Coronavirus COVID-19 *Global Health Emergency* #9

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  • #661
The freaking diagram is SHOWING you that the source of the potential sepsis is the IV/Picc site. It even has drawing of the location of the iv/picc and surrounding veins. If one still wants to suggest that sepsis is a primary complication of a viral infection, carry on.
Hi Firebird!

Just to clarify for readers (though you probably already know this): IV's don't directly cause sepsis.
Infections (whether bacterial, fungal, or viral) do.

Sepsis is a life-threatening condition that arises when the body's response to infection causes injury to its tissues and organs. Common signs and symptoms include fever, increased heart rate, increased breathing rate, and confusion
 
  • #662
Hi Firebird!

Just to clarify: IV's don't cause disease.
Infections (whether bacterial, fungal, or viral) do.

Yes, I thought that was obvious. And the infections they cause are almost 100% bacterial.
 
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Coronavirus: L.A. residents stock up on food, cleaning supplies
''After the initial outbreak of the coronavirus in China, Los Angeles resident Lily Capatori followed every news update about the disease and the efforts to contain it.

When it spread to other countries such as Japan, Italy and eventually, the United States, she concluded that an outbreak in Los Angeles was inevitable.

“We’re going to have a lot of closures and casualties like in other countries,” she said. “It’s not a matter of ‘if’ but ‘when,’ and I just want to be ready because when people panic and hit the shops, I’ll be ready to go.”

Walking around, she noticed that cases of water bottles were nearly out, and the toilet paper that is usually stacked high was gone. For a moment she stopped to speak to Joel, a Costco employee.

“What’s selling the most?” she asked him.

“Anything that has to do with cleaning,” he told her.

“What are you out of?”

“Toilet paper, water, towels,”

“Antiseptic wipes and Clorox disinfecting wipes are flying out of here,” he said. “We can’t keep those in stock.”

He said people are mostly purchasing water, paper goods, grains such as rice and pasta, jarred food and peanut butter.''
 
  • #664
I do this too but I live in arid country. People in humid areas might experience them getting clogged with moisture faster than in the arid lands.

Yeah that makes sense. I’m in So Cal. It’s dry here.
 
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Thank you for this!
Let's see - am I reading this correctly? FEWER THAN 12 states have test kits?!

"Okay. So let’s see. The first question, it’s 12 state or local health departments. And so it’s not 12 states total. We are still as a point of part of how we roll out these tests, those tests that are positive still do come to CDC for confirmation."

Remember that this was WEDNESDAY - a lot has happened since then wrt to testing (hopefully, lol).

Since this PC, the next morning iirc, Governor Gavin commented a lot on this.

Then of course we’ve had other updates (I’m still behind).

Let me hunt for a Governor Gavin transcript fwiw.

Here’s the video (remember this was before any deaths were announced) - Must watch IMO because you can see he/they are all over the testing kit situation. Worth a watch imo as we watch this unfold in California and around the other states.

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(@MJPeony , you were in yoga. Hope you watched this in it’s entirety :) )
 
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The freaking diagram is SHOWING you that the source of the potential sepsis is the IV/Picc site. It even has drawing of the location of the iv/picc and surrounding veins. If one still wants to suggest that sepsis is a primary complication of a viral infection, carry on.
And as someone who has actually had sepsis I’m saying there are other sources. Mine was bacterial. I didn’t get it in the hospital. Maybe the graph means outside sources for infection when you are compromised (absolutely). A friend of mine lost her dad due to sepsis after a car accident. Did it come from the collision or the hospital, they don’t know. Another friend picked hers up outside the hospital and has had ongoing issues because she didn’t seek treatment right away. I don’t think sepsis is primary issue but this virus is too new to limit the possibilities. We don’t know how our bodies are going to react to a new (novel) virus.
 
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Viral infections like coronavirus often lead to secondary infections like pneumonia, and those secondary infections are often bacterial. Those bacterial infections can spread and develop into sepsis.

Tell it to the diagram in the OP, cause that's not what they're saying.

eta: most fatalities from corona virus are due to the secondary infections in the elderly and health compromised (pnuemonia), but not sepsis. I haven't seen one single corona virus death identified as due to viral sepsis from the disease itself OR bacterial sepsis from complications. If others have contrary info, by all means, bring it.
 
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Washington State Health website is providing the number of people infected, tested, waiting results and family member are being asked to monitor their health at home. Asking people who are showing signs of the virus to stay away from their pets. Instead find a caregiver or a family member to care for the pets . That’s stressing for someone who loves to cuddle with their pet.
I attempted to copy and paste but instead made a muck of things.
 
  • #672
If anyone needs Clorox disinfecting wipes, Staples is selling 3 packs on sale, as well as the bigger containers. There were a lot when I went yesterday.
 
  • #673
Are you pouring the rubbing alcohol full strength into the mini spray bottles. I will see if the dollar store sells mini spray bottles.
I remember the nurses stressing the need to wipe down surfaces after my husbands transplant.

Yes!

But you can mix three parts alcohol with one part aloe Vera gel to make hand sanitizer.
 
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re: TEST KITS
Per the CDC: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Apparently
1) they are redoing the first test kits* that they found issue with, and
2) they are recreating / developing them from live, 21 day+ old cases

FDA issued the EUA on February 4, 2020. IRR began distribution of the test kits to states, but shortly thereafter performance issues were identified related to a problem in the manufacturing of one of the reagents which led to laboratories not being able to verify the test performance. CDC is remanufacturing the reagents with more robust quality control measures. New tests will be distributed once this issue has been addressed. CDC continues to perform initial and confirmatory testing.
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Initial work to develop a serology test for SARS-CoV-2 is underway at CDC. In order to develop the test, CDC needs blood samples from people who had COVID-19 at least 21 days after their symptoms first started. Researchers are currently working to develop the basic parameters for the test, which will be refined as more samples become available. Once the test is developed, CDC will need additional samples to evaluate whether the test works as intended.

*Edited to change kids -> kits. The CDC is not currently developing kids. :p
 
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If you can't find mini spray bottles, go to the travel size section in supermarkets or drugstores and get the little hairsprays to empty, and replace with the alcohol.
 
  • #676
I've read that the ones with the little square vent in front are easier. A valve opens as you breathe out, so your humid exhales don't just get absorbed by the mask. Then the vent automatically closes on the inhale to keep out pollutants. Maybe that kind would be easier, even just a little.
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Yes!

But you can mix three parts alcohol with one part aloe Vera gel to make hand sanitizer.
I think that’s only the 99% alcohol, 198 proof stuff. Haven’t looked at efficiency of lower doses.
 
  • #679
Yes!

But you can mix three parts alcohol with one part aloe Vera gel to make hand sanitizer.
Great idea.

Also, one can use tea tree oil (a natural disinfectant) instead of alcohol, and mix it with a carrier oil or gel (like aloe vera).
 
  • #680
If anyone needs Clorox disinfecting wipes, Staples is selling 3 packs on sale, as well as the bigger containers. There were a lot when I went yesterday.

JMO
I had never used Clorox Wipes until about a week ago when I picked some up for the first time. They are fantastic and I wiped my long overdue sink area down with it and my goodness that stuff is good. Everything felt clean as a whistle when I was done. I was very impressed with Clorox Wipes for cleaning combined with disenfecting things.

The label says it kills 99.9% of Viruses and Bacteria. I dont know accurate it is, but it sure seemed to work really well and things felt very clean after using them. Just wanted to share my opinion on them as I had never used them till recently.

ETA - The wipes have a liberal coating of liquid in the wipes. You could almost wring them out, they had so much saturated solution in the wipes, and I liked that about them.
 
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