Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #102

[Arkay]

Double-vaxxed traveller catches Omicron Covid inside Hong Kong quarantine hotel | Daily Mail Online

I mean I mask up and do all those things you are supposed to do- especially if you are not vaccinated. You should know me by my posts a little bit- I am very conscientious about taking precautions.

I do the same, @ilovewings.

Articles like this are the reason why.

I'm triple vaxed with Moderna but just came home from a store where half the customers were unmasked. This is NYC and if 8 cases of Omicron have been identified, then I'm sure there are 8,000 here already. Or 80,000. Or 800,000.

I'm taking no chances.

 

[ilovewings]

Double-vaxxed traveller catches Omicron Covid inside Hong Kong quarantine hotel | Daily Mail Online



I do the same, @ilovewings.

Articles like this are the reason why.

I'm triple vaxed with Moderna but just came home from a store where half the customers were unmasked. This is NYC and if 8 cases of Omicron have been identified, then I'm sure there are 8,000 here already. Or 80,000. Or 800,000.

I'm taking no chances.

My husband had lunch with his son and his son's girlfriend---
They dined indoors- no masks- his son and girlfriend are
vaccinated--I declined and stayed home--I cannot bring myself
to dine indoors-- My husband and I are triple vaxxed

 

[MrX]

Yes, and those of us labelled as Chicken Little think the others are Playing Chicken with an adversary that won't back down.

There is a middle ground, but unfortunately those of us that exist there get labelled by both sides. When I question the efficacy of unproven quackery (horse pills) I am accused of being a brainwashed shill for big pharma and the "media.". When I ask when, for some, the cost of living a masked, distanced isolated life becomes worse than a potential negative outcome, I am labelled a Virus Denier. I know people on both extremes, but thankfully most fall somewhere in between. The intolerance of both can be heartbreaking - I can not abide people believing that 2 + 2 = 5, but also lament being cancelled for suggesting that restrictions, tolerated by many, are unbearable for some.

 

[JayWill]

BBM

Pfizer New Zealand has signed an agreement with the New Zealand government to supply 60,000 treatment courses of its early stage COVID-19 oral antiviral product ritonavir.

If the drug gets regulatory approval from Medsafe (NZ) it would be the first oral antiviral of its kind.

“If approved , oral protease inhibitor antiviral therapies may help to reduce the severity or onset of illness in adults who contract, or have been exposed to, COVID-19.

“An oral treatment option may thus be an important potential tool to help address the ongoing global impact of the COVID-19 pandemic.”

Omicron variant UPDATES LIVE: ‘We will not be pursuing an ‘omicron zero’ here’

I wonder what makes this antiviral different to the antivirals out there. Aids patients take several antivirals and you can get a one dose oral antiviral for herpes simplex. Famvir, stops the cold sore from forming if you use it when you first feel the tingling hotspot and if taken later will be gone much faster.

 

[SouthAussie]

I wonder what makes this antiviral different to the antivirals out there. Aids patients take several antivirals and you can get a one dose oral antiviral for herpes simplex. Famvir, stops the cold sore from forming if you use it when you first feel the tingling hotspot and if taken later will be gone much faster.

I think that what makes it "first oral antiviral of its kind" is that it is the first oral antiviral for covid (if successful).

Interestingly, when I look up the said product name Ritonavir, it is an existing medication that is used for HIV/AIDS treatment.


Ritonavir was one of the first protease inhibitors developed, but is no longer used as an anti-HIV drug due to its side effects. However, it is given at very low doses (too low for anti-HIV effects) to ‘boost’ the level of other protease inhibitors such as darunavir and atazanavir.
Ritonavir

Ritonavir: Uses, Interactions, Mechanism of Action | DrugBank Online

Ritonavir

 

[mickey2942]

There is a middle ground, but unfortunately those of us that exist there get labelled by both sides. When I question the efficacy of unproven quackery (horse pills) I am accused of being a brainwashed shill for big pharma and the "media.". When I ask when, for some, the cost of living a masked, distanced isolated life becomes worse than a potential negative outcome, I am labelled a Virus Denier. I know people on both extremes, but thankfully most fall somewhere in between. The intolerance of both can be heartbreaking - I can not abide people believing that 2 + 2 = 5, but also lament being cancelled for suggesting that restrictions, tolerated by many, are unbearable for some.

It is crazy. Like I said, I don't really see a "middle" ground here.

I have friends, family who are extreme on both sides. I can't figure it out. And everything changes constantly.

 

[MrX]

It is crazy. Like I said, I don't really see a "middle" ground here.

I have friends, family who are extreme on both sides. I can't figure it out. And everything changes constantly.

I suppose it is true that one person's extreme is another person's middle ground. When I was growing up it seemed like there were absolutes of right and wrong. Somewhere along the line everyone seemed to feel entitled to their own "facts" and that's where we went off the rails.

