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Maybe. I just can't wrap my head around the fact that this keeps on going. If someone got Covid-19 at the beginning in 2020, does that mean that the same person could catch it again? With all of these new variants?

@CharlestonGal so sorry about your niece. Prayers for her, and your family.

I cannot get over it either-- here we are, 2years down the road from the
beginnng of the pandemic-- with a variant that seems able to infect all of us
no matter that we are masked and vaccinated x 3---testing s a joke and availability
of treatments are scandalously not available To enough areas in our country.
Then we have the covidiots who party down, not vaccinated or masked
and they are responsible for this horror we are living through. I see
no end to it
 
  • #523
I had two flights yesterday and one of the airports had signs posted offering free COVID testing.
 
  • #524
Both my son and daughter-in-law tested positive to rapid tests today. They've sent the PCR tests and should have results in a couple of days. Right now they have all the symptoms of omicron and are in bed very sick.

I know the rapid tests are only 50/50 at the most, but I think in their case, they do have it. I feel terrible about them getting this awful disease.

CDC has been pretty firm. IF your test is Positive...you ARE positive.
If you test Negative. Try again.
 
  • #525
Meanwhile, my charming city does this:

Folly Beach businesses ‘excited’ for flip flop drop’s in person return

FOLLY BEACH (WCSC) – Business owners on Folly Beach say they are excited to welcome back a New Year’s tradition for the first time since the COVID-19 pandemic began.

The city’s flip flop drop will be held on New Year’s Eve along Center Street.

“We’re very excited to have that happen again,” Rita’s Seaside Grill Manager Tayler McBarron said.

Charlotte Goodwin, the brainchild of the event and the mayor’s wife, said the event has helped make Dec. 31 the busiest night the local businesses will have throughout the year.

We are still having our Shrimp Drop too. I was hoping to go this year. Definitely cancelled that.

But we do it here at 12AM.... Greenwich Mean Time...... i.e. at 7pm... so all the KIDS can come.

Dread.
 
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  • #526
Too bad she didn’t do the test before she hot on the plane.

She probably did do the test before she got on the plane. Is it not mandatory for all international flights?

" ... passengers must have a certificate of negative COVID-19 test taken within 72 hours of departure when traveling to Iceland. Results from PCR and rapid antigen tests are accepted. Self-tests are not accepted. For passengers flying from England, NHS tests are not accepted."

Visiting Iceland | Icelandair
 
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  • #527
I am grateful we have members of the National Guard to call upon to assist. My spouse, children and I are vaxxed. Two months ago we made the decision to recognize we did what was recommended and move forward with life. We were feeling like life is too short to not take time to truly live it, and that this could go on for years. So we made vacation plans for a few weeks from now when we had the conversation. Now I am concerned what January will look like as things seem to be changing so quickly.

My biggest concern is I have some family members I love dearly who are not vaccinated. I respect their decisions, and at the same time worry about them daily. I suspect I am not the only one in this position when it comes to friends and family. I think this is the hardest part of it all.

I guess this was my moment to get my feelings off my chest as I share what is occurring in our state.

COLUMBUS, Ohio - Gov. Mike DeWine said he called up an additional 1,250 members of the Ohio National Guard on Wednesday morning, in addition to the 1,050 members he called up about two weeks ago.

DeWine calls up an additional 1,250 members of Ohio National Guard to help hospitals with the coronavirus
 
  • #528
Omicron is not the last of this, imo. It did not evolve from Delta and shares no common ancestors with Delta. It split off the main family tree some time last year and evolved separately on its own. It's likely there are other variants on their own evolutionary paths right now and it's impossible to know how those variants are going to mature. This is the reason Delta confers no immunity to Omicron. They are not relatives. It's kind of interesting if you want to dive into the genetics of the thing.

"It's been very common to use an evolutionary tree — or a family tree — of these SARS-CoV-2 viruses to catch introductions in places like Australia and Taiwan that have not had a lot of local spread," says Bedford. "You can figure out where the importations are coming from by looking at the viral genome and checking, 'Is it close in its sequence characteristics to [strains] that are circulating elsewhere that have been sequenced and shared with the database?' "

Scientists can then see, as they continue to take samples in the new region over time, how each particular strain starts to pick up additional — often benign — mutations step by step until it morphs into a significantly different strain.

But Bedford says that when you look at the family tree for this omicron variant, there's something surprising: "With omicron, your closest sequences are back from mid-2020 — so over a year ago. That is very rare to see."

In other words, while scientists can tell that this variant evolved from a strain that was circulating in mid-2020, in the intervening months there has been no trace of all the intermediate versions that scientists would have expected to find as it morphed into its current form.

"It doesn't tie into anything that was circulating more recently," says Bedford." Yet its mutations put it a long way from that 2020 strain."

The mystery of where omicron came from — and why it matters

I've emailed this article to myself..for ongoing reference.... thanks
 
  • #529
I am grateful we have members of the National Guard to call upon to assist. My spouse, children and I are vaxxed. Two months ago we made the decision to recognize we did what was recommended and move forward with life. We were feeling like life is too short to not take time to truly live it, and that this could go on for years. So we made vacation plans for a few weeks from now when we had the conversation. Now I am concerned what January will look like as things seem to be changing so quickly.

My biggest concern is I have some family members I love dearly who are not vaccinated. I respect their decisions, and at the same time worry about them daily. I suspect I am not the only one in this position when it comes to friends and family. I think this is the hardest part of it all.

I guess this was my moment to get my feelings off my chest as I share what is occurring in our state.

