Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #104

[CSIDreamer]

We've already crossed 300,000 new cases today with 15 states still yet to report.

United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Looks like our one day high since the beginning of this.

 

[ilovewings]

I thought you are in Florida.

I am but Michigan is my home state and that is where I was when the CDC said okay to unmask to vaccinated folks.

 

[acutename]

I can relate to the mask phobia, somewhat. I didn't realize I had that problem until I had to do the gas chamber with a military issue gas mask. I had a full blown panic attack within moments of putting that thing on. Since there is no such thing as a gas mask exemption I was ineligible for continued service unless I could get over it. It took a series of biofeedback sessions but I eventually was able to get over the issue, wearing that awful thing for 12 hour stretches sometimes in Iraq. But I hated every minute of it.

I wonder what the local response would be if I showed up at Harris Teeter wearing that? Lol!

ETA:

Military Gas Mask K10 - EOD Technology

PAPR- used top cost less than $100... I asked ppl once if we should just issue one to every adult who could wear one... of course not everyone can and kids cannot, but how much has COVID cost society so far? (rhetorical Q)

 

[Willow Knight]

"""This thread often reminds me of the Twilight Zone episode where one family has a bomb shelter in their basement. I know many of you have had conflicts with friends and family over Covid. Do you think that when (if) this ends, those relationships will be restored, or will there be lingering animosity? Will you be able to go back to normal with people who flaunted every protocol from the beginning?""" @MrX

Carried this over from previous thread. Just getting back. My answer is NO. My grandchildren's other grandparents will not get vaccinated and push the it's all a hoax theme. I feel that attitude is delaying the recovery and my gr babies may suffer from it, so no it will never be normal between 'certain' people and I again. I understand people have a choice and I can live with those that don't get vaccinated, however the ones that go out of their way to discourage vaccination, will not social distance, and continue to live as if there is no pandemic are a problem to me. It's not so much that some are not being vaccinated, it's the ignorant comments and attitudes. When my gr-son's other Gma heard I was first getting vaccinated, she told my gr-son thousands of people died from the vaccine. He was a mess. When he saw me he cried and told me how worried he was I was going to die. Will never be normal again.

 

[Yesiamapirate]

The virus is going to have a bangin' Good Years Eve! It's going to meet lots and lots of new people. jmo

Especially in states like mine with zero COVID rules. But what will really interest me is other than cases, will the death rate go up? Vaccines protect well against serious illness it seems and this variant is milder. Maybe. I will put a MOO there because I am not able to link for back up.

 

[CharlestonGal]

410,000 new cases, ten states still left to report.

United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

 

[indicolite22]

Anti-vaxxer mob storm Covid testing site in Milton Keynes: Crowd of protesters chanting 'shame on you' march through facility during rally attended by Piers Corbyn as they rip down signs, throw traffic cones and steal medical supplies from tents

 

[acutename]

I think that the data is skewed in the United States, on vaccination rates, Covid death rates...Covid contact tracing. And part of that is that no state is consistent in the way data is collected. Case in point, in Florida, if someone dies of Covid, but they "live" in New York, the data is not reported as a "Covid" death in Florida. Makes zero sense to me.

Same with vaccination, the rates may not be reported accurately in Arizona, due to high numbers of "snowbirds". If they got their vaccines at their place of residence in summer, the vaccination is recorded at that county, in Montana for example, not AZ.

As for Contact Tracing, that seems to be a simple, straight forward job...call people who were in contact to a positive case. But, it is based on the county that person resides in. So, you only call people in the domicile of your assigned county. If they are out of your "county", the information goes to county health department where that person resides. Who knows when they will get that information?

The mismanagement and misinformation of government agencies is staggering. INMO. And part of the problem in the United States. Data analysis is only as good as the data...

I think that the data is skewed in the United States, on vaccination rates, Covid death rates...Covid contact tracing. And part of that is that no state is consistent in the way data is collected. Case in point, in Florida, if someone dies of Covid, but they "live" in New York, the data is not reported as a "Covid" death in Florida. Makes zero sense to me.

Same with vaccination, the rates may not be reported accurately in Arizona, due to high numbers of "snowbirds". If they got their vaccines at their place of residence in summer, the vaccination is recorded at that county, in Montana for example, not AZ.

As for Contact Tracing, that seems to be a simple, straight forward job...call people who were in contact to a positive case. But, it is based on the county that person resides in. So, you only call people in the domicile of your assigned county. If they are out of your "county", the information goes to county health department where that person resides. Who knows when they will get that information?

