Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #103

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  • #841
Hope everyone is having a wonderful Christmas and staying safe.

We (mainly me) decided to stay home for Christmas. Husband and family kept asking multiple times about just going for a couple days.. "maybe we could go over the break but after Christmas" etc etc. Mama Grinch (aka me) kept giving a hard no as the answer.

Felt guilty initially but watching this thing take off, I think it was the best decision for us.

I have been "Mama Buzzkill" for the last going on two years soon. You are not alone. No travel, no trips, no going out to dinner (I have lightened up on this a bit), no kids over, on and on. Back to being the meanie.
 
  • #842
Maryland officials advise health care providers to conserve monoclonal antibody treatments

Maryland officials are telling health care providers to preserve monoclonal antibody treatments after the federal government discovered that a portion of the approved therapies do not protect against the COVID-19 omicron variant.

Maryland has paused distribution of the two ineffective treatments.

Supplies for the remaining treatment, however, are limited nationwide and as a result are being conserved for patients who are older than 65 years old or immunocompromised, according to the state's health department.

“MDH strongly encourages physicians to prioritize the use of sotrovimab for individuals who are 65 years old and older and individuals who are moderately to severely immunocompromised,” the letter adds.

The officials also said that because of the supply shortages, the state will be “adjusting our distribution algorithm to ensure that facilities serving the highest risk patients have mAb to administer, including to residents in congregate care facilities.”
 
  • #843
Hope everyone is having a wonderful Christmas and staying safe.

We (mainly me) decided to stay home for Christmas. Husband and family kept asking multiple times about just going for a couple days.. "maybe we could go over the break but after Christmas" etc etc. Mama Grinch (aka me) kept giving a hard no as the answer.

Felt guilty initially but watching this thing take off, I think it was the best decision for us.
I totally understand. Our daughter and two young grandchildren (6 & 9)who live across the country from us were planning to visit. We haven't seen them for a couple of years. :( Unfortunately those plans have been scrapped (for good reason imo).
We've made plans to fly to see them sometime in the late spring or summer if/when things calm down a bit. Not seeing our grandkids growing up is one of the most difficult parts of this. I know it's the right thing to do but it's heartbreaking at the same time.
 
  • #844
The difference is stark, even in the U.S. You mentioned removing masks to eat, which sounds so strange because it is the rare person, in these parts, that wears a mask anywhere. And contact tracing is non existent. It really is like the article from The Atlantic that someone posted a couple of weeks ago.
We still wear masks in L.A. County CA. It surprised me originally but people are very compliant. I don't recall seeing someone indoors (that wasn't eating) without a mask here since this whole mess started. I did see a man ask security if he could come into a grocery store because he forgot his mask. They told him no and he left (I assume to go get a mask). I feel lucky that most of the public are like minded here.
 
  • #845
Cannot change anyone's mindset, I understand that.

But I hope that since so many reservations have been booked, that there is contract tracing after the inevitable spread of virus among seven restaurants full of people who must remove their masks to eat.

In answer to, I think it was @IceIce9 and @CharlestonGal, I did in fact hear from contact tracers. I’m listed as an emergency contact for my 17- year old granddaughter. When they couldn’t get through to her parents they called me. Apparently a child in her school tested positive and they were vigorously contacting all classmates.

Of course that is much easier in a place like school, where every child is registered and has contact info. In a store like where @CharlestonGal believes she may have contracted the virus, it would be a lot more tumultuous trying to find everyone who shopped there that day and several days prior.

As I’ve stated before, these restrictions such as Europe is implementing are only as good as enforcement and follow-through.

I’ve also stated many times that here in NYC we have some rigorous laws that are blatantly ignored by those who toss caution to the winds. Ergo, we are back to having the highest rates of covid positivity.

IMO it’s a vicious cycle that will not end while people feel their immediate gratification is the first priority.

FWIW I live in Southern Indiana. If contact tracing has stopped, it's only been in the last few weeks.
 
  • #846
Anti-mask parents not constitutionally allowed to change school rules, says federal judge
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A federal judge on Wednesday rejected a lawsuit from two Nevada parents seeking to challenge the state's public school mask mandate, saying in her ruling that parents did not have the constitutional right to dictate school policies.

In their lawsuit filed in August, two Nevada parents claimed that the mask mandate, as well as their exclusion from the decisionmaking process regarding it, violated their constitutional rights as parents. However, U.S. District Court Judge Jennifer Dorsey wrote that these "perceived wrongs" were not constitutional violations.

