Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Emergency #5

[mickey2942]

I suspect that there are cases of COVID19 in Mexico, Central and South America, but they are undiagnosed as "COVID19". Probably assuming that the illness is flu.

There may also be some issues with identifying the virus. Diagnosis. After all, not even the United States is completely ready to diagnose patients with COVID19.

 

[Herat]

I suspect that there are cases of COVID19 in Mexico, Central and South America, but they are undiagnosed as "COVID19". Probably assuming that the illness is flu.

Certainly possible.

I'm concerned that COVID-19 will arrive in the US across land borders, undetected.

 

[mickey2942]

Certainly possible.

I'm concerned that COVID-19 will arrive in the US across land borders, undetected.

Not to throw the thread into politics, but that is a valid point.
11 Chinese migrants found hiding inside furniture in moving truck at US-Mexico border

 

[dixiegirl1035]

This ship disaster won't go away.....it keeps on giving.

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Just days after releasing nearly 1,000 passengers from the cruise ship quarantined for two weeks in the port of Yokohama that has been a coronavirus hot spot, Japan’s health minister admitted that 23 passengers had been mistakenly cleared to leave without taking a valid recent test.

In a news briefing on Saturday night, the health minister, Katsunobu Kato, apologized for the mishap, in which the passengers left the ship, the Diamond Princess, on Wednesday and Thursday although they had not been tested for the coronavirus since before the ship went into lockdown on Feb. 5.

In certifying that the passengers posed “no risk of infection,” the Japanese Health Ministry said it had tested them and checked for symptoms as they disembarked.

Mr. Kato said that all 23 mistakenly cleared passengers had left the ship and boarded some form of public transportation. He said none of them had reported any symptoms so far and 20 had already agreed to be retested, with three negative tests so far.

Coronavirus Live Updates: W.H.O. Team Heads to Wuhan as Its Leader Warns Africa

I wonder if it will ever be told which group/countries these 23 were part of during debarkation.

 

[Henry2326]

I wonder if it will ever be told which group/countries these 23 were part of during debarkation.

All 23 people, including four foreigners, are residents of Japan, and went home using public transportation on Wednesday and Thursday.

23 passengers released without being tested | NHK WORLD-JAPAN News

 

[Henry2326]

Milan reports second case of coronavirus, 43 new cases in Italy so far today Tracking coronavirus: Map, data and timeline
Total is 63 total cases....

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[Herat]

I deliberately said land borders.

That could be either northern or southern.

Right now there are more confirmed postive COVID-19 tested people in Canada than in any land south of our borders.

 

[Herat]

All 23 people, including four foreigners, are residents of Japan, and went home using public transportation on Wednesday and Thursday.

23 passengers released without being tested | NHK WORLD-JAPAN News

If you cant get the testing schedule correct for 23 people how can you handle an epidemic of 10's or 100's of thousands of people?

 

[Henry2326]

MOO...........attached is the CDC reporting table that they discussed on the call yesterday. 414 have been tested and we know there are over 8,000 people that were asked to self isolate after returning from China.

I believe the genie is out of the bottle and a waiting game to see if the virus takes hold of a community or cluster. What does that look like? I think Italy is a good example. When we see 50+ cases out of a single area in a single day, it will have begun. We clearly don't have that yet....

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

 

[Henry2326]

I guess they went to plan B, since the judge in CA stopped plan A....
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ANNISTON, Ala. (WIAT) — Saturday the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services announced the FEMA Center for Domestic Preparedness in Anniston will be used as a place for some of the American passengers from the cruise ship in Japan.

The full statement from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services follows:

HHS is taking precautions to protect the health of all Americans from Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19). To that end, HHS and FEMA agreed to use a federal facility, the FEMA Center for Domestic Preparedness in Anniston, Alabama, as a place for some of the American passengers from the Diamond Princess to stay. These are passengers whom the federal government evacuated back to the U.S. from the Diamond Princess cruise ship in Japan.

The passengers who will stay at the Center tested positive for COVID-19, although at this time they either do not have symptoms or have mild flu-like symptoms. Any of the evacuees who become seriously ill will be transported to pre-identified hospitals for medical care. Under the HHS-FEMA agreement, the Center for Domestic Preparedness will provide the housing, and HHS will provide basic medical care and all other support services for these returning passengers. Passengers will stay in a separate area from the Center’s training participants and will remain at the Center until they are medically cleared.

The Center has unique facilities and routinely offers week-long, hands-on training for large groups of professionals from federal, state and local emergency management agencies, hospitals, public health agencies, and law enforcement agencies on disaster response.

