Coronavirus COVID-19 *Global Health Emergency* #18

[neesaki]

I’m a bit confused about something. They’re saying if you get sick to stay home. If you stay home how will you know if you have the virus? I personally would rather stay home. Not to mention, even going to the clinic to get tested will expose others.

And, not to mention, I have serious problems being treated like a guinea pig.... just think Stu in Stephen King’s “The Stand”... that’s me. Only for me, to a point of phobia. This after considerable past bad experiences feeling like a guinea pig. JMO

 

[Henry2326]

Dr. Campbell will not be pleased with Mr. Gupta. He will shake his head and do that exasperated sigh.

Dr Drew is worse.....basically he says not to worry about it until the CDC tells you to worry. The media is blowing it out of proportion.

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

This is interesting. I thought that the virus didn't affect children or kill them. All of the statistics we have seen have stated that the percentage of children under age 9 for morbidity is 0%.

The statistics that we are getting about this virus are absolutely flawed.

They can only include officially diagnosed cases in the stats. If they don't test because they are overwhelmed with cases, then those don't get counted.

 

[happyday]

If Wuhan and Italy don’t convince people of the need to impose strict limits on congregating I don’t know what can.

26% of people who are symptomatic need intensive care. We’ve read numerous articles quoting people in their 20’s needing hospitalization. The impact of the spread of this on our health care system will be more than it can bear leaving people to be left to die for want of respirators, etc.

Sanjay Gupta is ill-informed.

Young people aren’t the only ones who are on college campuses. How old do you think the professors are? The staff? Gardners? Coaches? Admins? Etc.?

And young people can easily spread this highly contagious disease to the community. Then we look like Lombardy. Is that okay with Gupta?

Yes but I’m not sure just closing schools willy nilly will help anything. All those college kids have just been sent back home and are out and about in their various communities now. And all those elementary kids are just out other places doing things in their communities. All these kids out of school aren’t quarantined. They’re just not in school. What about the many kids who depend on free breakfast and lunch at school for their only meals of the day?
Don’t get me wrong, I’m afraid of this virus. I’m afraid for my parents especially. They are absolutely social distancing and mostly staying in. I just worry that so much panic and rash decision making could cause more damage than the virus itself.

 

[24Roses]

Iowa Board of Regents asks for virtual instruction for major universities in response to coronavirus The main universities are all taking precautions now. Of note the University of Iowa is in Johnson county where the majority of the Ia. cases are.

 

[x_files]

I am honestly shocked at the amount of people on this thread that think it's no problem to shut down entire cities, to willingly just stay home, etc, for weeks. Maybe a lot of people on here are retired or work for large corporations where telecommuting is an option, but unfortunately, self isolating at home as a precaution just isn't practical or feasible for most people.

I wonder how Italy is dealing with it? Are they keeping small business open I wonder?

 

[LadyL]

I'm very sorry that you have such a large amount of patients in your cancer center. We in Nebraska have smaller offices, although we don't have more than one or two in each major city. May I ask where your cancer center is located and low large of an area does it serve?

this is O/T and will probably be deleted
About London Regional Cancer Program | LHSC

 

[Henry2326]

1,011 confirmed. +257
30 deaths. +1

Washington. 272. (King County 190)
New York. 173. (Westchester 108)
California. 158. (Santa Clara. 45)

COVID-19/Coronavirus Real Time Updates With Credible Sources in US and Canada | 1Point3Acres

 

[zecats]

I’ve had a dry cough for days now. Very worried. I think it’s just allergies but this thing has me paranoid, admittedly, about my health.

I hear you loud and clear. It's difficult to be kind of terrified about my own personal health and also be fearful for my mom and brother, for my hubby, and for my grown kids and grandkids. All for various reasons (age, locations, potential symptoms.).

For me it's taking a toll wondering about every cough and every sniffle...and if I feel warm? achy?
Freaking nightmare.

 

[WideOpen]

They are college students. I expect they should be bright enough to understand the serious implications of their actions. I have two students at this time, they may need the leadership of the universities, parents, and respected leaders to show legitimate action and impress upon the communities the serious nature of what is about to happen to our health care systems. Stop the spread, slow it down-now.
College kids are adults, who should be expected to act accordingly in a crisis. come on.
JMLO

 

[Pi Thoughts]

Australia’s first drive through coronavirus testing clinic opens today. (It’s Wednesday 11.04am atm)

The clinic, only the second in the world, has been set up in Adelaide and can receive one patient every 20 minutes.

If successful, more drive through virus-os could be organised in South Australia and across the country.

South Australia Health has said the clinic, at the Repatriation Hospital in Adelaide’s southern suburbs, is another way to test those people who might have become affected with COVID-19.
Country’s first drive through coronavirus clinic opens in Adelaide

 

[zecats]

if your son needs anything or need advice about anything local and i am sure he has his own friends and such but if you need anything since i am in melbourne as well please dont hesitate to PM me and i'll help where i can

Nice of you.

