Coronavirus COVID-19 *Global Health Emergency* #7

[Auntie Cipation]

It’s hard not to go to markets and for me, I have to go to court. I’m asthmatic so I get this I’m dead. I want to wear a mask in crowded areas but I don’t want to look crazy.

@gitana1 this is what you need then!

(of course they will all wonder why your lips don't move when you speak...)

Protect yourself from the coronavirus with a mask that looks like your actual face

 

[margarita25]

The specific routes she flew are important, but I’d say any route that that specific aircraft took would also be germane.

Flight attendants are ALL over an airplane- Touching and restocking stuff, using the overhead phone/loudspeaker, touching the safety demo stuff, etc etc etc.

I hope they thoroughly disinfect the plane. Although it could be too late for people who were already flying in it- even if they weren’t on that flight attendant’s flights!

MOO

“Germane”.

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ETA / Wanting to clarify typos for better understanding and to keep things clear here...Sorry meant “DP passengers”...Sorry was typing sooo fast last night.

Thank you, yes. I was just catching up on that here:

Total Confirmed COVID-19 Cases At Lackland Rises To 6

ETA: making note because CDC was clear to indicate they are labeling the groups in two as far as separating the DO passenger...

I hope that Texas spot map was color coded also to indicate this. Need to go back and look.

Just trying to keep things real clear here re: facts. So this doesn’t refer to sustained transmission on domestic oil of any sort, just making sure they’re putting Texas on the map due to repatriation. Is that correct?

BBM: I’m just going to add this to my signature as a disclaimer for every post (along with “ “, “non-political post” “just sayin” and “we must stand together in solidarity”.

I don't mean to be an alarmist, but it sounds like there are a lot of pockets of suspected virus in the USA, yet the international number count don't reflect those numbers. Italy and Iran had outbreaks, now London,

Asia is hooped, how bad is it? Do 24 year olds just get really sick, sicker than they've ever been before, and tail off with brochitis, barely avoiding pneumonia - does the lifespan tailspin mean 24 year olds get this contagious virus and live to 60, 70 instead of 90, 100?

 

[dotr]

Coronavirus: How the deadly epidemic sparked a global emergency | Four Corners / 2 days ago

I’m about halfway through this ABC News documentary right now, it’s pretty good. It shows a lot of stuff from the early days in Wuhan, detailed chats by Dr. LW, etc., and has some really good overhead drone footage in Wuhan. There’s also sad, intense footage. There’s one section where medical staff are freaking out about the dead bodies, saying they can’t take it anymore, etc. It’s quite scary and gripping to watch.

We’ve been watching all this unfold in real time so far, absorbing it in the present as it happens. It’s interesting now to watch this from a narrative timeline-type-past experience perspective and in light of the new threats at hand. Let’s hope this will not spread like it did/has in China, literally multiplying and multiplying...it’s scary to look at the numbers a month ago in China and look at them now.

Excellent doc, thanks!

 

[Henry2326]

BREAKING: Iran's former ambassador to the Vatican, Hadi Khosroshahi, has died of coronavirus - IRNA

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[Herat]

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I’m so disappointed in our country’s lack of a response. I can see absolutely no excuse.

finally, non politically, I was really hoping the person to spearhead this response would be someone with experience in pandemics/infectious disease/something. I don’t know that our VP quite fits that criteria.

Non-political post:

I would have prefered the US Surgeon General be put in charge. I don't think a politician whose last work with a viral disease resulted in denial of testing and care for an outbreak, and the general denial of healthcare to certain patient types.

 

[margarita25]

Dbm

 

[margarita25]

Non-political post:

I would have prefered the US Surgeon General be put in charge. I don't think a politician whose last work with a viral disease resulted in denial of testing and care for an outbreak, and the general denial of healthcare to certain patient types.

Ha! Good ole Dr. Koop

 

[galiuro1]

I woud also like to add:

When the first wave breaks, the CDC has it's act in gear and does not deny testing to those who don't have the specific contacts the CDC required.

Because, as we are seeing in other countries, COVID-19 is popping up in people who are not in the "close contact / travel / family relationship" category.

I think CDC really fouled up badly on this California case and I have to think they have a real shortage of test kits available. Unlike South Korea, where there appears to be no prohibition on testing. *shakes fist at CDC*[/QUOTE]

I thought the CDC was so together with the 'gonna surveillance test along with the flu' but apparently that turned out just to be hot air...I want to think they are professionals who see what needs to be done but are frustrated by state and locals and also by funds...at any rate they need to be our point on the spear so pleeaase get it together guys.

 

[Herat]

I’ve been saying this early on. That worried me more at first than the virus itself. I think it’s going to be catastrophic.

This is a pending disaster for our older population who are dependent on fixed incomes, have limited means to buy protective equipment or stockpile supplies, and who are at the highest risk for severe or fatal infections.

 

[gitana1]

BREAKING: Iran's former ambassador to the Vatican, Hadi Khosroshahi, has died of coronavirus - IRNA

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Whoa.

 

[Herat]

Dbm

Different guy.

