Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #100

[GRT]

It really bugs me- like if a person is having a heart attack and needs to be hospitalized to save their life---- well, tough toenails tootsie for them- all of our beds are occupied with Covid patients-- so I guess that patient will just have to die ( and we know this is happening every day)- what kind of health system is that?

It bothers me, too, and with some health workers quitting over the stress and others out due to having been infected and needing to quarantine, it stresses an over-stressed system even more.

Ethically, maybe they figure the best they can do is a first-come-first-serve basis.

At my mother's nursing home, very few residents are infected--I think it was two last they emailed me. But, seven staff members are now out with the virus. That tells me they weren't vaccinated--although they won't actually reveal that information.

That leaves fewer staff to care for residents, and they were already short-staffed. I am still allowed to meet my mom outdoors and push her around in her wheelchair, but that's only because the virus isn't in her "hall." If someone in her hall becomes infected, that will end. What happened to health workers needing to get the shot? Why are so many reluctant? It's a major source of frustration for me.

 

[SouthAussie]

It bothers me, too, and with some health workers quitting over the stress and others out due to having been infected and needing to quarantine, it stresses an over-stressed system even more.

Ethically, maybe they figure the best they can do is a first-come-first-serve basis.

At my mother's nursing home, very few residents are infected--I think it was two last they emailed me. But, seven staff members are now out with the virus. That tells me they weren't vaccinated--although they won't actually reveal that information.

That leaves fewer staff to care for residents, and they were already short-staffed. I am still allowed to meet my mom outdoors and push her around in her wheelchair, but that's only because the virus isn't in her "hall." If someone in her hall becomes infected, that will end. What happened to health workers needing to get the shot? Why are so many reluctant? It's a major source of frustration for me.

I can't remember where you are situated, I think maybe Kansas?

Apparently, there is no deadline for the federal mandate on vaccinations in long term care facilities in the US.

Federal vaccine mandate may spur worker shortage at Kansas care sites

Also, in that state, there are forces that are threatening to only allow hospitals that do not have a vaccination policy to receive extra pay for their nurses. (Which completely befuddles me.)

https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article253985503.html

 

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[GRT]

It really bugs me- like if a person is having a heart attack and needs to be hospitalized to save their life---- well, tough toenails tootsie for them- all of our beds are occupied with Covid patients-- so I guess that patient will just have to die ( and we know this is happening every day)- what kind of health system is that?

It bothers me, too, and with some health workers quitting over the stress and others out due to having been infected and needing to quarantine, it stresses an over-stressed system even more.

Ethically, maybe they figure the best they can do is a first-come-first-serve basis.

At my mother's nursing home, very few residents are infected--I think it was two last they emailed me. But, seven staff members are now out with the virus. That tells me they weren't vaccinated--although they won't actually reveal that information.

That leaves fewer staff to care for residents, and they were already short-staffed. I am still allowed to meet my mom outdoors and push her around in her wheelchair, but that's only because the virus isn't in her "hall." If someone in her hall becomes infected, that will end. What happened to health workers needing to get the shot? Why are so many reluctant? It's a major source of frustration for me.

I can't remember where you are situated, I think maybe Kansas?

Apparently, there is no deadline for the federal mandate on vaccinations in long term care facilities in the US.

Federal vaccine mandate may spur worker shortage at Kansas care sites

Also, in that state, there are forces that are threatening to only allow hospitals that do not have a vaccination policy to receive extra pay for their nurses. (Which completely befuddles me.)

https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article253985503.html

Kansas. Yes. Thanks for that article, I hadn't read that one yet, but it sure seems to mimic what I'm hearing and seeing. I think nearly all of the 115 residents in the facility are vaccinated, but I can't be sure. When we first put my mother in the home, we were told they'd recently had staff quit, and I wonder if the mandate was part of that.

That's crazy about extra pay for nurses who work in facilities that do not mandate the vaccine. Perhaps they think those nurses are at a higher risk of getting ill. But, all they have to do is voluntarily get the shot.

 

[ilovewings]

It bothers me, too, and with some health workers quitting over the stress and others out due to having been infected and needing to quarantine, it stresses an over-stressed system even more.

Ethically, maybe they figure the best they can do is a first-come-first-serve basis.

At my mother's nursing home, very few residents are infected--I think it was two last they emailed me. But, seven staff members are now out with the virus. That tells me they weren't vaccinated--although they won't actually reveal that information.

That leaves fewer staff to care for residents, and they were already short-staffed. I am still allowed to meet my mom outdoors and push her around in her wheelchair, but that's only because the virus isn't in her "hall." If someone in her hall becomes infected, that will end. What happened to health workers needing to get the shot? Why are so many reluctant? It's a major source of frustration for me.



Kansas. Yes. Thanks for that article, I hadn't read that one yet, but it sure seems to mimic what I'm hearing and seeing. I think nearly all of the 115 residents in the facility are vaccinated, but I can't be sure. When we first put my mother in the home, we were told they'd recently had staff quit, and I wonder if the mandate was part of that.

That's crazy about extra pay for nurses who work in facilities that do not mandate the vaccine. Perhaps they think those nurses are at a higher risk of getting ill. But, all they have to do is voluntarily get the shot.

