Coronavirus COVID-19 *Global Health Emergency* #9

[Windsorite]

From your link--

"The virus cannot be spread through the community as long as anyone exposed to the individual does not show symptoms outside of their home."

IMO
This is an oddly worded endorsement for the importance of staying home if you feel unwell. Should have been much clearer.

 

[papillon2126]

I don't seem to mount a fever response. I haven't had an actual fever since I was a child. I remember the last time I had strep as an early teen it never got over 99.? and I was actually sick enough to be hallucinating at the time. I got the flu a few years ago. Everyone in the house who got it got a fever. I still never got a fever. :/

I don't get fevers either. When I have my temperature taken at the doctor's office it is never even up to 98.6. I wonder if having hypothyroidism has anything to do with it? I am sure some of our knowledgeable medical professionals can give us the reason why not everyone will get a fever.

 

[Hatfield]

From your link--

"The virus cannot be spread through the community as long as anyone exposed to the individual does not show symptoms outside of their home."

This quote and misinformation greatly concerns me when said by officials disseminating information. WTF, you are saying they have to be symptomatic to spread. This is sooooooooooooooooo inaccurate :banghead: from old emoticons.

That is why I really appreciated the presser yesterday in Washington state that was 100% accurate from what we at WS know.

So glad we are here at WS and are "in the know" from sharing info. What can individuals do when officials are disseminating incorrect info... I dunno. If I share with others (ha, no one where I am are concerned) they won't believe me if I say officials are wrong. I can only do here and folks will agree/understand.

Oh, what to do.

ikr

The other day on one of the PC's I was watching a very similar erroneous statement was made and when further grilled by an audience question the official kind of admitted that you can spread it when having no symptoms yet but he then said most of the time you spread it when you have symptoms, or he said something close to that.

I was like.....well why didnt you make that very clear when you first told us that you were not even worried about the infected person spreading anything before they showed symptoms. The presumed positive infected person had already attended classes with other students. Why no contact tracing for everyone in all the infected persons classes just to be on the safe side even though the person had not showed symptoms yet?

IMO, I got the feeling the official was being disingeneous to us and either his staff couldnt handle all the contact tracing or they elected not to notify all classmates because they just didnt want the students parents to get all worried about it.

IMO , these officials need to just stick with the proven studies and well respected scientist's assessments and be very careful not to parrott off other officials, especially if the information is not even correct to begin with. Whether the news is good or bad, the officials need to just speaka the truth please .

 

[zecats]

Kids remain one of the biggest mysteries of COVID-19: Why aren't more of them getting sick? Are they infected more by the other, common coronaviruses that build their immunity? Remarkable Age Distribution of OC43 vs. SARS-CoV-2 in China
Jon Cohen on Twitter

Link to paper

Remarkable Age Distribution of OC43 vs. SARS-CoV-2 in China

And please keep it that way. My grandchildren catch enough stuff. I’d like them to remain safe from this, as I’m sure we all feel about the little ones in our lives.

 

[Tadpole12]

I don't get fevers either. When I have my temperature taken at the doctor's office it is never even up to 98.6. I wonder if having hypothyroidism has anything to do with it? I am sure some of our knowledgeable medical professionals can give us the reason why not everyone will get a fever.

Yep

Hypothyroidism and Your Internal Temperature

 

[Henry2326]

Thread: #COVID19 #Coronavirus updates & data.
I will repeat this, but really important: cases coming out of the US WILL EXPLODE in the coming days. This is NOT a cause for panic. These EXISTING cases are finally being diagnosed, since testing is now more broadly available.

(((Howard Forman))) on Twitter

 

[gregjrichards]

US confirms new case of coronavirus in Chicago - bringing total number of infected Americans to 72 as panic grips West Coast after first death from the pathogen

US confirms new case of coronavirus in Chicago - bringing total number of infected Americans to 72 | Daily Mail Online

 

[Amonet]

This was the first vivid description of (possible) symptoms that I've seen, though I haven't been reading as much as others. I know she hasn't been diagnosed. Does this match up with reports from elsewhere, anyone?

From the journal case studies that Dr John Campbell has gone over in his earlier videos, it doesn't sound strongly consistent with Covid-19.