The mismanagement and misinformation of government agencies is staggering. INMO. And part of the problem in the United States. Data analysis is only as good as the data...

as much as our data may be flawed, in the US we do have a lot of data- expect that some countries that seem to have less COVID have less testing and less data. (That said, I was impressed by how much SA had in their dashboards when omicron was reported. )

 

[pocketaccent]

We've already crossed 300,000 new cases today with 15 states still yet to report.

United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

I'm pretty sure we will go over 400,000 today.
The light at the end of the tunnel I saw not too long ago flickered then disappeared all togetber

Eta- it already did

 

[acutename]

This is terrible news.

Terrible in that it makes the CDC look completely incompetent… they should’ve clarified the 70%+ number last week with the HUGE caveat that current data at that point had a HUGE potential range of possible percentages for omnicron. But they didn’t. So now they just look foolish at best IMO.

But that’s not the worst part IMO. If this is true, it just means that we have sooooooo much further to go before omnicron fully takes over and peaks, before it eventually starts to decline. If we had genuinely already been at 70%+ last week, we would’ve been that much closer to a peak in omnicron cases. Apparently not so much.

I kept asking in the past weeks why my state data showed almost no omicron(?) ..less than 2%- and the CD was saying 73%

 

[LaborDayRN]

I've found that mandates only work with carrot and stick. I live in a State that did minimal Covid mitigation and the only mandates that were enforced were those affecting bars. The only real power the State had was to threaten liquor licenses, so that's where enforcement was. It was odd seeing my anti-mask, anti-vax pub owners throwing people out for not wearing masks and yelling at folks for violating distancing rules. At Walmart people would put on a mask to get past the door guard and then immediately take it off. Same with Vegas - Nevada can claim to have a state-wide mask mandate but casinos are the only places where one will ever see any enforcement because they have to power to take away something people desperately want.

That's too bad. In my city we all wear masks indoors. No one takes them off when inside or they will be asked to leave. I've said before on this thread that I guess I'm just lucky and my community is very compliant with the L.A. County wide mask mandate. I had a garage sale recently and most of the customers wore masks even though we were outdoors.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Anti-vaxxer mob storm Covid testing site in Milton Keynes: Crowd of protesters chanting 'shame on you' march through facility during rally attended by Piers Corbyn as they rip down signs, throw traffic cones and steal medical supplies from tents

This is 10 miles from me and yet the first I hear of it is here?! How bizarre

 

[CharlestonGal]

Anti-vaxxer mob storm Covid testing site in Milton Keynes: Crowd of protesters chanting 'shame on you' march through facility during rally attended by Piers Corbyn as they rip down signs, throw traffic cones and steal medical supplies from tents

What the ever loving....what??? What is the matter with these people???

 

[CrimeAway]

We've already crossed 300,000 new cases today with 15 states still yet to report.

United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Yikes...

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Anti-vaxxer mob storm Covid testing site in Milton Keynes: Crowd of protesters chanting 'shame on you' march through facility during rally attended by Piers Corbyn as they rip down signs, throw traffic cones and steal medical supplies from tents

Another Piers Corbyn stunt, he will stir up a protest for literally anything. Shame he can’t think how to do it in a more constructive fashion. I wonder what would have happened if his brother Jeremy had won the election and got Boris’s job, would he still have been protesting?

 

[indicolite22]

What the ever loving....what??? What is the matter with these people???

For some reason they are convinced that vaccines kill people and that the authorities are covering it up. Run off the mill conspiracy theorists.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Another Piers Corbyn stunt, he will stir up a protest for literally anything. Shame he can’t think how to do it in a more constructive fashion. I wonder what would have happened if his brother Jeremy had won the election and got Boris’s job, would he still have been protesting?

Just searched for the story on our local news. It said they protested during the interval of Jack and the Beanstalk panto ! And the second half was delayed by 20 minutes ! One person at another location threw a traffic cone, woo hoo. More ham acting than the panto, how funny.

 

[CrimeAway]

I've just checked Worldometers from the link @CharlestonGal posted. US cases today are 410,000+ with 9 states still to report.

 

[musicaljoke]

This is 10 miles from me and yet the first I hear of it is here?! How bizarre

Good. They shouldn't get any publicity. There is something wrong with them, and giving them the limelight won't help.

 

[acutename]

And the home tests can take a few days to show positive!

they send you one free home test here- to be mailed back. one. so if you test negative, and should follow up in a day or two, what then? some of the officials setting up the protocols are tested daily essentially for free. they are kind of out of touch with everyman now, IMO.