Coronavirus COVID-19 *Global Health Emergency* #9

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This is long, but a lot of good information that I never thought about.

Got this via a friend. It contains lots of great and very calm info about corona virus. Worth the read! The author is James Robb, MD UC San Diego

Subject: What I am doing for the upcoming COVID-19 (coronavirus) pandemic

Dear Colleagues, as some of you may recall, when I was a professor of pathology at the University of California San Diego, I was one of the first molecular virologists in the world to work on coronaviruses (the 1970s). I was the first to demonstrate the number of genes the virus contained. Since then, I have kept up with the coronavirus field and its multiple clinical transfers into the human population (e.g., SARS, MERS), from different animal sources.

The current projections for its expansion in the US are only probable, due to continued insufficient worldwide data, but it is most likely to be widespread in the US by mid to late March and April.

Here is what I have done and the precautions that I take and will take. These are the same precautions I currently use during our influenza seasons, except for the mask and gloves.:

1) NO HANDSHAKING! Use a fist bump, slight bow, elbow bump, etc.

2) Use ONLY your knuckle to touch light switches. elevator buttons, etc.. Lift the gasoline dispenser with a paper towel or use a disposable glove.

3) Open doors with your closed fist or hip - do not grasp the handle with your hand, unless there is no other way to open the door. Especially important on bathroom and post office/commercial doors.

4) Use disinfectant wipes at the stores when they are available, including wiping the handle and child seat in grocery carts.

5) Wash your hands with soap for 10-20 seconds and/or use a greater than 60% alcohol-based hand sanitizer whenever you return home from ANY activity that involves locations where other people have been.

6) Keep a bottle of sanitizer available at each of your home's entrances. AND in your car for use after getting gas or touching other contaminated objects when you can't immediately wash your hands.

7) If possible, cough or sneeze into a disposable tissue and discard. Use your elbow only if you have to. The clothing on your elbow will contain infectious virus that can be passed on for up to a week or more!

What I have stocked in preparation for the pandemic spread to the US:

1) Latex or nitrile latex disposable gloves for use when going shopping, using the gasoline pump, and all other outside activity when you come in contact with contaminated areas.

Note: This virus is spread in large droplets by coughing and sneezing. This means that the air will not infect you! BUT all the surfaces where these droplets land are infectious for about a week on average - everything that is associated with infected people will be contaminated and potentially infectious. The virus is on surfaces and you will not be infected unless your unprotected face is directly coughed or sneezed upon. This virus only has cell receptors for lung cells (it only infects your lungs) The only way for the virus to infect you is through your nose or mouth via your hands or an infected cough or sneeze onto or into your nose or mouth.

2) Stock up now with disposable surgical masks and use them to prevent you from touching your nose and/or mouth (We touch our nose/mouth 90X/day without knowing it!). This is the only way this virus can infect you - it is lung-specific. The mask will not prevent the virus in a direct sneeze from getting into your nose or mouth - it is only to keep you from touching your nose or mouth.

3) Stock up now with hand sanitizers and latex/nitrile gloves (get the appropriate sizes for your family). The hand sanitizers must be alcohol-based and greater than 60% alcohol to be effective.

4) Stock up now with zinc lozenges. These lozenges have been proven to be effective in blocking coronavirus (and most other viruses) from multiplying in your throat and nasopharynx. Use as directed several times each day when you begin to feel ANY "cold-like" symptoms beginning. It is best to lie down and let the lozenge dissolve in the back of your throat and nasopharynx. Cold-Eeze lozenges is one brand available, but there are other brands available.

I, as many others do, hope that this pandemic will be reasonably contained, BUT I personally do not think it will be. Humans have never seen this snake-associated virus before and have no internal defense against it. Tremendous worldwide efforts are being made to understand the molecular and clinical virology of this virus. Unbelievable molecular knowledge about the genomics, structure, and virulence of this virus has already been achieved. BUT, there will be NO drugs or vaccines available this year to protect us or limit the infection within us. Only symptomatic support is available.

I hope these personal thoughts will be helpful during this potentially catastrophic pandemic. You are welcome to share this email. Good luck to all of us! Jim

James Robb, MD FCAP

Carl Goldman is the owner of KHTS radio in Santa Clarita, Calif.
Feb. 28, 2020 at 2:53 p.m. PST

