Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Emergency #4

[Taskforce88]

Major increase in cases and deaths in Wuhan

 

[Tadpole12]

Major increase in cases and deaths in Wuhan

ETA, globally
60 049 confirmed cases vs 44 754 confirmed cases yesterday
15 295 new cases vs yesterday's new cases at 2 025

 

[Hatfield]

I remember that shortage. That had to have been awful for you!
We've had shortages of a variety of different drugs over the years at the hospital where I work. I've always wondered why, when they see supply is running low, they don't just produce more? We most likely have a large supply of vital antibiotics stockpiled in the U.S. but they have expiration dates. What if someone (a country) decides to stop sending them to us? I don't think this is a wise practice.

Exactly.

This is why when we started to see outsourcing of jobs and manufacturing to overseas, I kept thinking to myself that we must not allow certain critical things to be sent overseas. For certain things we, as a country, or any country for that matter that has the means to do so, should manufacture and produce their own supplies of certain critical things.

Because if we dont, then all of a sudden that country is now dependent on the other country to be its main supplier of those important products. The other country can manipulate prices and supplies on purpose or like in this case, it may be that something happens that prevents the other country from being able to produce what they normally produce.

No business model should ever be that dependent to another country if it can prevent it. Especially when the other country does not share the same democratic ideals. Which means if the other country gets mad enough at the country they are supplying, they can purposely stop production and make the other country suffer. For no other reason than we may have offended them and they dont want to do business with us anymore.

I cannot believe we have allowed so many important things to be almost 100 percent manufactured outside of our own country that was perfectly capable of producing most of those important items.

And yea, sure, it will be more costly to the consumer if in house production, but most people are willing to pay a premium for quality goods that dont make people sick or are recalled all the time due to defects.

And there can still be an allowance to let the other country produce a small percentage of those goods to get lower costs, but IMO we should never allow almost total production to be elsewhere for certain important things.

 

[Henry2326]

ETA, globally
60 049 confirmed cases vs 44 754 confirmed cases yesterday
15 295 new cases vs yesterday's new cases at 2 025

Hi- can you give a link? That's a crazy increase.

 

[Henry2326]

So much for a downward trend......what else would it be but clinically diagnosed?!?!?!

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China’s Hubei province reported an additional 242 deaths and 14,840 new cases as of Feb. 12. The province said it is starting to include “clinically diagnosed” cases in its figures and that 13,332 of the new cases fall under that classification.

The government said that a total of 1,310 people have died in the province and that 48,206 people have been infected in the region.

Coronavirus live updates: China's Hubei reports 14,840 new cases, 242 additional deaths

 

[Henry2326]

Singapore’s health ministry said as of Feb. 12, noon, the total number of confirmed infection cases hit 50, with three additional ones reported. Next to China and Japan, which is treating more than a hundred people who contracted the disease onboard a cruise ship, the city-state has one of the highest number of reported cases of the virus.

The health ministry said contact tracing for the confirmed cases is ongoing and that test results for 125 suspected cases are pending. Of the confirmed cases, more than half are a result of local transmissions where the affected individuals did not have any travel history or links to China. Singapore in recent days saw a surge in panic buying of groceries and other essential household items

Coronavirus live updates: China's Hubei reports 14,840 new cases, 242 additional deaths

 

[Henry2326]

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is preparing for the coronavirus, named COVID-19, to “take a foothold in the U.S.,” Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, told reporters. “At some point, we are likely to see community spread in the U.S. or in other countries,” said Messonnier. “This will trigger a change in our response strategy.” —

Coronavirus live updates: China's Hubei reports 14,840 new cases, 242 additional deaths

 

[MJPeony]

My trusty BNO twitter go-to. It explains the new numbers a bit.
BNO Newsroom (@BNODesk) on Twitter
@BNOdesk

 

[Tadpole12]

@Henry2326 ....
From the COVID-19 Outbreak tracking and forecast, the google doc

COVID19 Outbreak tracking and forecast

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CNN Coronavirus Live Updates:
China's Hubei reports 14 840 new cases
242 additional deaths

 

[Henry2326]

ABC picked up the story about vaccine.....

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On Tuesday, Trevor Smith, director of research and development at Inovio Pharmaceuticals, told KFMB-TV that company scientists had developed a vaccine for COVID-19 hours after beginning work with a genetic sequence released by Chinese scientists.

“We have an algorithm, which we designed, and we put the DNA sequence into our algorithm and came up with the vaccine in that short amount of time,” Smith said according to KFMB-TV.

Coronavirus: Some CDC test kits sent to states, internationally flawed

 

[Amonet]

So much for a downward trend......what else would it be but clinically diagnosed?!?!?!

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China’s Hubei province reported an additional 242 deaths and 14,840 new cases as of Feb. 12. The province said it is starting to include “clinically diagnosed” cases in its figures and that 13,332 of the new cases fall under that classification.