The latest Iranian politician reported by BBC News has already been reported on here.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Holy moly, is this the same guy that was sweating or a different guy? Googling

Different. The sweating guy with the virus is Iran's deputy health minister, Iraj Harirchi. Iran's president has urged people to comply with the health ministry's directives - HA!

Now, Masoumeh Ebtekar, a spokeswoman for the Iranian hostage-takers in 1979 and the Vice President of Iran, has been diagnosed with Coronavirus. Just one day prior to her diagnosis, Ebtekar attended a cabinet meeting with a number of other officials including Iranian President Hassan Rouhani.

Meanwhile, an MP from the Iranian capital Tehran, Mahmoud Sadeghi, said he had also tested positive for the virus


Spokeswoman For Iranian Hostage-Takers Diagnosed With Coronavirus

 

[What if...]

Yes, that would be devastating if those who obtained this virus do not have a long immunity. That is something that I don't think we even mentioned in the first thread as to what the worst virus would be. That is one biggie MOO. Perhaps that person was an immunocompromised or elderly person that could not do a proper immune response.

If so, one of the vaccines isn't gonna work for that person. And may need herd immunity for such.

Wonder how many folks still don't get flu shot, or refuse to get measles shot when an outbreak that there is a thread here for.

If the virus can re-infect someone almost immediately upon recovery, that’s bad enough. But the last statement:

“Tierno said much remains unknown about the virus. "I'm not certain that this is not bi-phasic, like anthrax," he said, meaning the disease appears to go away before recurring.”

This is implying that recovered folks aren’t actually recovered at all. Basically saying the virus goes dormant, and then
re-emerges at a later time.

 

[Henry2326]

Tooooo late......crazy guy back pedaling from yesterday

NEW: Iranian President Hassan Rouhani urges all citizens to avoid travel and gatherings in an effort to prevent the spread of coronavirus

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[gitana1]

Non-political post:

I would have prefered the US Surgeon General be put in charge. I don't think a politician whose last work with a viral disease resulted in denial of testing and care for an outbreak, and the general denial of healthcare to certain patient types.

Yeah it scares me. Especially since our president praised how China handled it.

Is that what we can expect? Trump says China is handling coronavirus 'professionally'

 

[margarita25]

Different. The sweating guy with the virus is Iran's deputy health minister, Iraj Harirchi,

Now, Masoumeh Ebtekar, a spokeswoman for the Iranian hostage-takers in 1979, has been diagnosed with Coronavirus. Just one day prior to her diagnosis, Ebtekar attended a cabinet meeting with a number of other officials including Iranian President Hassan Rouhani.

Spokeswoman For Iranian Hostage-Takers Diagnosed With Coronavirus

Thank you. I realized that and DBM’d the question, but glad you clarified.

 

[Henry2326]

Yeah it scares me. Especially since our president praised how China handled it.

Is that what we can expect? Trump says China is handling coronavirus 'professionally'

WHO and other experts have stated that the only control measures we have is lock down....

 

[Herat]

Japanese woman reinfected with coronavirus weeks after initial recovery

From CNN's Junko Ogura in Tokyo

A woman working as a tour bus guide in Japan has tested positive for the coronavirus for a second time, Osaka's prefecture government said on Wednesday.

The first case of reinfection to be reported in the country comes amid mounting fears over the spread of coronavirus there. The number of confirmed cases in Japan has risen to more than 800 -- nearly 700 of which were reported on a cruise liner quarantined off Tokyo earlier this month -- and seven people have died.

The 40-year-old woman, an Osaka resident, tested positive on Wednesday after developing chest pains and a sore throat, the prefectural government said in a statement. She first tested positive in late January and was discharged from hospital on February 1, after being treated for symptoms at a hospital in Osaka.

The Japanese Ministry of Health guidelines state that coronavirus patients must get tested twice before their release.

The woman had contact with tourists from Wuhan while working as a tour guide in mid-January. An Osaka prefectural official told CNN that she did not attend work, wore a mask at all times and did not have close contact with anyone while she was not in a medical facility.

It's much more likely it will resemble other coronaviruses, no one has a built up immunity to
the common cold even though we've all had it.

EXTREMELY IMPORTANT CONCEPT- thank you for this great post

And let's realize. What happens to older people who are released from the hospital with an improved Serious or Critical case of COVID-19 pneumonia?

They go to nursing homes, skilled nursing facilities, other care sites. So if there is no immunity for this virus, and the patients can harbor virus below detectable levels, patients may very well infect entire care facilities and infect their healthcare workers, even after discharge. This is the hidden bomb I am worrying about.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

It’s hard not to go to markets and for me, I have to go to court. I’m asthmatic so I get this I’m dead. I want to wear a mask in crowded areas but I don’t want to look crazy.

I have asthma and do my best to avoid potential allergens and people who are coughing, sneezing, blowing their noses, etc. My allergy/asthma specialist told me years ago to wear a mask when flying, but I used to feel very conspicuous and didn't always comply with her request. On both of our flights for our annual winter cruise last month, DH and I donned our surgical masks and didn't give a hoot what our fellow passengers thought

 

[Bravo]

Thanks for all the updates folks. I have been popping in with too many posts to thank. This has gone from bad to worse. Common cold has been going around at work and I pray I don't get it. Had pneumonia early Jan. and it was brutal.