Alabama FEMA Center to be used as part of Coronavirus quarantine

 

[Amonet]

A 70-year-old man in China’s Hubei Province was infected with coronavirus but did not show symptoms until 27 days later, suggesting the virus’ incubation period could be much longer than the 14 days which most people have been quarantined for.

Coronavirus updates: Cases in South Korea surge as U.S. prepares for pandemic

I hope they have more details for that case for the medical community to study. It says he was infected, but didn't show symptoms until 27 days later. Where was he for the 27 days? On which days was he confirmed to have the virus, what were the viral loads on those days, and on which day is the presumed day on which he was infected? What were the symptoms when he did become symptomatic?

I think there's a big difference in someone not-knowingly infected and then not coming to the notice of doctors until day 27, vs someone who's confirmed by PCR on day five, and tests between day 5 and day 27 would all continue to test positive all the way through to day 27 when symptoms start....because this second scenario could be kept in isolation for the duration and you'd have more certainty of the date of infection plus control over that case potentially spreading the virus during the asymptomatic phase.

 

[Amonet]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/coronavirus-covid-19-iran-bc-south-korea-1.5472316
''1st case in Canada with no connection to China
Canada's ninth presumptive case of coronavirus is a woman in her 30s who recently travelled to Iran and is now recovering at home in British Columbia.

Health officials were surprised to learn she had not travelled to China or any of its neighbouring countries, and have classified the case as a "sentinel event" — one that originated from a region that is completely unexpected.

Dr. Bonnie Henry, B.C.'s provincial health officer, said they are investigating where the woman may have contracted the virus, working alongside the Public Health Agency of Canada. The woman had a travelling companion, was visiting family and is now in isolation at home.

"Until very recently, we didn't consider Iran as a place of transmission of COVID-19," Henry said in an interview. "So that set off quite a number of warning bells for us."

Henry said the investigation continues into where the woman travelled, but she hadn't been to the city of Qom, where a handful of cases have been recorded. "She did report at the airport [in Tehran] that there were quite a lot of people who were sick and who were wearing masks," she said.

The answers are important to public health measures aimed at containing the virus, such as whether Canada should expand its border-screening questionnaires for travellers from places beyond the epicentre in China's Hubei province.''

I am curious what led to the woman in Canada being tested for Covid-19 when she'd traveled from Iran rather than China/S. Korea etc.

I find the story of the airport in Tehran having a lot of mask-wearing and sick people to be very concerning as it's only in the past few days that they've even said they had cases there...and they've said that they think it's in a number of cities already in Iran despite the recent date for confirmation of cases there!

 

[dixiegirl1035]

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Israel's ambassador to China has been quarantined because he was on the same flight as South Korean tourists who tested positive for coronavirus - Jerusalem Post

 

[Henry2326]

Israel's ambassador to China has been quarantined because he was on the same flight as South Korean tourists who tested positive for coronavirus - Jerusalem Post

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[Alyce]

Did the last occupants leave the technological devices and other things they were given? Or does everything have to be new due to possible infection?

I’m not sure re the TVs and other devices...a second group was not initially expected so items may have been cleared out before they were asked to take more people into quarantine

 

[lovemyhuskies]

Americans under coronavirus quarantine being moved to Alabama site

Sorry if this has already been posted. Hitting close to home! Evacuated Diamond Princess passengers who have tested positive are being moved to an Alabama FEMA Center for Domestic Preparedness.

 

[Windsorite]

I am curious what led to the woman in Canada being tested for Covid-19 when she'd traveled from Iran rather than China/S. Korea etc.

This is the BC health authorities discussing this case, I guess it's what they refer to as a low
threshold for testing

 

[What if...]

I deliberately said land borders.

That could be either northern or southern.

Right now there are more confirmed postive COVID-19 tested people in Canada than in any land south of our borders.

Personally, I’m more concerned about the infected individuals that haven’t even been identified as potential cases.

 

[Herat]

"Under the HHS-FEMA agreement, the Center for Domestic Preparedness"

Ugh. This phrase linking the agency that runs Medicare / Social Security / Medicaid with FEMA to deal with patients does not give me much confidence.

Center for Domestic Preparedness is the new name for FEMA , but light.

FEMA's Premier All-Hazards Training Center - Center for Domestic Preparedness

Nothing worse than hearing: "Hello, Im from FEMA and I'm here to help you"

 

[Henry2326]

"Under the HHS-FEMA agreement, the Center for Domestic Preparedness"

Ugh. This phrase linking the agency that runs Medicare / Social Security / Medicaid with FEMA to deal with patients does not give me much confidence.

This is just the place they are quarantined......and probably others in the future.
All the power is with the local health departments for other decisions.....rolling downhill......