Dorsey determined in her 22-page decision that the plaintiffs in the case had failed to demonstrate a legal basis for their claims and rejected their lawsuit.

"The Constitution does not require an opportunity to participate in the decision-making process for such broadly applicable policies, and the fundamental right to parent does not include the prerogative to dictate school health and safety policies," wrote Dorsey.

The COVID-19 policies that the parents were seeking to challenge require all nonexempt individuals to wear masks in public settings like public and charter schools, regardless of vaccination status. The Clark County School District, where the children of the two plaintiffs attend school, also issued a mask mandate based on guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as well as Nevada Gov. Steve Sisolak's (D) orders.
 
  • #847
I'm sorry you're going to be alone tomorrow @CrimeAway. I am, too. I cried about it for a few minutes earlier today. I'm going to zoom in to the festivities at my daughter's house. Can you do something like that?
I'm so sorry you are dealing with all this @CharlestonGal
It's so difficult when we can't be with our families on these special days. I hope you are feeling better soon. Stupid Covid!
 
  • #848
Anti-mask parents not constitutionally allowed to change school rules, says federal judge
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A federal judge on Wednesday rejected a lawsuit from two Nevada parents seeking to challenge the state's public school mask mandate, saying in her ruling that parents did not have the constitutional right to dictate school policies.

In their lawsuit filed in August, two Nevada parents claimed that the mask mandate, as well as their exclusion from the decisionmaking process regarding it, violated their constitutional rights as parents. However, U.S. District Court Judge Jennifer Dorsey wrote that these "perceived wrongs" were not constitutional violations.

Dorsey determined in her 22-page decision that the plaintiffs in the case had failed to demonstrate a legal basis for their claims and rejected their lawsuit.

"The Constitution does not require an opportunity to participate in the decision-making process for such broadly applicable policies, and the fundamental right to parent does not include the prerogative to dictate school health and safety policies," wrote Dorsey.

The COVID-19 policies that the parents were seeking to challenge require all nonexempt individuals to wear masks in public settings like public and charter schools, regardless of vaccination status. The Clark County School District, where the children of the two plaintiffs attend school, also issued a mask mandate based on guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as well as Nevada Gov. Steve Sisolak's (D) orders.
This is mind boggling to me. IMO If they don't like the schools rules they can always homeschool their kids.
 
  • #849
We still wear masks in L.A. County CA. It surprised me originally but people are very compliant. I don't recall seeing someone indoors (that wasn't eating) without a mask here since this whole mess started. I did see a man ask security if he could come into a grocery store because he forgot his mask. They told him no and he left (I assume to go get a mask). I feel lucky that most of the public are like minded here.
I live in Maryland and besides Baltimore City nobody wears masks here. If people do wear masks they are certainly in the minority. The governor says he has no plans for a mask mandate or a shut down ever again
 
  • #850
This is mind boggling to me. IMO If they don't like the schools rules they can always homeschool their kids.

The schools give them the online learning program option.

The Clark County School District did offer parents the option of enrolling their children in the district's online learning program and students who are unable to safely wear masks are allowed to request accommodations under the mandate.
 
  • #851
Anti-mask parents not constitutionally allowed to change school rules, says federal judge
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A federal judge on Wednesday rejected a lawsuit from two Nevada parents seeking to challenge the state's public school mask mandate, saying in her ruling that parents did not have the constitutional right to dictate school policies.

In their lawsuit filed in August, two Nevada parents claimed that the mask mandate, as well as their exclusion from the decisionmaking process regarding it, violated their constitutional rights as parents. However, U.S. District Court Judge Jennifer Dorsey wrote that these "perceived wrongs" were not constitutional violations.

Dorsey determined in her 22-page decision that the plaintiffs in the case had failed to demonstrate a legal basis for their claims and rejected their lawsuit.

"The Constitution does not require an opportunity to participate in the decision-making process for such broadly applicable policies, and the fundamental right to parent does not include the prerogative to dictate school health and safety policies," wrote Dorsey.

The COVID-19 policies that the parents were seeking to challenge require all nonexempt individuals to wear masks in public settings like public and charter schools, regardless of vaccination status. The Clark County School District, where the children of the two plaintiffs attend school, also issued a mask mandate based on guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as well as Nevada Gov. Steve Sisolak's (D) orders.

Thank goodness for a judge with a brain and common sense.
 
  • #852
I have been "Mama Buzzkill" for the last going on two years soon. You are not alone. No travel, no trips, no going out to dinner (I have lightened up on this a bit), no kids over, on and on. Back to being the meanie.
What got us through the first year was the vaccine hope. Now boostered breakthroughs. Still have to social distance and wear masks due to variant.
Almost two years. I can honestly say it has been the worse time period in my entire life.
 
