 

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