Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #105

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I...when so many see it in existential terms, that may not be possible.
It's not about permanent existence, it's temporary. And people know instinctively what to do when other people have contagious diseases. When they don't know, natural selection takes care of them. There's a whole lot of Darwin awards this year.

JMO
 
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China has put a second city into total lockdown after just three asymptomatic Covid cases were discovered.

Yuzhou - which has a population of 1.1 million - saw its transport system shut down and all but essential food stores closed overnight.

It follows a similar lockdown in Xi'an, where 13 million have been confined to their homes since 23 December.

The strict measures come ahead of the Lunar New Year and the Winter Olympics due to be held in Beijing.

With exactly a month to go until the Games start, foreign ministry spokesman Wang Wenbin assured reporters China had "formulated an efficient and highly effective defence system".

As part of this system, thousands of staff and volunteers started entering a bubble on Tuesday, which will see them have no physical contact with the outside world in order to limit the spread.
 
  • #104
It's not about permanent existence, it's temporary. And people know instinctively what to do when other people have contagious diseases. When they don't know, natural selection takes care of them. There's a whole lot of Darwin awards this year.

JMO

Entering our third year, with vaccines and it's worse that ever. For some it must feel permanent.
 
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According to international news sources, the people in Xian are not able to get food nor medications. Leaving their apartments is forbidden except for mandatory COVID testing.

The government is now saying they will provide food etc to some apartment buildings.

IMO, this is to save the Winter Olympics at ant cost.

One man who ventured out and bought steamed buns, was severely beaten by security people.
 
  • #106
Entering our third year, with vaccines and it's worse that ever. For some it must feel permanent.
What worries me the most, is that for our elderly loved ones this could be how they spend their last years. I cant bear that thought.
 
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Entering our third year, with vaccines and it's worse that ever. For some it must feel permanent.

Covid, one variant or another, is likely to be around for a long time. It's something that we must learn to live with. JMO
 
  • #108
So my husband was sent to be tested by his employer yesterday because his co worker tested positive. My husband tested positive and just didn't feel like it was right. I was advised to be tested since he was positive. We both went this morning and he was NEGATIVE!? One day after the positive result. Things that make me go 'hmmmmmm.

This was his 5th test by employer, last one was Thursday (Negative), Monday he's positive, today he's negative.

What kind of tests were they?
 
  • #109
Entering our third year, with vaccines and it's worse that ever. For some it must feel permanent.
I'm sure most realize by now it's permanent. Like measles. HIV. Flu. And dozens of other viruses that plague humanity. Nothing is going to change that.

Some will choose to adapt and overcome. Others will kick and scream and long for the good ole days until the end of time. Change is hard for humans and that's a lot of what we're seeing now. Humans attempting en masse to deal with change, some more successfully than others. jmo
 
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What kind of tests were they?
I don't know exactly. The paperwork they gave me today says COVID 19/SARS-CoV-2
Rapid Nasal Antigen Test. I am not sure what the previous tests he took were.
 
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Heart attack patients told to make own way to hospital as Covid surge hits northern England

NHS pressures in the north-east have become so intense that ambulance workers in the area have begun asking patients with suspected heart attacks and strokes to get a lift to hospital with family or friends instead of waiting for an ambulance, amid high staff absences and an “unprecedented” surge in demand, it emerged on Tuesday.

An internal note at North East ambulance service NHS foundation trust said that where there was likely to be a risk from the delay in an ambulance reaching a patient, call handlers should “consider asking the patient to be transported by friends or family”, the Health Service Journal reported.
 
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okay, this is downright scary...my friend just called me and told me her grandaughter's boyfriend has Covid. Now, this grandaughter is in her 20's and lives with said bf. In a tiny apartment w/one bathroom with thier less than 1 year old child...oh did I mention the bf is vaxxed but the grandaughter refused to get vaxxed due to worrying about her future "fertility" (ooffta) The plan is to keep bf in a seperate room, okayyyy....but what about eating? well, he will use the kitchen then she will after him or vice versa...what about the bathroom? well, he will clean it after using it (nevermind that they don't realize its airborne)...I wonder how this will all work out.
BTW, this is the "friend" who said I was over reacting the other day...

p.s. he is a manager at a large grocery chain. She is a stay at home mom.
Okay, cold weather or not that's when I would bundle the baby, myself and my boyfriend up and open the windows as much as I possibly could. They should also both be wearing the best masks they can find. I wish them the best of luck.
 
  • #114
I don't know exactly. The paperwork they gave me today says COVID 19/SARS-CoV-2
Rapid Nasal Antigen Test. I am not sure what the previous tests he took were.

I was wondering if the first test could have been a PCR that picked up some viral RNA that was in his nose, which was then cleared by his immune system. If the subsequent test was a rapid antigen test, I believe that those are more likely to give false negatives, than PCR.

Of course, with PCR, it depends on the cycle threshold, or number of times the sample is amplified. Low CT values, and a positive PCR is almost certainly positive. At CTs over 35-40, false positives can occur, if I have understood correctly.

ETA: does he have any symptoms?
I hope you both continue to test negative, and stay healthy.
 
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I was wondering if the first test could have been a PCR that picked up some viral RNA that was in his nose, which was then cleared by his immune system. If the subsequent test was a rapid antigen test, I believe that those are more likely to give false negatives, than PCR.

Of course, with PCR, it depends on the cycle threshold, or number of times the sample is amplified. Low CT values, and a positive PCR is almost certainly positive. At CTs over 35-40, false positives can occur, if I have understood correctly.

ETA: does he have any symptoms?
I hope you both continue to test negative, and stay healthy.
Thank you! No, neither of us have symptoms.
 
  • #116
Thanks. My labs have already been posted, and everything is just fine. My PCP tends to panic when test results aren't to her liking, so it isn't really urgent for me to see the nephrologist.

Good to hear everything is ok!
 
  • #117
There are still people insisting that children don’t get sick with COVID :(


Breaking News: 2:30 PM

Indiana National Guard to help at Riley Hospital, beleaguered with COVID patients
Riley Hospital for Children has admitted about four times as many children for COVID-19 treatment in recent weeks as in any previous wave during the pandemic. “There are more of them, and they are sicker,” said Dr. Elaine Cox, the hospital’s chief medical officer.

Indiana National Guard to help at Riley Hospital, beleaguered with COVID patients - Indianapolis Business Journal
 
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According to international news sources, the people in Xian are not able to get food nor medications. Leaving their apartments is forbidden except for mandatory COVID testing.

The government is now saying they will provide food etc to some apartment buildings.

IMO, this is to save the Winter Olympics at ant cost.

One man who ventured out and bought steamed buns, was severely beaten by security people.
This is barbaric! I feel so bad for the Chinese people being treated this way. And to think how upset some people here get just to be asked to isolate when infected or to wear a mask............
 
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This is barbaric! I feel so bad for the Chinese people being treated this way. And to think how upset some people here get just to be asked to isolate when infected or to wear a mask............
I know, the roar is deafening on wearing a blasted mask in public.
Those poor people.
 
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