Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #104

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  • #261
I see unmasked person as someone who could sentence me to death or who could cause lifelong disability (long covid/damaged organs). It is not an unreasonable fear and is not an unscientific assumption, IMO. So I made a "serious and difficult choice" last year to always mask up, not party and got vaxxed as soon as I was eligible. My family, friends and all others. I care!

I don't know how one can arrive at the 'serious and difficult choice' of not wearing a mask. No idea.

But their 'freedumb' (thanks, beatrixpotter), and their 'freeeeeeeedom' (thanks, Lilibet) is prolonging the deadly pandemic and people are dying.

And those umasked will continue not to care and they will
continue to spread Covid and people will die.
 
  • #262
I am aware of individual cases in my workplace where people are medically exempt. Without going into detail, I have to understand the reasons and some of them are truly heart breaking medical reasons. Those people are having to make v difficult choices every day. So I dont think we should judge every nonmasked person in the same way. Many people as we know are dealing with silent private battles. But these are v individual situations and often rare medical conditions.
 
  • #263
I am aware of individual cases in my workplace where people are medically exempt. Without going into detail, I have to understand the reasons and some of them are truly heart breaking medical reasons. Those people are having to make v difficult choices every day. So I dont think we should judge every nonmasked person in the same way. Many people as we know are dealing with silent private battles. But these are v individual situations and often rare medical conditions.

I cannot think of any medical reasons (except perhaps severe PTSD from being gagged, severe developmental disabilities, or dementia) that would make someone unable to wear a mask. JMO.
 
  • #264
Just chiming in to say I am with ya’ll who are so frustrated and sick of the stupid people who are prolonging this pandemic. If everyone had just worn a dang mask and gotten vaccinated we could have starved this virus out by now and be back to normal. Before we had the vaccines (which are flat out an amazing scientific feat and I am SO grateful for them) if everyone had just worn the stupid mask when out and about we COULD have mostly been able to safely do the things we need to do (school, grocery shopping etc.) But no, we have a gigantic group of complete idiots who don’t like to be told what to do and think they know better than real doctors and scientists and FACTS.
This is a pandemic of stupidity, and in the future I think it will be clear that the stupids have thinned themselves out because at this point, they are the ones dying. Whatever. Sorry, but it’s the truth and it didn’t have to be. But the sad thing is there will of course still be casualties of people who did the right things. Older people, immunocompromised, babies. I’m just sick of it, because I want us all to be able to get back to life, and we’re all at the mercy of ignorant, selfish people.
 
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Let me say, first of all I take issue with the term "breakthrough" infection. Think about the connotation of that term: Break through: It sounds like a very negative bad situation. You will notice when someone gets the flu after getting a flu vaccine, they don't call it a breakthrough infection. They don't call it anything because it is expected that some people will get the flu despite getting vaccinated. The term break through with respect to a person testing positive after being vaccinated, doesn't really tell you a whole lot anyway. Many of the people who tested positive after being vaccinated did not get ill. Some did. I just think the CDC should not have created that word to describe what occurred when a person tested positive after being vaccinated. Anti vaxxers really jumped on that term--- Words have consequences.
I'm okay with the term. I think it's important for people to know that even though they are vaccinated, there is still a possibility (small but it is possible) of coming down with Covid. That's the simple truth.
The vaccine will hopefully allow those infections to be milder and keep people out of the hospital. It's important for people to know that the vaccine isn't the end all and be all IMO. People still need to wash their hands, wear facemasks and social distance.
 
  • #267
I cannot think of any medical reasons (except perhaps severe PTSD from being gagged, severe developmental disabilities, or dementia) that would make someone unable to wear a mask. JMO.
Me either. And even if there is that rare 1 in 100 person who suffers such an ailment, what is the excuse of the other 99? jmo
 
  • #268
I cannot think of any medical reasons (except perhaps severe PTSD from being gagged, severe developmental disabilities, or dementia) that would make someone unable to wear a mask. JMO.
I have seen medical records which explain why it is required but will not be discussing them here for obvious reasons. However the lack of understanding is what breaks my heart the most, especially when these people are wearing the recognised hidden disability lanyards.
 
  • #269
I have seen medical records which explain why it is required but will not be discussing them here for obvious reasons. However the lack of understanding is what breaks my heart the most, especially when these people are wearing the recognised hidden disability lanyards.

