Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #100

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Everybody who attended Obama's party was vaccinated and had a covid test.
Does your neighbor do the same?

They definitely did something right at the party. Requiring a covid test prior to attending the party could have been the game changer. imo


.... attendees were pressed to adhere to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention public health protocols.
Tisbury health agent and boards of health spokesperson Maura Valley said, "As of today, I haven't seen any cases linked to the Obama party"

While it is still possible a link to Obama's birthday party could be found, time for that is running out as most estimates of the incubation period for COVID-19 range up to 14 days.
"We still have contact tracing going on, but I think if there were cases popping up from the party, we'd be seeing them already," Valley said.
COVID-19 cases spiking in Martha's Vineyard, but no link to Obama's birthday party reported two weeks later

All guests were required to take Covid tests before the event
Everything We Know About Barack Obama’s 60th Birthday Party
 
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Veronica Wolski, Chicago Anti-Vax Activist and QAnon Supporter, Dies of COVID at 64
Mon, September 13, 2021, 1:34 PM
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Veronica Wolski, Chicago Anti-Vax Activist and QAnon Supporter, Dies of COVID at 64

Veronica Wolski, a well-known QAnon supporter who was skeptical of COVID-19 vaccines, died of the virus early Monday. Her Telegram account, per the Tribune, was full of posts “showing a disdain for masking, vaccines and other mainstream approaches to avoiding COVID-19.”

Wolski was hospitalized in Chicago and in the days leading up to her death, the hospital was inundated with calls from her supporters,
demanding that she be given Ivermectin, a drug that can be used to deworm livestock or humans, depending on the formulation.

Her supporters contacted the hospital with their demands for a week, but the hospital previously said its doctors and clinicians were following Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidance and would not prescribe Ivermectin for COVID-19.

On Sunday, Lin Wood, a lawyer known for his support of former President Donald Trump and his false claims that the 2020 election was somehow rigged or stolen, posted a video to Telegram on Sunday that showed him calling the hospital, demanding her release and suggesting the institution could be charged for murder if they didn’t discharge Wolski.

“There’s an ambulance waiting for her outside. There’s a medical doctor waiting for her to treat her. If you do not release her, you’re going to be guilty of murder. Do you understand what murder is?” he asked.
 
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Veronica Wolski, Chicago Anti-Vax Activist and QAnon Supporter, Dies of COVID at 64
Mon, September 13, 2021, 1:34 PM
41f764350782ede5d320cb7ebd636836

Veronica Wolski, Chicago Anti-Vax Activist and QAnon Supporter, Dies of COVID at 64

Veronica Wolski, a well-known QAnon supporter who was skeptical of COVID-19 vaccines, died of the virus early Monday. Her Telegram account, per the Tribune, was full of posts “showing a disdain for masking, vaccines and other mainstream approaches to avoiding COVID-19.”

Wolski was hospitalized in Chicago and in the days leading up to her death, the hospital was inundated with calls from her supporters,
demanding that she be given Ivermectin, a drug that can be used to deworm livestock or humans, depending on the formulation.

Her supporters contacted the hospital with their demands for a week, but the hospital previously said its doctors and clinicians were following Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidance and would not prescribe Ivermectin for COVID-19.

On Sunday, Lin Wood, a lawyer known for his support of former President Donald Trump and his false claims that the 2020 election was somehow rigged or stolen, posted a video to Telegram on Sunday that showed him calling the hospital, demanding her release and suggesting the institution could be charged for murder if they didn’t discharge Wolski.

“There’s an ambulance waiting for her outside. There’s a medical doctor waiting for her to treat her. If you do not release her, you’re going to be guilty of murder. Do you understand what murder is?” he asked.

I actually wish that the hospital had released her into their care. But I wonder what her wishes were.
 
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How do you know that? I didn't think those kinds of details of a private party, are available online.


And, even if they were, it was a poor example to set. We know vaccinated people can become infected and shed the virus. They should have known better.

Parties, can--and should--cease for the time being. Everyone's health depends on it.

However, there are so very many other things that people are doing--not masking, not contact tracing, not social distancing--that I'm not sure a party is any worse.
 
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And, even if they were, it was a poor example to set. We know vaccinated people can become infected and shed the virus. They should have known better.

Parties, can--and should--cease for the time being. Everyone's health depends on it.

However, there are so very many other things that people are doing--not masking, not contact tracing, not social distancing--that I'm not sure a party is any worse.
Obama's guests were vaccinated and had a covid test prior to the party. Nothing is a 100 % of course, but one can do things responsibly. I am much more concerned about all those sports events where there is no social distancing, no proof of vaccination, and no coivd tests required. And tens of thousands of people attend.
 
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Not sure if this has been posted as it is from Sept 2nd but just WOW:

Ask for COVID-19 vaccine proof, face a US$5,000 fine in Florida

ETA: I did use the search feature on this thread and it didn't come up as already posted...