In 'most' cases that have been documented, things like the cough and fever have come first, and maybe some diahhroea, though that might be more normal later in the progression of the disease. Runny nose, if it appears, seems to generally be occurring later in the progression of the disease as opposed to being one of the first things most people have with cold or flu. The Covid-19 seems to have most of its effects a lot lower down in the respiratory system, deep in the lungs below the place where you get bronchitis, and not really causing the classic 'cold' symptoms....

Aching, sore, and weak muscles, fever, tiredness, a dry and mostly unproductive cough....possibly diahhroea and vomiting (might only be one episode and that could be later on, maybe day 5 or so after symptoms start) and shortness of breath seem to be the main symptoms (according to the studies Dr John went over in his videos). Obviously it's not identical for every person, but the early runny nose doesn't seem to be a characteristic sign of it.

But, without being a doctor, those symptoms in a place like Evin prison don't sound good, and I would think could be at higher risk of progressing to bronchitis or pneumonia through secondary bacterial infection.

 

[Henry2326]

.@ScottGottliebMD now on @FaceTheNation discussing #COVID19

Gottlieb: We’ll have testing capacity perhaps as much as 20k a day in next two weeks once we bring on the academic labs. These are the major medical centers. Need to make real concerted effort to get a therapeutic. “Our savior is going to be our technology” #COVID19

Gottlieb: Right now there’s probably hundreds or low thousands of cases in the US that aren’t reported yet. Anyone’s individual risk is still very low but we need to get those cases diagnosed and treated. #COVID19

Gottlieb citing @trvrb study on Snohomish County cases suggesting hundreds or low thousands #COVID19

Gottlieb: One of the mistakes, challenges, was getting diagnostic testing place. I don’t want to armchair quarterback this, but we should have also been reaching out and getting lab-designed tests and manufacturers into the game, not just relying on CDC #COVID19

Meg Tirrell on Twitter

 

[Henry2326]

Zhong Jinxing, 32, a doctor in Guangxi has died from 'overwork' after 33 consecutive days in virus 'control and prevention.' On Feb 28, a coworker knocked down his dorm door and found him. He was reportedly married and had a 6 yr old daughter. 广西贺州一名医生因过度劳累倒在抗疫一线，年仅32岁_中国政库_澎湃新闻-The Paper Lily Kuo on Twitter

Lily Kuo on Twitter

 

[cody22]

(Yeah these all nighters covering the CV news isn’t helping my food stash any...now I’m into my frozen tator tot supply...seriously, I try not to buy some of this stuff usually...I usually plan for the week, watch my calories, cook with fresh ingredients, etc, and if I DO treat myself I only buy small quantities. I may die of diabetes or something before CV lol)

Good morning to all. Prostitutes, candy sheds, and now tater tots......I like this thread..........Where is the hot coffee ?................moo

 

[Inthedetails]

From the journal case studies that Dr John Campbell has gone over in his earlier videos, it doesn't sound strongly consistent with Covid-19.

In 'most' cases that have been documented, things like the cough and fever have come first, and maybe some diahhroea, though that might be more normal later in the progression of the disease. Runny nose, if it appears, seems to generally be occurring later in the progression of the disease as opposed to being one of the first things most people have with cold or flu. The Covid-19 seems to have most of its effects a lot lower down in the respiratory system, deep in the lungs below the place where you get bronchitis, and not really causing the classic 'cold' symptoms....

Aching, sore, and weak muscles, fever, tiredness, a dry and mostly unproductive cough....possibly diahhroea and vomiting (might only be one episode and that could be later on, maybe day 5 or so after symptoms start) and shortness of breath seem to be the main symptoms (according to the studies Dr John went over in his videos). Obviously it's not identical for every person, but the early runny nose doesn't seem to be a characteristic sign of it.

But, without being a doctor, those symptoms in a place like Evin prison don't sound good, and I would think could be at higher risk of progressing to bronchitis or pneumonia through secondary bacterial infection.

Thanks for that order of symptoms - sounds like how the flu feels when you first notice symptoms. In my experience, the first things I notice with the flu are muscle aches and extreme fatigue. Sounds like that might be the case with this virus??

jmo

 

[Henry2326]

Good morning to all. Prostitutes, candy sheds, and now tater tots......I like this thread..........Where is the hot coffee ?................moo

It's amazing what you talk about in the middle of the night....lol

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Question for anyone who has visited a medical facility (i.e. doctor's office, hospital, nursing home, etc.) recently: What specific practices are underway for screening of patients and/or visitors?