The lanyards are a good thing. It must be hard for the few medically exempt people to be lumped in with the great majority of no-real-excuse people who are going around maskless.

There is a lady at my local chemist shop who can't wear a (required) mask, but she does wear a faceshield, works behind a plexiglass screen, and is no longer one of the counter staff that can float between the front counter and the prescription counter, or step out from behind the screen to help customers find something.
 
  • #270
I have seen medical records which explain why it is required but will not be discussing them here for obvious reasons. However the lack of understanding is what breaks my heart the most, especially when these people are wearing the recognised hidden disability lanyards.
Needlessly to say my heart breaks for those who can't wear masks or can't get vaccinated. This pandemic must be the most scariest nightmare for them. All the more reasons why I absolutely dislike unmasked people spreading stupid virus from their stupid nose and mouth.
 
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The lanyards are a good thing. It must be hard for the few medically exempt people to be lumped in with the great majority of no-real-excuse people who are going around maskless.

There is a lady at my local chemist shop who can't wear a (required) mask, but she does wear a faceshield, works behind a plexiglass screen, and is no longer one of the counter staff that can float between the front counter and the prescription counter, or step out from behind the screen to help customers find something.
It really is heart breaking. To be 20 years old and live in fear every day, just to come to work. And then have snarky comments made, reminding you that you're "different". It is a minority but shows me an alternative perspective thats for sure.
 
  • #273
I'm okay with the term. I think it's important for people to know that even though they are vaccinated, there is still a possibility (small but it is possible) of coming down with Covid. That's the simple truth.
The vaccine will hopefully allow those infections to be milder and keep people out of the hospital. It's important for people to know that the vaccine isn't the end all and be all IMO. People still need to wash their hands, wear facemasks and social distance.
I agree with you. There has to be total transparency with this thing.
 
  • #274
Exclusive: America's least-vaccinated states led in-store holiday shopping

Arkansas, Kentucky and West Virginia, all of which are less than 55% fully-vaccinated against the COVID-19 virus, were among the states with the highest sales growth between Nov. 1 and Dec. 24 versus last year, according to the Mastercard data provided exclusively to Reuters.

In each of these states, in-store holiday sales rose by more than 10%. Overall, in-store sales rose 8.1%, according to Mastercard.

Consumers went out shopping because they already had low concerns about getting infected and saw little risk in doing so, said David Marcotte, a senior vice president at retail consultancy firm Kantar.
 
  • #275
It really is heart breaking. To be 20 years old and live in fear every day, just to come to work. And then have snarky comments made, reminding you that you're "different". It is a minority but shows me an alternative perspective thats for sure.
These disabled people really should be on some kind of government benefits since they cannot protect themselves. Is something like that available? jmo
 
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These disabled people really should be on some kind of government benefits since they cannot protect themselves. Is something like that available? jmo
They were eligible for furlough under shielding but that was stopped ages ago. Now they're on their own with it. Full kudos to them IMO for not living a life on benefits at the age of 20 odd. I cannot respect their courage and grit more.
 
  • #278
Consistently leading the world in new cases and new deaths each and every day, week after week, month after month. I don't even know what to say anymore. jmo
It's disheartening but to be fair we do have one of the highest populations. ;)
 
  • #279
Britain reported a record 129,471 new cases of COVID-19 in the last 24 hours on Tuesday, excluding Northern Ireland and Scotland. The previous record high of daily infections was 122,186 on December 24.
Omicron drives record daily COVID cases across Europe
Its really burning through us. I know so many people here now who have recently tested positive. Fortunately all have cold like symptoms, hoping that continues.
 
  • #280
Britain reported a record 129,471 new cases of COVID-19 in the last 24 hours on Tuesday, excluding Northern Ireland and Scotland. The previous record high of daily infections was 122,186 on December 24.
Omicron drives record daily COVID cases across Europe

Surging here too. Really high and record numbers (for us).

Our (South Australia) state Premier has started doing daily pressers again. His main theme is "please stop moving around" "if you are not fully vaxxed or due for a booster, please get them now" "no, we are not doing any more free PCR testing so that you can travel".

He also re-introduced distancing and capacity restrictions a day or two ago.

NSW Health prioritises COVID testing for 'clinically urgent' cases as state records 11,201 infections
 
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