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Covid survivors plagued with symptoms weeks after beating the illness have 'micro blood clots' | Daily Mail Online


Long Covid could be caused by an overload of tiny clots 'trapped' inside people's blood weeks after they clear the initial infection, scientists say.

The small study found patients who are 'long haulers' have a large amount of inflammatory molecules trapped in their bloodstream.

These blockages have the potential to disrupt the body's ability to distribute oxygen and vital nutrients, they said.

It could explain long Covid's most common symptoms, such as fatigue, headaches and breathing difficulties.

The South African researcher who made the discovery said the micro clots may be the cause of long Covid or one of several contributing factors.
 
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Nearly a dozen students at Mount Royal University in Calgary (Alberta) have been deregistered from classes by administration after refusing to say whether they have had their COVID-19 shots.

MRU's policy is that anyone — student, staff or visitor — attending the campus for any reason requires proof of vaccination or a negative rapid test result.

The university says 22 students enrolled for in-person classes were initially deregistered last month after refusing to declare their vaccination status. But when given a second chance, half of those students did declare.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/mru-students-deregistered-vaccination-status-1.6199073.
 
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/10/04/kids-covid-cases-tennessee/

Covid cases in kids are soaring. In Tennessee most remain unmasked
and unvaccinated.

Comments of note
. states with high vaccination rates are seeing far fewer pediatric cases.
.In Tenn. just 27 percent of those ages 12-17 across the state are vaccinated.
v 52% percent nationwide.
. Across Grundy county and other areas, there are some complaints
about the pandemic response, but most people seem to accept the
virus will be part of their lives and they do not feel the need to battle
it with the tools most public health experts recommend. That means
missed school days, with schools across the state forced to temporarily
close, and thousands of student cases reported.
THEY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT MASKS AND VACCINES ARE THE SOLUTION.

What can one say about that thought process?????
 
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/10/04/kids-covid-cases-tennessee/

Covid cases in kids are soaring. In Tennessee most remain unmasked
and unvaccinated.

Comments of note
. states with high vaccination rates are seeing far fewer pediatric cases.
.In Tenn. just 27 percent of those ages 12-17 across the state are vaccinated.
v 52% percent nationwide.
. Across Grundy county and other areas, there are some complaints
about the pandemic response, but most people seem to accept the
virus will be part of their lives and they do not feel the need to battle
it with the tools most public health experts recommend. That means
missed school days, with schools across the state forced to temporarily
close, and thousands of student cases reported.
THEY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT MASKS AND VACCINES ARE THE SOLUTION.

What can one say about that thought process?????

They believe that getting the disease the "natural way" is better than a vaccine. This is not unlike the thought process of "Chicken Pox" parties. Get it, move on.

Many of us grew up in a time when that is what we did. We also did get Measles, mumps, before there were vaccines. Although, I also remember being happy to get a polio vaccine, because no one wanted polio!

As for wearing masks, the truth is that the United States dropped the ball on this from the beginning. Dr. Fauci stated that wearing masks would not make a difference. The fact that they changed the message, is the problem. It completely lacked any credibility with people who heard the first message.
Fauci said masks "not really effective," email reveals
 
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They believe that getting the disease the "natural way" is better than a vaccine. This is not unlike the thought process of "Chicken Pox" parties. Get it, move on.

Many of us grew up in a time when that is what we did. We also did get Measles, mumps, before there were vaccines. Although, I also remember being happy to get a polio vaccine, because no one wanted polio!

As for wearing masks, the truth is that the United States dropped the ball on this from the beginning. Dr. Fauci stated that wearing masks would not make a difference. The fact that they changed the message, is the problem. It completely lacked any credibility with people who heard the first message.
Fauci said masks "not really effective," email reveals

I hear what you are saying about "what they believe"-- but there is such a thing as learning new things, like you know, that vaccines really save lives, including those of children. When minds are closed, bad things happen. As far as masks, yes, the initial message was awful- Dr. Fauci and the surgeon general both said masks are ineffective, but, that was very very early on in the pandemic, before anybody realized that asymptomatic people with the virus were contagious and then they revised their statement about masks. Admittedly though messaging has not been good by the CDC during this pandemic--- confusing at best.
 
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@ilovewings, you asked for the "thought process". I explained it.

My goal was not to start an argument or justify anything. This is how some people think. I don't tell them it is wrong or stupid. In a way, this is not unlike discussing religion, or any other belief system that may not make "sense".

The follow-up issue, on vaccines, is that they don't believe in the vaccine, and, they don't believe that the government should have the authority to force people to inject a foreign substance into a person's body. Whether that is right or wrong, is another belief system.
 
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@ilovewings, you asked for the "thought process". I explained it.

My goal was not to start an argument or justify anything. This is how some people think. I don't tell them it is wrong or stupid. In a way, this is not unlike discussing religion, or any other belief system that may not make "sense".

The follow-up issue, on vaccines, is that they don't believe in the vaccine, and, they don't believe that the government should have the authority to force people to inject a foreign substance into a person's body. Whether that is right or wrong, is another belief system.

Oh, I didn't mean to come across like I was arguing with you and I appreciate your comments. I just get frustrated with people who have the belief system you describe because at the end of the day, in this particular issue (children who contract the virus), it is the children who suffer.
 
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@ilovewings, they don't believe that the government should have the authority to force people to inject a foreign substance into a person's body. .
Yes, IMO the problem is, they associate it with 'government' rather than with 'health care'.

If you are sick or in an accident, you'll have all sorts of foreign substances injected into your body, and no one will ask your permission. But somehow that's okay, because it's not 'government', I guess.
 
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Yes, IMO the problem is, they associate it with 'government' rather than with 'health care'.

