GUILTY Conrad Murray Trial - Verdict Watch

[borndem]

IMO Mr J was always the brute force behind the jacksons stardom and they were a religious family as well, where IMO, always went the way HE wanted it to be. HIS image and his ego is apparent. He is embarassed by MJ's use of drugs, his reputation being tainted even after death as I hate to say this but believe there is still alot of money to be made off his son and CM gave him the perfect excuse to point the finger even though CM's actions are in reality not right and he should definitely pay a price for it, CM was an enabler of a problem that already existed. MR J's graver problem is that, that reflects on him and his abuse of MJ.

bbm
Thanks, O'soul -- that was my impression, too, of Mr. J. I felt that all of the rest of the J's (mom included) had learned to just let him take charge, period. He obviously worked hard at getting them exposure, and it paid off, but it my experience, most of the time, really big talent surfaces in spite of so many adverse conditions, lack of exposure, etc., etc. We've seen it historically and in our time.

So, anyway, MJ was pushed out there while he was still a little bud on the vine, and he handled it the best way he could.

Until he gave it over to a :snake: and a :rubberducky: (honey, what does a duck say??)

 

[outofstatelawyer]

Oh boy, I see that IS had the Pastor of the Church of the Incarnate Word Salad on again.

 

[peace9274]

did not see Klien interview, anybody give me a brief synopsis of what he said

Interview with Klein: (It's not in order... because for me, the interview is shown in clips.
Klein did the interview, b/c he wanted to let the world know that he did nothing wrong. Klein is very angry.)

"I did not give MJ the amount of demerol the defense said he received. I was out of the country."

"It may have been other independent docs, who work in the same facility that I work. "

"The signatures of other docs, on the doc notes were covered or blackened."

"They pointed the finger at me so they could get CM off.
I'm well known, I'm bigger than life."

"MJ was not addicted to demerol.
I never gave him enough to get him addicted
He would have had to take it every 6 hrs, if he was."

"Propofol should never have been given in the home."


May be added to by others.

 

[Thundar]

Interview with Klein: (It's not in order... because for me, the interview is shown in clips.
Klein did the interview, b/c he wanted to let the world know that he did nothing wrong. Klein is very angry.)

"I did not give MJ the amount of demerol the defense said he received. I was out of the country."

"It may have been other independent docs, who work in the same facility that I work. "

"The signatures of other docs, on the doc notes were covered or blackened."

"They pointed the finger at me so they could get CM off.
I'm well known, I'm bigger than life."

"MJ was not addicted to demerol.
I never gave him enough to get him addicted
He would have had to take it every 6 hrs, if he was."

"Propofol should never have been given in the home."


May be added to by others.

BBM

Did Dr. Klien really say that? Holy Crap, he does have one large ego, doesn't he? I haven't seen any of that interview yet, but I am sure I will if I turn on InSessions at noon. Thanks for posting that part.

 

[21merc7]

BBM

Did Dr. Klien really say that? Holy Crap, he does have one large ego, doesn't he? I haven't seen any of that interview yet, but I am sure I will if I turn on InSessions at noon. Thanks for posting that part.

Psssttt...I think Klien listened to the Beatles more than MJ.....:innocent:

 

[peace9274]

Klein Interview:

"MJ was the most talented person that ever lived."

"He gave joy so to many children... Ryan White, he helped him so much." (and aids awareness, laws, etc)

"He was most happiest giving to people, being with his children.
He was sweet, generous, loving. Just appreciate him and love him when you listen to his music."

Jean Casaras said that Klein said that MJ's family will not talk to him. He's tried to talk to them,
but they refuse to. He does not know why.

MJ had a bedroom in Klein's home. He came for dinner and spent the night.

Klein showed personal photos of MJ, etc.

J Casaras (talking to another TH, not during the interview with Klein):
"He seemed to be somewhat inconsistent, at times.. like when he was talking about when MJ was having his face rebuilt.
He always wanted the very best, so he wanted Dr Klein. So why did MJ go to other docs while Klein was in Europe... ?"