I have the coronavirus. And it hasn’t been that bad.
I am in my late 60s, and the sickest I’ve ever been was when I had bronchitis several years ago. That laid me out on my back for a few days. This has been much easier: no chills, no body aches. I breathe easily, and I don’t have a stuffy nose. My chest feels tight, and I have coughing spells. If I were at home with similar symptoms, I probably would have gone to work as usual.
I caught the virus on the Diamond Princess, the cruise ship that was quarantined outside Yokohama for 14 days, at the end of a 16-day cruise I took with my wife, Jeri. When I left the ship a couple of weeks ago, I felt fine. We checked our temperatures throughout our quarantine. Jeri and I got a swab test for the virus. Our temperatures were normal; they’d get the swab results back in 48 hours. Our test results had not arrived before we boarded buses for the airport, where two U.S. government planes waited for us.
As we took off from Tokyo, I had a bit of a cough, but I chalked it up to the dry air in the cabin. I felt pretty tired — but who wouldn’t, in our situation? I dozed off.
When I woke up, I had a fever. I made my way to the back of the cargo plane, where the Air Force had set up a quarantine area cordoned off with sheets of plastic. They took my temperature. It was over 103 degrees. So I took a seat in the quarantine area and fell back asleep until we touched down in California, at Travis Air Force Base.
Officials from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention came onto the plane and said that three of us who had been cordoned off would fly to Omaha (with our spouses, if they wanted to come along). The CDC had a quarantine location at the University of Nebraska’s hospital. We arrived on Feb. 17, greeted by a fleet of ambulances and police cars. Officials put me on a stretcher and wheeled me into a van, which made for a very dramatic scene. I easily could have walked myself, despite my exhaustion.
On the hospital campus, they put me in a biocontainment unit. The space was sealed off, with two double-paned windows that looked out on the hallway, and a large, heavy, insulated door. Two cameras watched me at all times; a set of computer monitors were equipped with microphones, so that the medical staff and I could communicate with CDC officials at central command down the hall. The room had last been used for the Ebola outbreak in 2014.
A doctor and nurses reviewed my case with me and took a bunch of lab tests. They wore heavy-duty hazmat suits sealed with duct tape and equipped with motors that helped with air circulation. It looked like something out of “The Andromeda Strain.” When the test came back a few hours later, I wasn’t surprised to learn that I had the coronavirus. Later, the Tokyo swab confirmed the result — I had caught the virus even before I left the ship.
It didn’t scare me too badly. I knew my number was up. The way I saw it, I was going to get stuck in at least 14 more days of quarantine, even if I didn’t get the virus. So many fellow passengers had come down with the illness, including one of my friends, that I’d gotten somewhat used to the idea that I might catch it, too. My wife, however, tested negative and headed to quarantine at a separate facility a few blocks away. After those days being cooped up on the ship together, I think we both relished the alone time; we still could communicate through our phones.
During the first few days, the hospital staff hooked me up to an IV, mostly as a precaution, and used it to administer magnesium and potassium, just to make sure I had plenty of vitamins. Other than that, my treatment has consisted of what felt like gallons and gallons of Gatorade — and, when my fever rose just above 100 degrees, some ibuprofen. The nurses came to the room every four hours or so, to check my vitals, ask if I needed anything and to draw my blood. I got very good at unhooking all the monitors checking my oxygen level, blood pressure and heart rate so I could go to the bathroom or just pace around the room a little, to get my blood flowing. I never quite got the hang of hooking them back up without making a tangled mess. After 10 days, I moved out of biocontainment and into the same facility as Jeri. Now we can videochat from our separate quarantines, in neighboring rooms.
As of my most recent test, on Thursday, I am still testing positive for the virus. But by now, I don’t require much medical care. The nurses check my temperature twice a day and draw my blood, because I’ve agreed to participate in a clinical study to try to find a treatment for coronavirus. If I test negative three days in a row, then I get to leave.
The time has passed more quickly than I would’ve expected. With my laptop, I get as much work done as I can, remotely. I catch up with friends. I take walks around my room, trying to take a thousand more steps each day. I also watch the news. It’s surreal to see everyone panic — news conferences, the stock market falling, school closures — about a disease I have. It does seem likely that coronavirus will spread in the United States, but it won’t help anybody if we all panic. It’s true that the disease seems much more likely to be fatal for older people and those in poor health. I’m relatively fortunate: I’m still younger than the most at-risk groups, and I’m in good shape, giving me less cause for alarm. Others who contract the virus won’t be as lucky. At least six Diamond Princess passengers have died from the disease, of around 705 passengers who caught it.
Still, coronavirus doesn’t have to be a horrible calamity. Based on my experience, I’d recommend that everyone get a good digital thermometer, just as a comfort tool, so they can reassure themselves if their noses start running.
If you told me when I left home in January that I wouldn’t be back until March — that, instead, I would be confined for more than 24 days because I’d catch a novel virus at the center of what could become a pandemic — that would have completely freaked me out. But now that it’s happening, I’m just taking it one day at a time.
As told to Washington Post editor Sophia Nguyen.
Excellent info overall and excellent tips we can all do as well. Thank you!

jmo
 
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Coronavirus Live Updates: Murder Inquiry in Korea, and Louvre Shuts Temporarily

The coronavirus may have been in Washington State for weeks. South Korean officials are seeking an inquiry into leaders of a church at the center of the country’s outbreak on murder charges.