If you are sick or in an accident, you'll have all sorts of foreign substances injected into your body, and no one will ask your permission. But somehow that's okay, because it's not 'government', I guess.

When the "government" tells you that you won't have a job, unless you have a jab, that is the message.
 
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Many have Covid fatigue?
I'll go along with hundreds of millions.
Happy to raise my little hand.
I'm exhausted.
I thought that once we got vaccinated...We were good.
Now?
Back to my original stance. I hate this virus unleashed against the human beings in our world.
Yeah. I absolutely HATE covid 19 and ANY OF IT'S FRIENDS.


QUOTE="mickey2942, post: 17160120, member: 165018"]I think many people have "Covid-19 Fatigue". They may have had the vaccine, or had Covid-19, and are ready to move forward with their lives.
Do You Have COVID-19 Caution Fatigue?[/QUOTE]
 
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I think it is interesting finding out why people, especially in health care and "people jobs" refuse Covid vaccination. Which is why I post articles like these.

A healthcare worker who was just fired for refusing the COVID-19 shot says she wouldn't get it even if God said 'you must take this vaccine'
Sun, October 3, 2021, 4:56 PM
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Karen Roses was fired from a New York hospital for refusing the COVID-19 vaccine. Courtesy of Karen Roses.

Karen Roses worked at Peconic Bay Medical Center in Riverhead, New York for over three years as a patient care technician. She said the pandemic has been exhausting, leaving medical personnel burnt out and hospitals understaffed. Then came the vaccination mandate.

"They come out with the mandate, and they just basically threw us under the bus.," Roses, 64, said about healthcare workers. She called the hospital "callous" for terminating employees while disregarding how long they had been employed with the hospital or whether they were seeking medical or religious exemptions to the vaccine.

Roses said unvaccinated healthcare workers are being singled out and blamed for the ongoing pandemic, despite early suggestions that vaccinated people can spread the coronavirus as well.

Roses said vaccination mandates - which have rolled out nationally for healthcare facilities and businesses - are "taking away a freedom of choice" from the people affected by them. Roses added that she is not anti-vaccine and has taken other vaccines in the past.

Personally, I do not understand the steadfast refusal to get this vaccine.
With hundred of millions vaccinated around the world for close to a year,
I don'tget the staunch refusal from medical personnel.
What? They listen to Facebook?
I guess it boils down to distrust of government.
I will not fault them for that..

"I don't feel safe in my own country anymore, and that's really what I think is my strongest feeling," Roses said. "Now I feel like a target."

Roses said she won't get the vaccine because it feels "rushed" and "forced," and it doesn't guarantee that she won't get coronavirus or spread it to others.
OK
 
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When the "government" tells you that you won't have a job, unless you have a jab, that is the message.
But people were anti-vax before that, right? Those measures are because too many people refused to get the public health care, doctor-recommended, pandemic-ending vaccine, not vice-versa.
 
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Oh, I didn't mean to come across like I was arguing with you and I appreciate your comments. I just get frustrated with people who have the belief system you describe because at the end of the day, in this particular issue (children who contract the virus), it is the children who suffer.
To add as well, Covid is, literally, a state of emergency for countries around the world, and that's when people who are in charge get to order other people around. You are told what to do by the fire captain when the alarm goes off in your office building, and you are ordered around by the crew when a ship is sinking, and you better do what you are told. No one is going to wait around patiently and listen to you whinging about free choice while you decide whether you want to get in the life boat, they'll very rudely just shove you in the boat.
 
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The weird world of endless COVID

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A COVID hole

Earlier this week, in Philadelphia, I went to my first concert since before the COVID-19 pandemic began. The Phoebe Bridgers show took place outdoors. Admittance required proof of vaccination. (A recent negative test result was insufficient.) Concertgoers were also required to wear masks.

A hassle? Not really, or not much more than I'm used to by now. I'm vaccinated. Despite that, I bring a mask everywhere I go and usually put it on when venturing indoors. In our part of the country, indoor masking is still the courteous default, even without a public mandate or private request.

But at an outdoor event, where the likelihood of spreading the virus would be low even among the unvaccinated, and for which everyone had provided proof of vaccination? There's an abundance of caution, and then there's overkill — which is likely why most of the crowd had broken the rules and removed their masks before Bridgers took the stage.

Welcome to the weird world of endless COVID.
 
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Are you allowed to ask your doctors and nurses if they’re vaccinated? And do they have to answer?

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The right to ask

Even if you aren’t immunocompromised, legally and ethically you have the right to ask if your health care provider is vaccinated, said Govind Persad, a professor of health law and bioethics at the University of Denver.

If possible, consider calling your doctor’s office before you visit in person to ask if the providers you’re seeing are vaccinated
“You’re asking the provider something that’s relevant to your choice about whether to be treated by them,” he said. “It might be awkward, but awkward is not the same thing as unethical.”

It’s also important to understand that you are not violating someone’s HIPAA rights when you ask if they’re vaccinated, Persad said. (HIPAA is an abbreviation for Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996.)

“In this context, the only way HIPAA is going to be relevant is if, without permission, somebody shares somebody else’s health status,” including sharing their vaccination status.

“I cannot think of any examples where asking somebody a question would violate HIPAA. They always have the ability to say, ‘No, I don’t want to answer that.’”

‘As a patient, you’re not doing anything wrong asking a question’ — Caitlin Donovan, a spokeswoman for the Patient Advocate Foundation
 
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The last time I went to the Doctors, all the staff was masked.
I didn't really think that they wouldn't be, it never entered my mind that some might not have a mask on.

Are you allowed to ask your doctors and nurses if they’re vaccinated? And do they have to answer?
 
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