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No evidence to support Covid booster jabs for general population, Lancet review says | Daily Mail Online


There is no evidence yet to support dishing out Covid booster vaccines to the entire population, a major scientific review has concluded.

Experts writing in the Lancet admitted there may be 'some gain' from administering top-up jabs.

But they insisted protection from two doses is so high — including against the more infectious Delta strain — that they are not currently routinely needed.

They said extra jabs should be given to the unvaccinated, in a call to arms to jab the third-world which is lagging behind in the global roll-out.

Boris Johnson is expected to finally set out Britain's approach to Covid booster jabs tomorrow, when he unveils his virus-fighting plans for this winter.
 
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No evidence to support Covid booster jabs for general population, Lancet review says | Daily Mail Online


There is no evidence yet to support dishing out Covid booster vaccines to the entire population, a major scientific review has concluded.

Experts writing in the Lancet admitted there may be 'some gain' from administering top-up jabs.

But they insisted protection from two doses is so high — including against the more infectious Delta strain — that they are not currently routinely needed.

They said extra jabs should be given to the unvaccinated, in a call to arms to jab the third-world which is lagging behind in the global roll-out.

Boris Johnson is expected to finally set out Britain's approach to Covid booster jabs tomorrow, when he unveils his virus-fighting plans for this winter.

So what to make of this information---- Wonder what the FDA will do in the United States--- Seems like boosters worked for Israel when it seemed they were being inundated with new cases of Delta
 
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This should be required reading for the anti-maskers and unvaccinated
I dont think it would change their minds to be honest. I dont think anything will, unless it involves stopping them doing something they want to.

I feel this is the situation now, people who will, people who wont. And meanwhile we just have to navigate our way along making our own lifestyle choices as we go, based on our own assessment of risk vs quality of life.

Its tricky, to say the least.
 
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I was talking to a friend about this the other day. I feel like I'm living in a different world compared to so many who are back to "normal" life.
It sickens me to see ABC, NBC, and CBS have reported at the morning broadcast and evening go into minute details regarding the horrors of the pandemic, and now these same networks have music awards and show where there is no social distancing or masks in the audience.
 
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Apparently, the new word for immunization is a jab. My just turned 12 y/o grandchild wants to get the Covid-19 immunization however, the word jab is somewhat off-putting to him.
 
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It sickens me to see ABC, NBC, and CBS have reported at the morning broadcast and evening go into minute details regarding the horrors of the pandemic, and now these same networks have music awards and show where there is no social distancing or masks in the audience.
I agree with you about mainstream media: they are encouraging all these unvaxxed and unmasked people to live life as though there is no pandemic: it gets on my one last nerve! They talk about how great it is all these people at football games, etc.- living life normally!!!!!

Mainstream media is giving out mixed messages!
"Be safe" but go have a blast at a football game"
 
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I dont think it would change their minds to be honest. I dont think anything will, unless it involves stopping them doing something they want to.

I feel this is the situation now, people who will, people who wont. And meanwhile we just have to navigate our way along making our own lifestyle choices as we go, based on our own assessment of risk vs quality of life.

Its tricky, to say the least.

You are right about how we must make lifestyle choices based on our own risk v. quality of life---
 
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Apparently, the new word for immunization is a jab. My just turned 12 y/o grandchild wants to get the Covid-19 immunization however, the word jab is somewhat off-putting to him.
Is it better than a shot? :D

We grew up with "jabs", must have made its way over. Shots come in glasses (mine's a Tequila :p).

Seriously tho, just goes to show the power of words.
 
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Thanks for posting these. The second link is especially interesting to me. I don't want to have a "mild" Covid infection, much less a serious one. I'm elderly and have underlying conditions and my goal is to avoid Covid entirely, if possible.

As the author writes about his illness:

In my case, it was worse than expected, but in the parlance of public health, it was "mild," meaning I didn't end up in the hospital or require oxygen. [He also noted in the article that he felt "low" for weeks after his illness.]

This mild category is essentially a catchall, says Dr. Robert Wachter, who chairs the Department of Medicine at the University of California, San Francisco. "Mild" can be "a day of feeling crummy to being completely laid up in bed for a week, all of your bones hurt and your brain isn't working well."

"So even if we call them mild cases, as you've seen, sometimes these are ones you really don't want to have if you can avoid it," he says.
 
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Is it better than a shot? :D

We grew up with "jabs", must have made its way over. Shots come in glasses (mine's a Tequila :p).

Seriously tho, just goes to show the power of words.
Mine called everything “a little pinch”.
 