 

[peace9274]

CNNonline has the video up of waiting for the verdict, it's a picture of the courthouse.

They also have an article about today.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/07/justice/california-conrad-murray-trial/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

"Los Angeles (CNN) -- Jurors in the involuntary manslaughter trial of Michael Jackson's doctor returned to the downtown Los Angeles County courthouse for a second day of deliberations Monday."

"Katherine and Joe Jackson, the singer's parents, were expected to wait with other family members at a hotel near the courthouse so they could get there quickly when jurors say they have reached a decision."

Thanks, Thundar...

TMZ has their livestream screen up, also (with the CA great seal).

Here's the link:

http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/07/conrad-murray-michael-jackson-livestream/#.Trgcr0Mg_UA

 

[MsFacetious]

Just housekeeping... wonderful. I really dislike housekeeping.

https://twitter.com/#!/abc7MurrayTrial

Juries just buzzed twice (which could be a questions or break) but bailiff said it was just a matter of housekeeping. Nothing special.

 

[Cortne]

The only thing I noted from the Dr Klein interview was somebody forgot to tell him to remove the marbles from his mouth beforehand.

Shrug

 

[peace9274]

Just housekeeping... wonderful. I really dislike housekeeping.

https://twitter.com/#!/abc7MurrayTrial

Juries just buzzed twice (which could be a questions or break) but bailiff said it was just a matter of housekeeping. Nothing special.

@abc7MurrayTrial
ABC7 Murray Trial

"Jurors buzzed because they needed more toilet paper and paper towels for their bathroom.

They are still deliberating, though. No break yet."

4 minutes ago via Twitter for iPad

 

[MsFacetious]

Literally housekeeping huh?
You would think that someone would just put a case of TP in there and an extra roll of paper towels. At least I would if I was in charge of that.
I would prevent every possible reason for a buzzer that I could think of! Band-aids, drinks, food, toiletries, etc.

 

[peace9274]

Klein Interview:

"MJ never staggered, he never staggered out of my office."

"I am angry.
They tried to destroy my life."

"Where did he find this CM man?"

"We have to look at this, how did this tragedy happen?"

(Klein talks very fast, mumbles a lot, it's hard to keep up with him)

The main things in the interview that Klein stressed:

Klein loved MJ.
He thought MJ was the most caring, most talented, most loving man that ever lived.
Klein waited till jurors went to deliberation, he was angry through-out the trial.
Klein was made scape-goat to get CM off.
Klein was out of US when defense said MJ got demerol from Klein.
MJ was not addicted to demerol.
MJ's family won't talk to Klein. He wishes they would.
MJ was happiest when with his children.

 

[Turtles]

Insession just stated 3 buzzers, possibly a verdict.

 

[CarolinaMoon]

We have a verdict (IS Michael Christian reporting). There were 3 buzzes about a minute ago.

You beat me to it Turtles! I hope it isn't a mistake!

 

[octobermoon]

Three buzzes!!!

 

[peace9274]

"We have a verdict"

 

[cece5300]

Oh my gosh! So we have to wait 2 hours now?

 

[MsFacetious]

Lindsey Lohan did 4 hours of her 30 day sentence.

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2011/11/07/lindsay-lohan-and-out-jail

Even if CM got a full 4 years... he wouldn't do any significant time....

So I guess I can use that to reassure myself if this isn't a guilty verdict... "he wouldn't have done any major time anyway..."

I know... the conviction and all of that would be good, but I'm just preparing in case we have a repeat of Florida.

 

[Turtles]

We have a verdict (IS Michael Christian reporting). There were 3 buzzes about a minute ago.

You beat me to it Turtles! I hope it isn't a mistake!

BBM
Me too, nothing official yet.

 

[Credence]

"We have a verdict"

Keeping my fingers crossed - two hours grrr