Coronavirus COVID-19 *Global Health Emergency* #14

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I called my mother and asked her to remove a post she shared on Facebook. It was one of those “friend of a friend who got a list of tips from a doctor who worked in China” types of posts. And it had all kinds of false information about symptoms and how the virus survives. Essentially, it could lead people to believe that as long as they have a runny nose, it could only be a cold and not COVID-19, as well as other false information.

I reported the original post and lots of people have commented on it telling the person it’s a dangerous post, but it’s on its way to going viral nonetheless. There are so many MSM articles with real science and real experts quoted to share that I just don’t understand why people post crap like this. But our old neighbor posted it, so my mom reposted it. I wanted her to remove it before I saw my sister repost and on and on.

Viral posts are well-named as such. False information spreads so easily, like a virus, with social media. It makes my head hurt.
 
  • #122
Trump signs $8.3B bill to combat coronavirus outbreak in US

Washington – President Donald Trump on Friday signed an $8.3 billion measure to help tackle the coronavirus outbreak that has killed 12 people in the U.S. and infected more than 200.

The legislation provides federal public health agencies with money for vaccines, tests and potential treatments and helps state and local governments prepare and respond to the threat. The rapid spread of the virus has rocked financial markets, interrupted travel and threatens to affect everyday life in the United States.

Trump had planned to sign the bill during a visit to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, Vice President Mike Pence said late Thursday on his trip to Washington state, where 11 of the victims have died. But the White House said Friday that Trump would no longer visit the agency because he “does not want to interfere with the CDC’s mission to protect the health and welfare of their people and the agency.”...
 
  • #123
There is a balance. I don't know the answer. What is the "tipping point"? Meanwhile, the band keeps playing on the cruise ships around the world.
I don't know the answer either. And I wasn't taking sides with this. I'm trying to be thoughtful about what goes into a decision to close things up, cancel events, shut things off and affect people's income, livelihood, etc. Some people live paycheck to paycheck. I fell badly about this either way.
 
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Visitor restrictions ordered for nursing homes nationwide amid coronavirus fears

VISITING RESTRICTIONS HAVE been announced for nursing homes nationwide with no non-essential visiting, children or groups allowed, Nursing Homes Ireland has said.
I've heard restrictions are suggested in Washington state as well. Makes me so sad as the people in nursing homes need to have visitors (and the visitors need to seem them as well). ((Grandma and Grandpa))

jmo
 
  • #126
Should You Cancel Travel Plans Amid COVID-19 Concerns? Here's What to Consider

"Rushing to purchase travel insurance ahead of taking trips amid the coronavirus outbreak won’t actually help travelers in the moment, according to Squaremouth, a travel insurance policy comparison website. Standard travel insurance policies usually do not cover trip cancellations because people have a “fear of traveling,” according to the website."

"Travelers looking to buy new insurance coverage that will allow them to cancel their trip amid the outbreak should buy the “Cancel For Any Reason” upgrade included in travel insurance policies, according to Squaremouth."

"Most policies that include the “Cancel For Any Reason” upgrade have to be purchased within 14 to 21 days of the first payment toward a trip and cost about 40% more than typical cancellation policies. The upgrade will reimburse up to 75% of a trip’s cost."
 
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The problem with some of the recipes going around is that the final product needs to be about 70% alcohol.

If you have 2/3rds of 70% and 1/3rd something else, then the final product is no longer 70%. You've reduced it down to 46%, which is below the 70% guideline for alcohol gel sanitizers.

And vodka doesn't even start off as 70% alcohol in the first place, so that means your final product would be far less than 46% alcohol content.
Why not just put some alcohol in a spray bottle and use that?
 
  • #129
This is getting crazy. Every day, every minute, more disturbing news.

People are still being hospitalized for influenza, likely in larger numbers than for COVID-19, even though the influenza epidemic is on the usual seasonal wane
 
  • #130
My son works for an advertising agency in New York City and was told yesterday that as soon as next week they will likely all be working from home possibly for the next several months.

Dumb question. With a shortage of testing kits, how are they coming up with accurate number of cases in the US? Are we so short that the testing isn’t available right now or is it that we are short looking ahead? I guess what I really want to know is how accurate are the numbers if there is testing kit shortage?
 
  • #131
Big malls like American Dream and Mall of America and mall owner Taubman Centers Inc. say they’re adding hand sanitizer stations...
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I keep reading about places that are adding hand sanitizers. WHERE are they getting their supply?!

(I volunteer on weekends at a place that added sanitzers. The dispensers were full last weekend. I'm curious if they are still in supply this weekend. I'll find out tomorrow.)

jmo
 
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  • #132
Costco's free food samples are being pulled from some of its stores as coronavirus worries grow

I wondered about this exact thing on Saturday when I was there, last week, stocking up on toilet paper, gloves, Clorox wipes, Lysol, and water.