COLUMBUS, Ohio - Gov. Mike DeWine said he called up an additional 1,250 members of the Ohio National Guard on Wednesday morning, in addition to the 1,050 members he called up about two weeks ago.

DeWine calls up an additional 1,250 members of Ohio National Guard to help hospitals with the coronavirus

Since 2019 my greatest fear as well. It keeps me awake at night. Thank you for sharing.
 
  • #530
CDC has been pretty firm. IF your test is Positive...you ARE positive.
If you test Negative. Try again.
Yep, the concern with rapid tests is being false negative. If someone tested positive on a rapid test then it's assumed to be positive. While negative still can be false negative.
 
  • #531
I had two flights yesterday and one of the airports had signs posted offering free COVID testing.
I might have to go to the airport to get a test. Just kidding. But it's very hard to find a test right now.
 
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  • #533
Maybe. I just can't wrap my head around the fact that this keeps on going. If someone got Covid-19 at the beginning in 2020, does that mean that the same person could catch it again? With all of these new variants?

@CharlestonGal so sorry about your niece. Prayers for her, and your family.
Absolutely. Omicron can evade natural immunity from prior infection and immunity from vaccines.
 
  • #534
What you need to know about at-home rapid tests and their results (nbcnews.com)

The omicron variant has made at-home Covid tests hot-ticket items. While access and cost are struggles, the new variant could also affect the tests' sensitivity.

At-home rapid tests have proven to be a powerful weapon in the country's battle against the coronavirus and its latest variants, but the surge of the omicron variant has left U.S. consumers to contend with concerns about access, efficacy and rising costs among the numerous options on the market.

Health experts say rapid tests remain a useful tool as the country braces for the latest surge in cases, as long as they can be obtained and are considered in the right context. The tests sacrifice some accuracy for speedy results, but they can be an aid for making decisions and knowing when to get additional treatment.

The most accurate tests available are polymerase chain reaction tests, or PCR tests, which detect tiny snippets of the virus’s genetic material. Because the tests require specialized lab equipment, people can wait for days to get their results — particularly when there are surges, demand grows and logjams are created.

Rapid tests, on the other hand, detect molecules that are found on the virus’s surface, called antigens. They’re not as accurate, but they can be run at home and provide results in as little as 15 minutes...

 
  • #535
I had two flights yesterday and one of the airports had signs posted offering free COVID testing.

Are you at all nervous about flying right now? I'm not sure I could board a plane right now.
 
  • #536
She probably did do the test before she got on the plane. Is it not mandatory for all international flights?

" ... passengers must have a certificate of negative COVID-19 test taken within 72 hours of departure when traveling to Iceland. Results from PCR and rapid antigen tests are accepted. Self-tests are not accepted. For passengers flying from England, NHS tests are not accepted."

Visiting Iceland | Icelandair
BBM. Why does Iceland not accept tests from the NHS????
 
  • #537
Now THAT’S being a responsible human being!!

My first thought was: Were there enough bathrooms for everyone else?? :D I assume so...
 
  • #538
I thought you are in Florida.

ilovewings lives in Michigan but spends the winter in Florida. We call those who leave our cold, snowy state for sunny, warmer climes "snowbirds". Many of my neighbors spend a month or more in Florida or Arizona, but DH and I are usually happy to spend a couple of weeks on a cruise ship for a winter get-away. When we thought the pandemic was ending a few months ago, we started looking for cruises next month or early February. So glad we didn't make plans to sail this winter, but we have booked a 10-night cruise for late January, 2023.
 
  • #539
I am grateful we have members of the National Guard to call upon to assist. My spouse, children and I are vaxxed. Two months ago we made the decision to recognize we did what was recommended and move forward with life. We were feeling like life is too short to not take time to truly live it, and that this could go on for years. So we made vacation plans for a few weeks from now when we had the conversation. Now I am concerned what January will look like as things seem to be changing so quickly.

My biggest concern is I have some family members I love dearly who are not vaccinated. I respect their decisions, and at the same time worry about them daily. I suspect I am not the only one in this position when it comes to friends and family. I think this is the hardest part of it all.

I guess this was my moment to get my feelings off my chest as I share what is occurring in our state.

COLUMBUS, Ohio - Gov. Mike DeWine said he called up an additional 1,250 members of the Ohio National Guard on Wednesday morning, in addition to the 1,050 members he called up about two weeks ago.

DeWine calls up an additional 1,250 members of Ohio National Guard to help hospitals with the coronavirus
I am sorry you have to worry about unvaccinated family. I also have a few unvaccinated friends and family. I am very concerned for them.
Like you, we are triple vaxxed and made the decision to also move forward and return to doing the things we enjoy.
We also have a trip planned for the end of January. I don’t know what things will be like by then but we are traveling to a state without restrictions so as long as we stay healthy we will go as planned.
We got vaxxed, we follow the rules and take COVID seriously. But I am not going to feel guilty for moving forward with our lives as well.
I had to get that off my chest, too.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and also your update on Ohio. The very relatives that are unvaxxed live in Ohio. May you and yours stay healthy!
 
  • #540
We had plans with a group of friends to eat dinner at a restaurant on New Year's Eve, but I told them that DH and I won't be going. I don't feel safe eating and drinking in an indoor space with people I don't know. They could be asymptomatic but still spreading virus.

We are all in our 70s and triple-vaxxed, but right now I don't know if that's enough. Even if we only had miserable cold-like symptoms, I don't want to catch Covid!!
 
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