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Apparently, the new word for immunization is a jab. My just turned 12 y/o grandchild wants to get the Covid-19 immunization however, the word jab is somewhat off-putting to him.
For what it's worth, I'm a grown woman and don't care for the "jab" term, haha. Makes me think of "stab." I just say shot/vaccine
 
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Sigh. From the article (BBM):

Union County Public Health Director Dennis Joyner sent a letter on Friday to the county school district with COVID-19 recommendations. The letter was sent as cases and the number of students and staff members quarantined continue to rise in Union County.

As of Friday, 479 students and employees had tested positive for the virus, and 7,285 were in quarantine.

Union County Schools is one of only five districts in North Carolina where masks are optional. In the letter from Joyner, he advised that masks be required. He also said a 14-day quarantine is the best option to help prevent the spread of COVID-19.

“Without a universal mask requirement in Union County public schools, a 14-day quarantine period remains the best option to provide for the protection of student, teachers, staff and members of the community,” the letter said.
 
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Sigh. From the article (BBM):



As of Friday, 479 students and employees had tested positive for the virus, and 7,285 were in quarantine.

Union County Schools is one of only five districts in North Carolina where masks are optional. In the letter from Joyner, he advised that masks be required. He also said a 14-day quarantine is the best option to help prevent the spread of COVID-19.


But instead, the board decided this!
UNION COUNTY, N.C. — The Union County Public School Board voted Monday morning to end COVID-19 contact tracing and quarantining for non-positive students and staff.

That means students can go to school even if they have come in close contact with someone who is COVID positive. The only people who have to stay home are those who have tested positive or have symptoms.

The decision is effective immediately
 
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Thanks for posting these. The second link is especially interesting to me. I don't want to have a "mild" Covid infection, much less a serious one. I'm elderly and have underlying conditions and my goal is to avoid Covid entirely, if possible.

As the author writes about his illness:

In my case, it was worse than expected, but in the parlance of public health, it was "mild," meaning I didn't end up in the hospital or require oxygen. [He also noted in the article that he felt "low" for weeks after his illness.]

This mild category is essentially a catchall, says Dr. Robert Wachter, who chairs the Department of Medicine at the University of California, San Francisco. "Mild" can be "a day of feeling crummy to being completely laid up in bed for a week, all of your bones hurt and your brain isn't working well."

"So even if we call them mild cases, as you've seen, sometimes these are ones you really don't want to have if you can avoid it," he says.


I am with you-- I dont want even a mild case which is why I live my
life like i did before I got vaccinated-- the author of this article
threw caution to the wind and he paid the price
 
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But instead, the board decided this!
UNION COUNTY, N.C. — The Union County Public School Board voted Monday morning to end COVID-19 contact tracing and quarantining for non-positive students and staff.

That means students can go to school even if they have come in close contact with someone who is COVID positive. The only people who have to stay home are those who have tested positive or have symptoms.

The decision is effective immediately
They don't want to know how bad it is. The Facebook pages of news stations from some of those areas are inundated with comments like 'Stop scaremongering' 'Using fear to control us' on any article giving updates on virus numbers.
 
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Seems very odd that Congress, who by definition are hired to work for the American people, are not required to get a vaccine.
Reminds me of when Congress was exempt from Obamacare and the tax penalty for not having acquired Obamacare.

This second part is a false claim.

Obamacare Myths - FactCheck.org

Claim: Congress is exempt from the law.

FactCheck.org says: False.

Several versions of this claim have been circulating since before the Affordable Care Act was passed. But no matter how many different ways the critics spin it, Congress isn’t exempt from the law. In fact, members and their staffs face additional requirements that other Americans don’t. Beginning in 2014, they can no longer get insurance through the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program, as they and other federal employees have done. Instead, they are required to get insurance through the insurance exchanges.

This “exempt” nonsense first percolated before that provision was added to the law through a Republican amendment. Before the amendment, the legislation said that Congress — as well as federal employees, employees of large companies, and those who get insurance through Medicare or Medicaid — wouldn’t be eligible for the exchanges, which were created by the law for those buying their own insurance and small businesses. But that certainly didn’t make Congress “exempt” — lawmakers were treated like any other worker with employer-provided health insurance. They were required to have coverage or face a penalty.

Congress, the Affordable Care Act, and the Myth of the ‘Exemption’

Busting Congressional Myths


And has already been pointed out: The President has limited powers and cannot control the legislative branch (that would require legislation to be passed - such as the ACA). However, he can impose Federal employee mandates on the executive branch.

“The federal government has ample power to regulate health and safety in the workplace,” Mr. Gostin said. “Employers have a legal obligation to comply with evidence-based federal health safety standards.”

New vaccine requirements apply to a broad range of the national work force.
 
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