 

[Henry2326]

John Brooks @CDCgov: How many people die from #COVID19 depends on how quickly disease can be detected & treated. Mortality likely between 0.5% and 3.5% -- i.e., could be 5 to 35 times more deadly than seasonal flu. #coronavirus #CROI2020 Liz Highleyman on Twitter

 

[zecats]

3 and 4 and they all died around the same time as their parents? I thought no children below 10 had died?

Is it possible they died of other causes? It seems uncharacteristic that all 4 would die at the same time. I'm hoping as I have 3 grandkids ages 8, 6 and 2. This scares me most of all.

 

[Henry2326]

UCLA just emailed us and made the move: "We will suspend in-person classes wherever possible and transition to online platforms through April 10, which is the end of the second week of Spring Quarter... Students are encouraged to start the Spring Quarter remotely from home."
Miranda Yaver on Twitter

 

[galiuro1]

I feel like even though we are getting a lot of news, there’s a lot more we are not getting. Maybe news we should be getting?
I’m sure a lot of you hear “rumors” in your community, or know someone in isolation or hospitalized.
Our governor does two PC daily, but really seems to withhold info, imo. It’s is MOO we have many in isolation with home health visiting/monitoring vitals, perhaps they should be tested but the test isn’t readily available.

We are right next door to California and our governor is of the don't worry we are all prepared attitude. local govt same and they are of different parties...

 

[Henry2326]

Google parent company Alphabet is recommending that all of its North America employees work from home through April 10 due to coronavirus, according to an email shown to CNN Google has asked all of its North America employees to work from home - CNN

 

[MajorHoople]

Meet the Insane People Still Planning Cruise Ship Vacations

Quotes from article:

The cruise ship industry is reeling. The outbreak of the new coronavirus has made the basic fundamentals of the business medically inadvisable to the point that the State Department has issued a warning to U.S. travelers—chief among them the elderly—to stop taking cruise ships until the threat has passed.

And yet, even as thousands of people have found themselves stuck on ocean liners, in close confines with others suffering from a deadly virus, not everyone is ready to bag their cruise ship getaway. Indeed, while some shudder at the prospect of enduring severe flu-like symptoms and a 14-day quarantine, others see the vacation deal of a lifetime materializing before their eyes.

Kenny Human, a 33-year-old lawyer from Kentucky, is one of those deal seekers. Five days ago, in the height of the coronavirus scare, he decided to purchase a Carnival Cruise trip leaving New Orleans in May for a venture through the western Caribbean. He doesn’t believe the coronavirus is a hoax. He doesn’t think fears of it are overhyped. And his girlfriend tried to convince him it was a bad idea. But, in the end, the price—about $400 per ticket when counting taxes and cancellation insurance—was just too damn good.

“I just have this natural inclination to buy low on things,” Human told The Daily Beast. “My girlfriend does think I’m crazy, but she is reluctantly on board, no pun intended.”

“I have to admit,” he added with a touch of sobriety, “your interest in wanting to speak with me does give me some doubts.”

Both Brett Cimiotti, 58, of Connecticut, and his husband have degrees in microbiology and decided to book a cruise three weeks ago—a five-stop trip through Scandinavia that he fully admits he may end up having to cancel. “I’ve never been on one, never wanted to go on one, finally, I book one, and BOOM! Corona!”

Retired French professor David Lee, 78, is planning to fly to Peru in early April before boarding a boat down the Amazon River. His daughter, Katia, said of her parents: “They’re smart, but in this case seem to be really cavalier.” Her dad said it would be cavalier not to go. “We are a little nervous,” he conceded. “We are not planning on changing our plans unless there are cases down there.”

Paige Bade-Ankudovych, of Amityville, New York, is a 45-year-old teacher who rationalizes her decision to still consider cruising by noting that her profession already gives her a fair amount of exposure to viruses. She hasn’t yet pulled the trigger on the voyage she was planning to take with her husband and two kids to Bermuda. But she hasn’t ruled it out either. The gears in her head are practically audible as she debates the dos and don’ts.

Here's an interesting article about Matthew Smith. (Remember him?) When he refused to be repatriated from the the Diamond Princess I thought he was crazy, but it looks like he was right.

Americans returning home after quarantine and Tokyo dining enthralled Twitter

Matthew Smith (@mjswhitebread) | Twitter

 

[escape2sc]

The Chinese response.....
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This is a must watch - especially the first presentation from our Chinese colleague Dr. Wu Room 1 audD3b Room 1 audD3b via @YouTube

I took screenshots of some of Dr. Wu's charts. Am I allowed to post them ?

 

[Henry2326]

1918 Influenza. « Cities in which multiple interventions were implemented at an early phase of the epidemic had peak death rates ≈50% lower than those that did not and had less-steep epidemic curves. » Public health interventions and epidemic intensity during the 1918 influenza pandemic

Eric D’Ortenzio on Twitter