A couple of months ago I was "debating" with some friends that were in from out of town. They have bought into the deluxe conspiracy package. One of their arguments for horse pills was the low Covid death rate in India. I was speechless - these people are willing to contest every established fact about anything, but they are going to base life decisions on India's ability to accurately record and report Covid data??? As I recall, India was overwhelmed trying to cope with the sick and dying, let alone worrying about tallying the results.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Speaking of misinformation, apparently 65% of hospital admissions in the U.K. are vaccinated. This has led to some mathematically challenged people shouting that it’s “proof” the vaccines don’t work.

Here’s a nice graphic to explain the stats:

 

[MajorHoople]

South Carolina Nursing Director Charged with Making Fake COVID-19 Vaccination Cards — People

“Authorities have charged a Columbia, South Carolina, nursing director with making fake COVID-19 vaccination cards — a first-of-its-kind criminal prosecution in the state.”

South Carolina? Maybe Tammy can hire Alec Murdaugh as her attorney.

 

[weepingangel]

Oooo good graphic !

Speaking of misinformation, apparently 65% of hospital admissions in the U.K. are vaccinated. This has led to some mathematically challenged people shouting that it’s “proof” the vaccines don’t work.
Here’s a nice graphic to explain the stats:
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[Deleted member 158085]

I am so excited. Our library is hosting a late afternoon and evening vaccination clinic next month! We opted for any covid vaccine, 1st, 2nd, or booster of any of the 3 vaccines for 12+

 

[CrimeAway]

Wow, this was a shockingly bad response from Psaki, IMO.

Doctors slam Psaki for mocking idea of mailing free at-home COVID tests to all Americans | Daily Mail Online

ETA: I did see that my local Kroger had the Binax Now tests (2-pack) for $14, which is the same price as Walmart, and cheaper than most of the drug stores. They were by the pharmacy, but as usual, YMMV.

 

[jjenny]

Wow, this was a shockingly bad response from Psaki, IMO.

Doctors slam Psaki for mocking idea of mailing free at-home COVID tests to all Americans | Daily Mail Online

ETA: I did see that my local Kroger had the Binax Now tests (2-pack) for $14, which is the same price as Walmart, and cheaper than most of the drug stores. They were by the pharmacy, but as usual, YMMV.

Yea, I am not sure what is so funny about sending a free test to all Americans. Seems other countries are doing it.

 

[Turkeytrot]

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/07/omi...small-study-of-pfizer-vaccine-recipients.html

 

[CrimeAway]

Yea, I am not sure what is so funny about sending a free test to all Americans. Seems other countries are doing it.

Yes, I was very unimpressed with her response. Here's an update from today, and a ProPublica article about testing.

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Here’s Why Rapid COVID Tests Are So Expensive and Hard to Find — ProPublica

 

[weepingangel]

Thats great ! Our library has been doing what are technically equity clinics twice a week - though they promote them as anyone can utilize them.
Helpful to have those available during the later hours as well.

I am so excited. Our library is hosting a late afternoon and evening vaccination clinic next month! We opted for any covid vaccine, 1st, 2nd, or booster of any of the 3 vaccines for 12+

 

[CrimeAway]

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/07/omi...small-study-of-pfizer-vaccine-recipients.html

Not good news, but it's only a small study. I think we will learn more over the coming days and weeks. I just hope that people are cautious and responsible with the holidays approaching, however I'm not confident in that.

ETA: Thanks for sharing!

 

[jjenny]

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/07/omi...small-study-of-pfizer-vaccine-recipients.html

Yikes. Sounds like Omicron will be able to evade vaccines quite well.

 

[WichitaFalls]

So what we're hearing so far, Omicron is more easily infectious than Delta but according to cnbc report of small study Pfizer able to evade vaccines. Wonder how this plays out in the coming weeks?

Omicron likely more transmissible than Delta but not more severe, Dr. Anthony Fauci says
The Omicron variant may be able to easily infect more people than Delta, but Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, does not believe it will cause as many deaths as Delta.

Omicron has been detected in almost half of all states in America, and experts are concerned about its mutations, which indicate it could be highly transmissible and potentially reduce the effectiveness of treatments and vaccines. It's likely still going to be weeks before the true nature of the variant is determined, but Fauci doesn't believe it will be "worst-case scenario."

 

[WichitaFalls]

Wow, this was a shockingly bad response from Psaki, IMO.

Doctors slam Psaki for mocking idea of mailing free at-home COVID tests to all Americans | Daily Mail Online

ETA: I did see that my local Kroger had the Binax Now tests (2-pack) for $14, which is the same price as Walmart, and cheaper than most of the drug stores. They were by the pharmacy, but as usual, YMMV.

She blew it MOO. It has baffled me from the beginning why the U.S. doesn't flood the population with free COVID tests.