Coronavirus COVID-19 *Global Health Emergency* #14

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JMO
From what we have learned so far, the virus can live on surfaces for a limited period of time. The problem is we (and they) really dont know for sure right now until they do extensive studies on the surface survival for Coronavirus, but they are basing their answer to that question on other Flu type viruses of which they have studied that extensively, and the general answer IMO is that this new virus can survive on surfaces for anywhere from 1-7 days or even more depending on the texture, temperature, etc of the surface, so it varies quite a bit, but they also have said, it should normally die off in the first few days.

So, how I am taking that news is that so long as I wipe down the main contact surfaces in the home like refrigerator handles, door knobs, remote controls, oven handles, and any other commonly touched areas, then anything i miss will hopefully die off in a few days.

With that said, if I am getting delivery boxes from anywhere at this point, I will wear gloves to open the box, remove its contents and leave the box outside for garbage pickup. As far as touching the contents, I may even spray it with a disenfectant if I need it immediately or I will let the contents sit for about 5-7 days or more if I dont need it right away.

Hope this helps. Its just my understanding about surface exposure and this virus. JMO of course.
My South Korea package deliverd 1-1/2 weeks ago is still sitting on my front porch. My daughter tried to bring it in today and I threw it back outside. She thinks I'm silly....I don't care what she thinks. Lol
 
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Warning! Stupid question ahead!
I’m wondering how you would go about disinfecting your home once someone in it has recovered from coronavirus?
I know we can wipe down surfaces with bleach, etc, but you can’t get to ALL the germs 100%.
Confessions of a germaphobe.:confused:
I would clean like a "spring cleaning style" to not only clean surfaces but to freshen up the place, which always feels good after someone has been sick at home, and wash all the household linens too. I'd keep the windows open as much as possible to get a cross-breeze going, again to freshen up. I think that would be enough, tbh.

jmo
 
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I’m ready for Friday happy hour. This has been one hell of a week.


George Thorogood And The Destroyers - I Drink Alone
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I drink alone, yeah,

With nobody else

I drink alone, yeah,

With nobody else

You know when I drink alone,

I prefer to be by myself!”
 
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Panic shoppers line up around the block for hours amid coronavirus fears as stores are forced to tighten rationing of disinfectant wipes and toilet paper

Hundreds of anxious customers lined up for hours outside a Costco in Burbank, California on Friday morning as they waited for the outlet to open its doors.

Stunning photos revealed that the line to enter the store stretched the entire length of the parking lot.

Panic shoppers line up around the block for hours amid coronavirus fears | Daily Mail Online

There is a toilet paper shortage in the U.K too. You can’t get antibacterial soap or wipes anywhere.
 
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My South Korea package deliverd 1-1/2 weeks ago is still sitting on my front porch. My daughter tried to bring it in today and I threw it back outside. She thinks I'm silly....I don't care what she thinks. Lol
I was thinking about this when I encountered our fabulous UPS guy yesterday. He had a stack of boxes that he was delivering, loading them from the truck, shifting on the handtruck to carry to addresses.

If there are germs on the surface (which we don't know on any given package - the vast majority are likely not carrying the virus on the surface), the virus cells would not survive, imo, the friction of boxes rubbing against each other every step of the way in delivery. The friction would break the cell walls and the virus would not survive.

It's not as if germs are spread to the cardboard box and then the box is carefully carried to each address around the world without any interaction. Those boxes are tossed against each other and rubbed against each other when stacked over and over again during delivery.

I'm not a cell expert, but I don't think cells can survive friction against them.

The reason we don't just pour soap on items but actually scrub and rub is to break down cell walls. Friction is our friend. :)

This is my theory about shipments in boxes. I'm not afraid to touch them. But if anyone has expert info (beyond my opinion spouted from my armchair), please chime in.

jmo
 
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My South Korea package deliverd 1-1/2 weeks ago is still sitting on my front porch. My daughter tried to bring it in today and I threw it back outside. She thinks I'm silly....I don't care what she thinks. Lol
Ill be silly with you !!!
 
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Everyone is yelling right now about #COVID19 but scientists in Seattle @uwmedicine have their heads down at the lab bench because, as @helenchumd told me, “We are past the point of containment.” Thank goodness they're finally able to charge ahead.
Amy Maxmen on Twitter

It is so weird that Washington is doing so much and just across the Columbia River here in Oregon they have only tested less than 100 people in total! Still no new Oregon coronavirus cases on Day 8, state laboratory finds
 
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I would clean like a "spring cleaning style" to not only clean surfaces but to freshen up the place, which always feels good after someone has been sick at home, and wash all the household linens too. I'd keep the windows open as much as possible to get a cross-breeze going, again to freshen up. I think that would be enough, tbh.

jmo

Great idea about opening windows to get some fresh air inside and circulate the bad air out. I actually saw an article that said the buildings which circulated outside air more than the buildings that did not use a lot of outside air had less instances of infection. I cant remember what infection or study it was about and I of course dont have the article but I did read that statement in the last week or so.

So your advice of getting some fresh outside air to circulate in the home is a valid tip to help us keep infection free in our homes.
 
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Panic shoppers line up around the block for hours amid coronavirus fears as stores are forced to tighten rationing of disinfectant wipes and toilet paper

Hundreds of anxious customers lined up for hours outside a Costco in Burbank, California on Friday morning as they waited for the outlet to open its doors.

Stunning photos revealed that the line to enter the store stretched the entire length of the parking lot.

Panic shoppers line up around the block for hours amid coronavirus fears | Daily Mail Online

There is a toilet paper shortage in the U.K too. You can’t get antibacterial soap or wipes anywhere.
They are not exaggerating....
 
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inthedetails said "This is my theory about shipments in boxes. I'm not afraid to touch them. But if anyone has expert info (beyond my opinion spouted from my armchair), please chime in."
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those 2 BA baggage handlers catching the virus
sure got my attention. think about it.
 
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FIRST CASE IN CENTRAL AMERICA

Costa Rica’s government has confirmed that a 49-year-old woman from the United States who is in the Central American nation with her husband is their first case.

The instance marks the first confirmed infection of the fast-spreading coronavirus in Central America.

Coronavirus LIVE: UK cases soar as second 'coronavirus death' investigated
 
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Just got another email notice from RCCL - they are taking temperatures now and extending the ban on who can get on the ship (depending on where they traveled, who came into contact with someone who traveled, etc.) and they aren't giving refunds if they deny you boarding for a temperature - just future cruise credit.
 
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Why is anti bacterial stuff sold out? It’s a virus.
 
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inthedetails said "This is my theory about shipments in boxes. I'm not afraid to touch them. But if anyone has expert info (beyond my opinion spouted from my armchair), please chime in."
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those 2 BA baggage handlers catching the virus
sure got my attention. think about it.
Good point. I'm thinking about it! :)

jmo
 
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Why is anti bacterial stuff sold out? It’s a virus.
1. People don't know the difference between bacteria and virus.
2. It's soap and people want it.

jmo
 
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“Seattle is literally a ghost town—traffic does not exist." 'Traffic does not exist': What it's like in Seattle amid coronavirus fears

There was a video I posted upstream, I’ll grab it. It showed a normally busy area of Seattle, perhaps a marketplace type area. I got the creepiest dejavu of all the Wuhan videos I’ve been watching.

ETA: “The city’s notorious Pike Place Market, normally bustling...”
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