Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #112

  • #921

Take a look and see which age group is surpassing all other age groups in emergency room visits for/with Covid since about June 25 of this year.....and oh look, who was the peak group around this time last year too...

Children ages 0-11.

But hey....they don't need Covid boosters. *sigh*
 
  • #922
This was easily the "best" experience I've had with the shot. I think opting for the double jab in the same arm, which helped me get some sleep this year, helped speed things up. Bring it on, COVID!*

*knocks on wood*
 
  • #923

Questions are answered by experts at OHA (Oregon Health Authority), other state agencies or community partners.

Q: When will the latest COVID vaccine be released and how can we schedule vaccination for seniors, whether free or paid ? If we have to pay, will some Medicare Advantage plans cover? Can we still get them at our local pharmacy if there are no vaccine clinics anymore? – Gloria, Portland

A: All good questions, Gloria. Unfortunately, we can provide only partial answers. The timing and type of COVID-19 vaccines that will be available this fall, as well as who will be recommended to receive it, is in the hands of the CDC. We are all waiting to hear what they decide. Their Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) will have to convene and discuss the matter, and their upcoming schedule shows a meeting set for “August/September (dates TBD).” We are watching that page closely for updates.

If a meeting gets scheduled, you should be able to see the meeting agenda (including which items they will vote on), and even watch it live, using links on this webpage. If the COVID vaccine is on the agenda, we may get some answers.

As to whether your Medicare Advantage plan will cover it, it is actually Medicare Part B that is required to cover COVID vaccination, at no cost to you. You can learn more about vaccine coverage regulations here.

Regarding supply at your local pharmacy, we recommend calling them to ask if they have it in stock, or plan to have it. Some pharmacies may require an appointment for COVID-19 vaccination, so you’ll want to ask about that, too.


 
  • #924
  • #925

Questions are answered by experts at OHA (Oregon Health Authority), other state agencies or community partners.

Q: When will the latest COVID vaccine be released and how can we schedule vaccination for seniors, whether free or paid ? If we have to pay, will some Medicare Advantage plans cover? Can we still get them at our local pharmacy if there are no vaccine clinics anymore? – Gloria, Portland

A: All good questions, Gloria. Unfortunately, we can provide only partial answers. The timing and type of COVID-19 vaccines that will be available this fall, as well as who will be recommended to receive it, is in the hands of the CDC. We are all waiting to hear what they decide. Their Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) will have to convene and discuss the matter, and their upcoming schedule shows a meeting set for “August/September (dates TBD).” We are watching that page closely for updates.

If a meeting gets scheduled, you should be able to see the meeting agenda (including which items they will vote on), and even watch it live, using links on this webpage. If the COVID vaccine is on the agenda, we may get some answers.

As to whether your Medicare Advantage plan will cover it, it is actually Medicare Part B that is required to cover COVID vaccination, at no cost to you. You can learn more about vaccine coverage regulations here.

Regarding supply at your local pharmacy, we recommend calling them to ask if they have it in stock, or plan to have it. Some pharmacies may require an appointment for COVID-19 vaccination, so you’ll want to ask about that, too.


My fear is that the ACIP simply doesn't meet or make any decisions on a Covid-19 vaccination for 2025-2026. If they are trying to stop vaccine use, simply stalling or not discussing a seasonal vaccine may be way to stop vaccine use without directly stating intent. It's possible that a decision will be made too late for distribution if any decision is made at all.

A couple of weeks ago, I had a booster for the Covid-19 vaccination that I had last fall. It was last season's vaccine. My thought was that this was better than nothing, given the possibility of extreme delays or no approvals for 2025-2026.

If there's no approved 2025-2026 vaccine, I'm wondering whether it will be legal to obtain an updated version. Insurance will probably be out of the question, but even purchasing a dose in cash might be impossible.
 
  • #926
My fear is that the ACIP simply doesn't meet or make any decisions on a Covid-19 vaccination for 2025-2026. If they are trying to stop vaccine use, simply stalling or not discussing a seasonal vaccine may be way to stop vaccine use without directly stating intent. It's possible that a decision will be made too late for distribution if any decision is made at all.

A couple of weeks ago, I had a booster for the Covid-19 vaccination that I had last fall. It was last season's vaccine. My thought was that this was better than nothing, given the possibility of extreme delays or no approvals for 2025-2026.

If there's no approved 2025-2026 vaccine, I'm wondering whether it will be legal to obtain an updated version. Insurance will probably be out of the question, but even purchasing a dose in cash might be impossible.

It's shocking to consider that may happen, but it might. It's terrifying what our country has turned into.
 
  • #927
My fear is that the ACIP simply doesn't meet or make any decisions on a Covid-19 vaccination for 2025-2026. If they are trying to stop vaccine use, simply stalling or not discussing a seasonal vaccine may be way to stop vaccine use without directly stating intent. It's possible that a decision will be made too late for distribution if any decision is made at all.

A couple of weeks ago, I had a booster for the Covid-19 vaccination that I had last fall. It was last season's vaccine. My thought was that this was better than nothing, given the possibility of extreme delays or no approvals for 2025-2026.

If there's no approved 2025-2026 vaccine, I'm wondering whether it will be legal to obtain an updated version. Insurance will probably be out of the question, but even purchasing a dose in cash might be impossible.
I had the same thought.