People in Florida are notorious for acting against their own best interest. No doubt this is an attempt to silence anyone who tries to expose the sneaky ways in which inequality is sustained. We know that certain minority groups are more vulnerable to covid than others. The rule makers are the least vulnerable.
 
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Even worse are the people who claim doctors and nurses are lying about the overcrowded ICUs and even lie and say that they work in a hospital and their hospital has plenty of free beds.
This...I will never forgive the unvaccinated for what they are doing to our healthcare system and the workers. Very shameful. IMO
 
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This...I will never forgive the unvaccinated for what they are doing to our healthcare system and the workers. Very shameful. IMO

It is, as you say, shameful, and unforgiveable ----
 
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Jeff Bridges says he got Covid while in chemo and it made 'cancer look like a piece of cake' (nbcnews.com)

"Covid kicked my 🤬🤬🤬 pretty good, but I'm double vaccinated and feeling much better," Bridges wrote on his website Monday.

Oscar-winning actor Jeff Bridges said Monday that his lymphoma is in remission, and he is feeling better after battling Covid-19, which he said made "cancer look like a piece of cake."

"My cancer is in remission — the 9x12 mass has shrunk down to the size of a marble," Bridges, probably best known for playing The Dude in 1998's "The Big Lebowski," wrote on his website.

Bridges, 71, announced in October of last year that he had been diagnosed with lymphoma, a type of blood cancer. He said at the time that his prognosis was "good" and he was starting treatment.

On Monday, Bridges also shared that his "Covid is the rearview mirror."...
 
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And, even if they were, it was a poor example to set. We know vaccinated people can become infected and shed the virus. They should have known better.

Parties, can--and should--cease for the time being. Everyone's health depends on it.

However, there are so very many other things that people are doing--not masking, not contact tracing, not social distancing--that I'm not sure a party is any worse.

Yet, virions from vaccinated people are less infectious than those from the unvaccinated - despite similar numbers of virions.

That's because the antibodies from the vaccine attach themselves to the COVID virions in the nasal passages - so that the virions are already neutralized, thereby dramatically cutting the risk of a vaccinated person passing it on.
 
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I know some people here, in Australia are calling it a jab. I've always called them a "shot"

I wonder if there is some reason behind not calling it a "shot" anymore. Until the last month or so, I'de never heard it referred to as a "jab"

All I know is that people who've never heard shots called "jabs" feel horrified by the word (source: polling my students as to how they feel about various COVID terms). "Jab" sounds awful and it made me wonder if that word alone wasn't making some people squeamish.

It's a tiny shot. Little itty bitty needle and there's no "jab" when it goes in...
 
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All I know is that people who've never heard shots called "jabs" feel horrified by the word (source: polling my students as to how they feel about various COVID terms). "Jab" sounds awful and it made me wonder if that word alone wasn't making some people squeamish.

It's a tiny shot. Little itty bitty needle and there's no "jab" when it goes in...

I don't like the word "jab", either. I also wish that the media would stop using the phrase "shots in arms". I cringe every time I hear it :mad: Many people do not like needles or injections of any kind and are probably turned off to the vaccine when they hear "shots in arms". JMO
 
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Yet, virions from vaccinated people are less infectious than those from the unvaccinated - despite similar numbers of virions.

That's because the antibodies from the vaccine attach themselves to the COVID virions in the nasal passages - so that the virions are already neutralized, thereby dramatically cutting the risk of a vaccinated person passing it on.


That's encouraging!

Still, the CDC is suggesting that everyone social distance, wear masks, and get the jab. For now.

When public figures participate in events that are perceived as bordering on impropriety, it may seem hypocritical. I'm not judging the right or the wrong of the party, but it's not surprising that many view it as wrong and hypocritical. We look to leaders to set examples.

Of course, there are much worse events taking place.
 
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I'm still going to call my flu shot, a flu shot, so there jab!

But jab has really taken over in the past week or so here.
I don't like the idea of being jabbed, though when I think of it, shot could sound pretty violent too.

Maybe we could say we got our Vaxx today :) Nothing jabby or shooty there :)

This is like an argument here with an aquaintance ages ago over what you call those draught stoppers, in our house we called them a snake, in their house they called them a sausage. :D

I might start saying vaxx and see if I can get a trend going.
 
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I'm still going to call my flu shot, a flu shot, so there jab!

But jab has really taken over in the past week or so here.
I don't like the idea of being jabbed, though when I think of it, shot could sound pretty violent too.

Maybe we could say we got our Vaxx today :) Nothing jabby or shooty there :)

This is like an argument here with an aquaintance ages ago over what you call those draught stoppers, in our house we called them a snake, in their house they called them a sausage. :D

I might start saying vaxx and see if I can get a trend going.

I've been saying vaxxed, will vax, did vax, etc. I'm on board with your mission to change the word, ha.
 
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