As I mentioned on Friday, new patients for physical therapy were being asked about recent international travel (I provided information about my January cruise) and any current health concerns (new patient with symptoms of a cold). When I was in my PCP's office on February 19, there was a notice on the registration desk for anyone who had been to Wuhan, China: Let staff know immediately, and they would provide mask and gloves. I wish I had read the entire notice, but since I hadn't been to China, I figured it didn't apply to me. By now, the notice was probably enhanced to include other parts of the globe where the virus has spread.

Beyond physical therapy visits on Wednesdays and Fridays for the next few months, I have only one medical appointment scheduled on March 11. I will definitely consider canceling if there are cases of COVID-19 reported locally.

 

[Henry2326]

Good morning to all. Prostitutes, candy sheds, and now tater tots......I like this thread..........Where is the hot coffee ?................moo

It's amazing what you talk about in the middle of the night....lol

 

[Lilibet]

My husband and I are on the Safety Team at our church. Much of the focus is on preparing for and possible prevention of an active shooter situation. We also prepare for a possible medical emergency during service. I think I'll suggest a meeting to discuss preparing for possible COVID-19 infection. People sit close, hug each other and unfortunately some seem to think it's an honor to drag themselves to church regardless of how sick they are.

YES!! I have been planning to discuss this with ones in my congregation this morning. It’s a huge concern for me. And we have the same ones who think they get “points” for being there even if they’re sick...despite the fact that we can listen on the phone. And of course, we can probably catch it from someone without symptoms.

 

[Amonet]

Twelve more patients in England have tested positive for coronavirus, taking the total number of UK cases to 35.

Three patients were close contacts of a known case which was transmitted in the UK, chief medical officer Prof Chris Whitty said.

One person from Essex had "no relevant travel" and it was unclear how they had contracted the virus.

Out of the remaining eight cases, six had recently returned from Italy and two had been to Iran.

Those eight patients were from London, West Yorkshire, Greater Manchester, Hertfordshire and Gloucestershire and include:

• One person from Bury, who had become infected in Italy.
• Two Leeds residents, who had both been in Iran
• One person from Bradford, who had travelled to Italy

Twelve more coronavirus cases takes UK total to 35

 

[justbeachy]

My hands are already dry from the increase in hand-washing and (probably the more likely culprit) use of hand sanitizer. I haven't found a lotion I love (too greasy, too smelly, too slimy)...does anyone have a favorite that they can recommend?

 

[zecats]

Question for anyone who has visited a medical facility (i.e. doctor's office, hospital, nursing home, etc.) recently: What specific practices are underway for screening of patients and/or visitors?

As I mentioned on Friday, new patients for physical therapy were being asked about recent international travel (I provided information about my January cruise) and any current health concerns (new patient with symptoms of a cold). When I was in my PCP's office on February 19, there was a notice on the registration desk for anyone who had been to Wuhan, China: Let staff know immediately, and they would provide mask and gloves. I wish I had read the entire notice, but since I hadn't been to China, I figured it didn't apply to me. By now, the notice was probably enhanced to include other parts of the globe where the virus has spread.

Beyond physical therapy visits on Wednesdays and Fridays for the next few months, I have only one medical appointment scheduled on March 11. I will definitely consider canceling if there are cases of COVID-19 reported locally.

I have an appt tomorrow in fact. A wellness check up and bloodwork for my cholesterol meds prescription. I pretty much have to go.

 

[gregjrichards]

Zhong Jinxing, 32, a doctor in Guangxi has died from 'overwork' after 33 consecutive days in virus 'control and prevention.' On Feb 28, a coworker knocked down his dorm door and found him. He was reportedly married and had a 6 yr old daughter. 广西贺州一名医生因过度劳累倒在抗疫一线，年仅32岁_中国政库_澎湃新闻-The Paper Lily Kuo on Twitter

Lily Kuo on Twitter

This is a terrible tragedy it is awful that healthcare workers are dying to save the lives of others either through exhaustion or the virus. The Chinese authorities need to ensure health workers get rests they cannot work continue to work these poor people to death.