  • #853
Covid doesn't care if we're tired of it. It is not tired of us. It is not going to be 2019 again.

Make tiny and wise decisions. If you are going to have 3 families over, try to have 2 families over, or one.

Think about where you have them. Make sure they are in a room with excellent ventilation - even if it is not the room where you would usually entertain visitors - or get outside.

If you are invited to 5 parties, go to 2. The smaller and smarter ones.

Take your masks off when cases are not surging, put them on when cases are surging.

If we all do something - share the burden - our healthcare systems will be able to cope.
Instead of some doing nothing, and some doing everything.

Slow the spread. Don't overwhelm the healthcare system. Let it do its job properly. Then we'll be okay.


This is how a Melbourne (Aus) epidemiologist advises that we approach our new covid normal, once we are vaxxed and boostered.
Source: Ch7 morning TV news, this morning
 
  • #854
What got us through the first year was the vaccine hope. Now boostered breakthroughs. Still have to social distance and wear masks due to variant.
Almost two years. I can honestly say it has been the worse time period in my entire life.

I have lightened up a lot. My husband is 83. If Covid doesn't kill him, something else will. At least, at his age, it will be fairly quick. I have already spoken with hospice about this, last year. He won't be on a ventilator, or gasping for breath.

He is vaxxed x 3, which I guess is pretty meaningless now.
 
  • #855
Re- contact tracers. My husband and I tested positive Sat and Monday and nobody has contacted us thus far.

edited to say - we were out to dinner Thursday night and went to lunch on Friday. Husband took a turn for the worst out of nowhere Friday afternoon. We did contact the bartender who took care of us (he’s a friend) and he never got it thankfully. We also saw a friend that day and hugged and chatted for a good 20 min. She never got it either. Very strange how it seems to be so contagious sometimes and other times not so much. My kids still don’t have it. They are unvaxxed.
How do you know that you kids don't have it if you didn't test them? People can be infected and asymptomatic. I know several people who had no symptoms but tested positive.
 
  • #856
I have lightened up a lot. My husband is 83. If Covid doesn't kill him, something else will. At least, at his age, it will be fairly quick. I have already spoken with hospice about this, last year. He won't be on a ventilator, or gasping for breath.

He is vaxxed x 3, which I guess is pretty meaningless now.
Vaccines and boosters still protect against severe disease. But at the age of 83, someone will still be at risk if infected.
 
  • #857
What got us through the first year was the vaccine hope. Now boostered breakthroughs. Still have to social distance and wear masks due to variant.
Almost two years. I can honestly say it has been the worse time period in my entire life.

I reckon there will be another year of it. December 2022 before it starts to settle.

The 1918 pandemic took 3 years to settle down. And we are not riding this one out any better than that one. imo

Vaccinations help, this time. Last time, far reduced capability for travel helped. They kind of balance each other out, to me.
 
  • #858
I have lightened up a lot. My husband is 83. If Covid doesn't kill him, something else will. At least, at his age, it will be fairly quick. I have already spoken with hospice about this, last year. He won't be on a ventilator, or gasping for breath.

He is vaxxed x 3, which I guess is pretty meaningless now.
@mickey2942 Just want to say, I believe you and your husband are doing the right things. It is meaningful.
 
  • #859
How do you know that you kids don't have it if you didn't test them? People can be infected and asymptomatic. I know several people who had no symptoms but tested positive.
Because they’ve been tested since WE became positive.
 
  • #860
I was just
I reckon there will be another year of it. December 2022 before it starts to settle.

The 1918 pandemic took 3 years to settle down. And we are not riding this one out any better than that one. imo

Vaccinations help, this time. Last time, far reduced capability for travel helped. They kind of balance each other out, to me.

If 80 percent of our country had gotten vaxxed we would
not be in this position now--- I was reading an article in whicb
anti vaxxers are portrayed as defiant and will never get vaccinated. One
of the themes of these people are breakthrough infections--
they say why should they get the vax if they can still get
Covid

How come you dont hear the defiance over the flu vaccine even though
everybody knows you can still get the flu even if vaccinated?

I do want to say though that tht CDC sbould never have coined the term
break through whenpeople who got the vaccine tested positive for Covid.
They dont use that term when someone gets the flu after getting a flu vaccine.

It is obvious these anti vaxxers dont understand the Covid vaccine does
not prevent a person from getting Covid but prevents serious illness and death
in most cases, though not all.
get the
 
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