I cannot understand how nurses, nursing assistants, etc., anyone who has hands on care of patients, can think it is ok not to get vaccinated, thereby exposing vulnerable patients (and nursing home residents) to a potentially fatal virus. It boggles my mind.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Unvaccinated mother, 55, and daughter, 32, both die of Covid | Daily Mail Online

And here's more

 

[ilovewings]

Unvaccinated mother, 55, and daughter, 32, both die of Covid | Daily Mail Online

And here's more

I have run out of words to describe these situations- preventable deaths

 

[weepingangel]

Ooooooo got a free box of (5) kn95s when I got tested today

no symptoms but it’s convenient and fairly quick and gives me some small peace of mind

 

[musicaljoke]

I cannot understand how nurses, nursing assistants, etc., anyone who has hands on care of patients, can think it is ok not to get vaccinated, thereby exposing vulnerable patients (and nursing home residents) to a potentially fatal virus. It boggles my mind.

I believe they must hold onto an alternate reality.

 

[GRT]

I cannot understand how nurses, nursing assistants, etc., anyone who has hands on care of patients, can think it is ok not to get vaccinated, thereby exposing vulnerable patients (and nursing home residents) to a potentially fatal virus. It boggles my mind.

Agreed. I feel as though I'm missing something--something important--because I don't understand how those in health fields are resisting the vaccine at such high percentages.

Of all groups, these are the ones I expect to be the most proactive, not the most resistant.

 

[musicaljoke]

Agreed. I feel as though I'm missing something--something important--because I don't understand how those in health fields are resisting the vaccine at such high percentages.

Of all groups, these are the ones I expect to be the most proactive, not the most resistant.

'Tis a mystery.

The antivaxxer include all types, such as volunteers and scads of others who may have no health background. We hear of some white coats refusing vaccinations, but we can take heart that the vast majority of health professionals have been vaccinated.

 

[mickey2942]

https://www.ktvh.com/news/coronavirus/st-peters-health-we-are-in-crisis-standards-of-care

This new Covid surge is really hitting rural areas hard. Stay healthy peeps!

 

[jjenny]

https://www.ktvh.com/news/coronavirus/st-peters-health-we-are-in-crisis-standards-of-care

This new Covid surge is really hitting rural areas hard. Stay healthy peeps!

Lox vaxx rates in rural areas.

 

[Lilibet]

https://www.ktvh.com/news/coronavirus/st-peters-health-we-are-in-crisis-standards-of-care

This new Covid surge is really hitting rural areas hard. Stay healthy peeps!

Yup. Rural Jackson and Josephine counties in Southern Oregon report for September 15 & 16 from the Asante system (three hospitals: Medford, Ashland and Grants Pass). But of course the vax resistant find reasons to disbelieve their eyes.

https://www.asante.org/app/files/pu...c2a8133/Asante_COVID-19_Cases_Infographic.pdf

 

[Satchie]

Agreed. I feel as though I'm missing something--something important--because I don't understand how those in health fields are resisting the vaccine at such high percentages.

Of all groups, these are the ones I expect to be the most proactive, not the most resistant.

IMO, many people work in health care for the pay check, not because they care

 

[SouthAussie]

<RSBM>
That's crazy about extra pay for nurses who work in facilities that do not mandate the vaccine. Perhaps they think those nurses are at a higher risk of getting ill. But, all they have to do is voluntarily get the shot.

Could be. Those unvaccinated nurses are more likely to get very sick, and extra money may be needed to bring in higher priced nursing assistance from elsewhere.

From what I understand, the extra money can be used for pay increases - to hang onto staff - and can also be used for any extra nursing resources needed. It just has to be applied to nursing staff, and nothing else.

 

[MimosaMornings]

IMO, many people work in health care for the pay check, not because they care

There are anti-vaxxers among all careers - LE, firefighters, EMT’s, nurses, home health, etc.

Wanting to “wait” (For what? Another 6 months? A year? Until you finally get Covid and die?)

Not afraid of Covid? (How many Covid versus vaccine deaths do you need to be convinced?)

“Shrug” or “eh” attitude. (Fine. Superglue a plastic band on your arm stating DNR or no emergency assistance wanted so we honor your wishes)

JMO

 

[jennieohhh]

Covid US: BABIES could be given low-dose of Pfizer's jab this winter | Daily Mail Online

Pfizer's Covid vaccine could be rolled out to babies as young as six months in the US this winter, under plans being drawn up by the pharmaceutical giant.

In a move likely to cause international controversy, the company intends to apply for authorisation to immunise American infants within the next two months.

The timeline will depend on the findings of in-house trials looking into whether the vaccines are safe and effective in youngsters aged six months to five years.

Frank D'Amelio, chief financial officer at Pfizer, told an industry conference yesterday that the firm plans to 'go file' by November, the Financial Times reports

Horrifying.

 

[MimosaMornings]

Hospital staff must swear off Tylenol, Tums to get religious vaccine exemption — Ars Technica

 

[jjenny]

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Because people need hospital beds not just for covid. But when all the hospital beds are filled with un-vaxxed covid patients, where are people with other problems are supposed to go?
After they become sick with covid and can't breathe, all of the sudden they start believing in medical care and end up filling all the hospital beds.