The government said that a total of 1,310 people have died in the province and that 48,206 people have been infected in the region.

Coronavirus live updates: China's Hubei reports 14,840 new cases, 242 additional deaths

Clinical diagnosis is people diagnosed by their symptoms rather than the confirmatory testing.

 

[Hatfield]

So much for a downward trend......what else would it be but clinically diagnosed?!?!?!

__________________

China’s Hubei province reported an additional 242 deaths and 14,840 new cases as of Feb. 12. The province said it is starting to include “clinically diagnosed” cases in its figures and that 13,332 of the new cases fall under that classification.

The government said that a total of 1,310 people have died in the province and that 48,206 people have been infected in the region.

Coronavirus live updates: China's Hubei reports 14,840 new cases, 242 additional deaths

Oh my. Sounds like they are changing the counting rules again.

Why do I get the feeling its all been Smoke and Mirrors.

Maybe WHO forced them to give up some real numbers and they added some silly excuse about it to save face.

 

[Henry2326]

Oh my. Sounds like they are changing the counting rules again.

Why do I get the feeling its all been Smoke and Mirrors.

Maybe WHO forced them to give up some real numbers and they added some silly excuse about it to save face.

I thought the very same thing.....look what being nice gets ya.....

 

[MJPeony]

Meanwhile.... the Santa Clara County (2 confirmed CA cases) director of public health just posted on social media here. A long statement about anti-discrimination (fine), but she says this little gem: “Not only that, there is no evidence that the novel coronavirus is circulating in Santa Clara County.”

Wha—-?!

 

[MJPeony]

14th US case confirmed. In California.

Twitter
@BNOdesk

 

[Amonet]

Oh my. Sounds like they are changing the counting rules again.

Why do I get the feeling its all been Smoke and Mirrors.

Maybe WHO forced them to give up some real numbers and they added some silly excuse about it to save face.

On the other hand, all those people they apparently put into those rows of beds....I don't think there would have been enough test kits for them or time to process them all by now if they had had enough test kits.

I wonder more if they've agreed with the WHO on diagnostic symptoms, because over here the suspected cases have been about five times higher than confirmations in the suspected cases (or more than five times higher).

In lieu of confirmation testing for Covid-19, are they at least testing to rule out influenza in those patients? That would increase the likelihood that the symptoms are from Covid-19 and increase the accuracy of clinical diagnoses that haven't been confirmed through lab tests?

 

[Amonet]

Meanwhile.... the Santa Clara County (2 confirmed CA cases) director of public health just posted on social media here. A long statement about anti-discrimination (fine), but she says this little gem: “Not only that, there is no evidence that the novel coronavirus is circulating in Santa Clara County.”

Wha—-?!

If those cases acquired the disease in another country and only got diagnosed in Santa Clara County, and they were in self-isolation prior to testing positive, then that notice could well be correct.

There are too many cases now for me to keep a mental track of for the UK let alone all the cases in other countries, so I'm just offering that up as a suggestion.

 

[MJPeony]

If those cases acquired the disease in another country and only got diagnosed in Santa Clara County, and they were in self-isolation prior to testing positive, then that notice could well be correct.

There are too many cases now for me to keep a mental track of for the UK let alone all the cases in other countries, so I'm just offering that up as a suggestion.

Thank you- I can use anything to help me stay “not alarmist”

One of the 2 cases in Santa Clara county went to 2 different hospitals/medical centers over a period of a couple of days before he was diagnosed. At least 5 of the medical workers he came into contact with have now been asked to self-quarantine. But I do not think they were identified immediately because he had not yet discovered he had the virus.

So, I don’t think there is any way to ascertain how many people he may have come in contact with.

 

[Amonet]

Thank you- I can use anything to help me stay “not alarmist”

One of the 2 cases in Santa Clara county went to 2 different hospitals/medical centers over a period of a couple of days before he was diagnosed. At least 5 of the medical workers he came into contact with have now been asked to self-quarantine. But I do not think they were not identified immediately because he had not yet discovered he had the virus.

So, I don’t think there is any way to ascertain how many people he may have come in contact with.

Oh I see. So it would be technically correct to say that there's currently no evidence of the virus circulating in Santa Clara county, but you don't know if that will change in the next 14 days.

 

[MJPeony]

Oh I see. So it would be technically correct to say that there's currently no evidence of the virus circulating in Santa Clara county, but you don't know if that will change in the next 14 days.

Right.

Seems a bit irresponsible of her to not make that clear- for the sake of the less informed (i.e people who are not WS’ers ).

But, I’m moving about town side-eyeing anyone who breathes too loudly, and using so much Purell that my fingers are cracking. So I’m probably a little paranoid.