Right Now

Rhode Island reported its first “presumptive” coronavirus case, and the Louvre in Paris closed for a staff meeting to address the outbreak...
 
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List of ways to help prevent the virus, from the respected Mayo Clinic.
  • Wash your hands often with soap and water, or use an alcohol-based hand sanitizer.
  • Cover your mouth and nose with your elbow or tissue when you cough or sneeze.
  • Avoid touching your eyes, nose and mouth if your hands aren't clean.
  • Avoid close contact with anyone who is sick.
  • Avoid sharing dishes, glasses, bedding and other household items if you're sick.
  • Clean and disinfect surfaces you often touch.
  • Stay home from work, school and public areas if you're sick.
CDC doesn't recommend that healthy people wear a facemask to protect themselves from respiratory illnesses, including COVID-19. Only wear a mask if a health care provider tells you to do so.

Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) - Symptoms and causes
 
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1 March
  • 14:30: 3 new cases in the Netherlands. (Source)
  • 14:15: 1 new presumptive case in the United States. First in Rhode Island. Patient recently returned from Italy. (Source)
  • 14:00: 1 new death in South Korea. The other deaths mentioned in the article were previously reported. (Source)
  • 13:38: 12 new cases in England, United Kingdom. (Source)
  • 10:52: 2 new deaths in South Korea. The other death mentioned in the article was previously reported. (Source)
  • 10:50: 385 new cases and 11 new deaths in Iran. (Source)
  • 08:30: 210 new cases and 1 new death in South Korea. (Source)
  • 06:34: First death in Thailand. (Source)
Tracking coronavirus: Map, data and timeline
 
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the Louvre in Paris closed for a staff meeting to address the outbreak.
snipped by me.

I'm very interested in this - I'll just say this is starting to hit close to home if museums make changes. Thanks for bringing this to the thread.

I will be watching what the Louvre does.

jmo

eta: not sure why that quote box didn't work, but it's from @BetteDavisEyes post.
 
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The Rhode Island Department of Health has announced the first presumptive positive case of coronavirus disease in Rhode Island.
The DOH said the person is in their 40s and traveled to Italy in mid-February. The person is being treated at an area hospital, according to the DOH.
Gov. Gina Raimondo and the director of health, Dr. Nicole Alexander-Scott, will hold a news conference at 11:45 a.m. to answer any questions. The briefing will be carried live on NBC 10 and streamed on turnto10.com.

“The Rhode Island Department of Health has been preparing for weeks to ensure that we have a structure in place to, to the best of our ability, limit or prevent the spread of COVID-19 in Rhode Island. We fully anticipated having a first case of COVID-19,” said Alexander-Scott.

“We are not seeing widespread community transmission in Rhode Island, and the general level of risk for Rhode Islanders is still low," said Alexander-Scott. "However, everyone in Rhode Island has a role to play in helping us prevent the spread of viruses, just like the flu. It is very important that people wash their hands regularly, cover their coughs and sneezes, and stay home if they are sick.”

Health officials have begun reaching out to those who came in direct contact with the victim, making sure they undergo self-quarantine for 14 days with public health supervision.

The virus cannot be spread through the community as long as anyone exposed to the individual does not show symptoms outside of their home.

The DOH said the victim has not returned back to work since returning home from Italy and has had limited travel in Rhode Island.

Each presumptive positive test result must be confirmed by the CDC Laboratories, the DOH said.

RIDOH confirms first presumptive positive case of coronavirus in Rhode Island
 
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We might need masks to protect us from all these chemical cleaners lol

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Here’s another thing I do, I carry my OWN pen and don’t use the ones at the banks.

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More random musings:

I’m also finding it of interest that CA, OR, WA border each other.

Is this a trend? Maybe not. People travel all over. But it’s worth noting, imo.

Good idea about the pen. I carry a few but don't pay attention when I use someone else's. Will start paying attention!

I'm guessing no on the border thought between CA/OR/WA -- at least the CA/OR border is quite rural, other than the interstate going through. And also many hundreds of miles from the known cases. (which I'm glad for, because that's my territory!)


So, which five agents will get the masks? (/kidding, sort of)
 
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Who to trust?"

The World Health Organization
... says the outbreak has reached the “highest level” of risk for the world, with the director-general warning it can go in "any direction."

VP
... said there could be more deaths in the US from the coronavirus but emphasized most Americans should not worry about it.

Nope. Don't worry about deaths... Really said this?
 
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What a sad state of affairs

Chinese man sentenced to death for killing two officials at coronavirus checkpoint

From Chermaine Lee in Hong Kong

A Chinese man has been sentenced to death for killing two health officials at a coronavirus traffic check point in Yunnan province, according to a statement by the Yunnan provincial government.