Once I was in the Costco in Orange County, CA on a Saturday and the throngs of people waiting for a piece of sausage or something on a cracker were truly amazing. Almost like entire families were trying to eat there. It was a good reminder to avoid Saturday or Sunday if at all possible.
 
  • #133
My son works for an advertising agency in New York City and was told yesterday that as soon as next week they will likely all be working from home possibly for the next several months.

Dumb question. With a shortage of testing kits, how are they coming up with accurate number of cases in the US? Are we so short that the testing isn’t available right now or is it that we are short looking ahead? I guess what I really want to know is how accurate are the numbers if there is testing kit shortage?
There is no way to know the number if there aren't enough kits. No way to know.

I have no idea how you can manage a situation when you don't have information. Basic management: gather information.

jmo
 
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There is a balance. I don't know the answer. What is the "tipping point"? Meanwhile, the band keeps playing on the cruise ships around the world.

Your comment reminded me of the Titanic and how the band continued to play after the ship started to sink. The passengers were all left to save themselves, but the band played on. :(
 
  • #135
Royal Caribbean taking temperature of all cruise passengers before setting sail

Royal Caribbean announced Thursday it will start taking the temperatures of all passengers getting on board its cruise ships and then conduct secondary screenings, if necessary, to ensure no one possibly sick from the coronavirus sets sail.

The new change, implemented Friday, impacts Royal Caribbean’s Harmony of the Seas and Mariner of the Seas ships, both of which make stops in Port Canaveral.

Royal Caribbean said the temperatures of passengers will be taken with a digital, no-touch thermometer.

If a guest’s temperature is above 100.4°F (38° C), the passenger and their party will undergo a secondary health screening, according to the cruise line.

Royal Caribbean said here’s what will happen during the secondary screening:
  • Your temperature will be checked again.
  • You’ll undergo a pulse oximetry reading. This means a device will be placed on your finger to measure your oxygen level.
  • If you happen to have a chronic lung illness, like asthma, please bring a letter from your medical practitioner that indicates your normal baseline oxygen saturation levels. This will help ensure you are not denied boarding if you are healthy otherwise.
  • Then, a medical professional will check you for flu-like symptoms, respiratory illness, etc..., and would make a final assessment to understand if you’re fit to sail.
“If it is decided that we must unfortunately deny you boarding, you’ll receive a 100% future cruise credit for your cruise fare paid, and any precruise Royal Caribbean International purchases and taxes and fees will be refunded to your original form of payment,” the company said in a news release.

They should be doing this in the departure port before passengers embark, not putting them on the ship then testing.
 
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When the World Health Organization declares the coronavirus a "pandemic":


"According to WHO's pandemic preparedness plan, a response to a pandemic would require national governments to action the "full mobilisation of health systems, facilities, and workers at national and subnational levels", to "distribute personal protective equipment" and to "distribute antivirals and other medical supplies in accordance with national plans".


Coronavirus outbreak: What is a pandemic and what happens if one is declared?


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My opinion is that this is needed right now!

"require national governments to action the "full mobilisation of health systems, facilities, and workers at national and subnational levels", to "distribute personal protective equipment" and to "distribute antivirals and other medical supplies in accordance with national plans".
 
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  • #138
My son works for an advertising agency in New York City and was told yesterday that as soon as next week they will likely all be working from home possibly for the next several months.

Dumb question. With a shortage of testing kits, how are they coming up with accurate number of cases in the US? Are we so short that the testing isn’t available right now or is it that we are short looking ahead? I guess what I really want to know is how accurate are the numbers if there is testing kit shortage?

About 3,000 just in New York City alone are under self-quarantine orders and entire State of New York only has about 1,000 test kits.

So clearly not everyone is being tested, and I didn't even count the people coming in on flights from JFK, LGA and EWR that probably need further testing, which is most likely why they aren't checking people coming in from overseas.
 
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  • #139
How to Stop Touching Your Face

We know it’s hard. Try these four tricks to help limit the number of times you touch your face each day to help prevent the spread of the coronavirus.
I would like to share personal progress. I made up my mind to not touch my face, and while it was hard to break the habit at first (I had no idea of often I touched my face), I had made HUGE improvements in breaking that habit.

I really think not touching your face is the #1 tip in avoiding any illness that can be spread by touching your mouth, nose so it's worth paying attention to.

We're intelligent people - we can break a habit. Don't touch your face (and if you have to touch your face, go wash your hands first! It can be done!).

Doesn't cost anything and is likely the best prevention.

Insert cheerleading emoji for a WS pep rally (mandatory attendance)
"Who keeps their hands off their faces?"
"We do, We do!"



jmo
 
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