The man drove a small van to the checkpoint and refused to follow instructions by the staff. Another passenger in the van got off and tried to remove a road block, despite warnings from staff members at the check point.

When one of the staffers started recording the incident as “evidence,” the driver of the van “felt dissatisfied” with the recording and started stabbing the staffer with a pocket knife in the chest and abdomen, according to the statement.

The man then moved on to stab the abdomen of another staff member at the checkpoint who came up to intervene. Both staff members died.

“Although the defendant (...) actively surrendered himself and truthfully confessed the facts of the crime, he used extremely cruel methods to kill two staff members of the epidemic prevention and control during the epidemic, and the consequences were extremely serious,” the statement said.
The statement added: “Therefore, the court decided not to impose a lenient sentence and gave the above verdict in accordance with the law."

The second passenger will be tried in a separate case, according to the statement.
 
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BREAKING: France's Louvre Museum forced to shut its doors after workers voice fears of becoming infected with coronavirus. Virus fears close down France's Louvre Museum

AP Europe on Twitter
That headline is a bit sensational when describing what's happening at the Louvre today. From the link, bolded by me:

"A short statement from the Louvre said a staff meeting about virus prevention efforts stopped the museum from opening as scheduled Sunday morning."

It's possible the museum will close, but that is NOT the case now. It closed for a meeting to discuss the virus. The Louvre didn't close because of the virus (not at this point).

Good for the staff for insisting on info from leadership. The people who work directly with the international public at museums are the guards, admissions desk, shop clerks, docents, etc. They deserve to know what the museum is doing in face of the virus.

But that headline is a bit off, imo.

jmo
 
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Comparatively. Dr. Campbell goes over this. To get into ER for fever, 100.4 is the threshold. ergo it's not a low grade fever that is exhibited with this disease, it is a fever over 100.4. He said that all ER's in his country use 100.4 as a delineation temp for low grade vs. high grade as a standard.

HTH

I don't seem to mount a fever response. I haven't had an actual fever since I was a child. I remember the last time I had strep as an early teen it never got over 99.? and I was actually sick enough to be hallucinating at the time. I got the flu a few years ago. Everyone in the house who got it got a fever. I still never got a fever. :/
 
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2) Use ONLY your knuckle to touch light switches. elevator buttons, etc.. Lift the gasoline dispenser with a paper towel or use a disposable glove.

3) Open doors with your closed fist or hip - do not grasp the handle with your hand, unless there is no other way to open the door. Especially important on bathroom and post office/commercial doors.

I do these all day at work already. I’m reallllly not a germaphobe but public places/work spaces are gross ....moo
Also keep an”cleaner hand” and pocket. Where my cellphone lives and I do wipe that down leaving work and during the day if I feel it’s gotten dirty . Your cell phones are gross people.
And ACK have been wearing a mask since September. Lots and lots of respiratory stuff (and intestinal stuff ew) going around this year

Excellent info overall and excellent tips we can all do as well. Thank you!

jmo
 
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Who to trust?"

The World Health Organization
... says the outbreak has reached the “highest level” of risk for the world, with the director-general warning it can go in "any direction."

VP
... said there could be more deaths in the US from the coronavirus but emphasized most Americans should not worry about it.

Nope. Don't worry about deaths... Really said this?
We will have more deaths, yes, but people in their daily lives should not be worried (to the point that worry hinders your life).

People today will surely die in car accidents across the nation, but we don't really "worry" about that. We are careful when driving and when walking around cars because being careful is a way to prevent car injuries and deaths....but still, deaths will occur.

jmo
 
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Kai Kupferschmidt

When Bruce Aylward gave a press conference on #covid19 this week in Geneva, he said: "The single biggest lesson is speed. Speed is everything and what worries me most is, has the rest of the world learned the lesson of speed?" It seems clear to me the world hasn’t. Quick thread
Kai Kupferschmidt on Twitter

With #SARSCoV2 the world always seems a step behind. Why? To some extent it’s normal. #SARSCoV2 has an incubation period of roughly 1 to 14 days. (I know there are reports of longer period. Biology isn’t black and white. Median incubation period is still about one week.)

It will usually take several generations, so several weeks, for a single case to have grown into an outbreak large enough that severe cases and deaths start popping up that get noticed and tested. And those severe diseases also need some time to develop after infection.

What does all of this mean? To me, at least, it suggest, that if there are public health interventions that we think may seem prudent in two or three weeks given our current trajectory, then we should be implementing those interventions today.

The smaller an outbreak is, the more likely we will be able to actually make a significant dent in it with social distancing etc. If we wait until the last moment, when the outbreak is visibly on the verge of being too big for that, we will actually be weeks too late.

Kai Kupferschmidt on Twitter
 
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