Welcome to the Dark Ages. Stock up on leeches.

jmopinion
 
  • #928
Why scientists are rethinking the immune effects of SARS-CoV-2
(BMJ)


Mycoplasma pneumoniae is a bacterial infection not known to cause widespread hospital admissions. “I can count on my two hands the number of times I’d ever seen mycoplasma pneumoniae before 2023,” says Samira Jeimy, clinical immunologist at the University of Western Ontario. “All of a sudden I feel like everybody has it.”1

Over the past three years similar reports have circulated of rising bacterial infections, flare-ups of old viruses becoming more common, and children landing in hospital with diseases not usually seen in young, healthy people. One explanation offered by public health leaders has been “immunity debt”2—the idea that precautions taken in the covid pandemic suppressed routine exposures to circulating pathogens, leaving people more vulnerable to them when restrictions were lifted.

[...]

Immunity debt—or disruption?
Malgorzata Gasperowicz, a Calgary based developmental biologist, says that if immunity debt fully explained rising infection counts we’d expect to see a uniform rebound across all pathogens. But we don’t, she says.

For instance, a 2024 study of more than 4000 viral cases from Ontario, Canada,4 found higher rates of bacterial infections in people recovering from covid-19 than in those recovering from influenza or RSV—although study groups weren’t perfectly matched by age or clinical setting, limiting direct comparisons.

Jeimy says that many infants and toddlers admitted to hospital with rare infections since 20225 weren’t yet born when pandemic restrictions were in place, and they therefore couldn’t be experiencing immunity debt. They were, however, likely exposed to SARS-CoV-2.

Wolfgang Leitner, chief of the Innate Immunity Section at the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), speculates that covid-19 may somehow impair the immune system’s “memory” of past infections, potentially making even healthy people more vulnerable to future pathogens. He wonders whether the virus leaves lasting scars on the immune system’s T cell defences. “But that’s just (my) hypothesis,” he emphasises in an email.

Immunity reset?
SARS-CoV-2 is linked to “an unusually high level of ‘indiscriminate’ killing of T cells,”6 says Leitner, adding that this observation is “reminiscent of” measles, which can cause immune amnesia by depleting memory B cells (a different type of immune cell), leaving people vulnerable to pathogens they were previously immune to.7

This concept of immune “reset” after infections isn’t new. A hallmark of this phenomenon is the reactivation of dormant viruses, which re-emerge while the immune system is in a weakened state. Reactivation of viruses, including Epstein-Barr virus (EBV) and varicella zoster virus (VZV), has been commonly observed after covid-19.

[...]

 
  • #929
Ugh.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) vaccine advisory group has long had a work group in place to review the latest COVID-19 vaccine science, including weighing the risks and benefits, but a newly constituted group will launch a sweeping new review of the vaccines led by a member who has opposed COVID vaccines.

The Brownstone Institute on August 22 reported that Retsef Levi, PhD, one of seven members appointed to the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) by US Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., has been appointed to lead the COVID vaccine review. On August 20, the CDC posted updated terms of reference for the COVID vaccine work group, which is lengthy. Some of the topics include impacts from repeated boosting and mapping policies in other countries.

Levi does not have a biomedical degree or clinical medicine experience. He has a doctorate in operations research and is a professor of operations management at MIT Sloan School of Management. On social media, Levi has called mRNA vaccines dangerous and said they should be removed from the market.


 
  • #930
The CDC/HHS news is getting worse and worse... As an asthmatic with other chronic health conditions, I know that I must make time for a new passport application. I hope there's a place to travel for Covid-19 vaccines. We Americans may be unwelcome in a lot of places, too.
 
  • #931
The CDC/HHS news is getting worse and worse... As an asthmatic with other chronic health conditions, I know that I must make time for a new passport application. I hope there's a place to travel for Covid-19 vaccines. We Americans may be unwelcome in a lot of places, too.

I've been hoping Canada might welcome Americans to come get vaccinations that are unavailable in the US.
 
  • #932
Ugh.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) vaccine advisory group has long had a work group in place to review the latest COVID-19 vaccine science, including weighing the risks and benefits, but a newly constituted group will launch a sweeping new review of the vaccines led by a member who has opposed COVID vaccines.

The Brownstone Institute on August 22 reported that Retsef Levi, PhD, one of seven members appointed to the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) by US Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., has been appointed to lead the COVID vaccine review. On August 20, the CDC posted updated terms of reference for the COVID vaccine work group, which is lengthy. Some of the topics include impacts from repeated boosting and mapping policies in other countries.

Levi does not have a biomedical degree or clinical medicine experience. He has a doctorate in operations research and is a professor of operations management at MIT Sloan School of Management. On social media, Levi has called mRNA vaccines dangerous and said they should be removed from the market.


So, I can’t tell from the article if this affects the release of the newest Covid 19 vaccine for 2025-26.

This link indicates that there are no safety concerns. But it’s the University of Minnesota, so I guess they can be ignored by Levi & Co at ACIP?

 
  • #933
So, I can’t tell from the article if this affects the release of the newest Covid 19 vaccine for 2025-26.

This link indicates that there are no safety concerns. But it’s the University of Minnesota, so I guess they can be ignored by Levi & Co at ACIP?


How about release the vaccine but keep it like it has been lately - get it if you want, and don't get it if you don't want it. The "do your own research" crowd can go ahead and risk getting the virus without infringing on those who want the vax.

jmopinion
 
  • #934
How about release the vaccine but keep it like it has been lately - get it if you want, and don't get it if you don't want it. The "do your own research" crowd can go ahead and risk getting the virus without infringing on those who want the vax.

jmopinion
Yep. You could say that exact thing about a LOT of things. "If you don't want to, then don't, but don't take away my right to it."
 
  • #935
Yep. You could say that exact thing about a LOT of things. "If you don't want to, then don't, but don't take away my right to it."
Yes indeed.
 
  • #936
How about release the vaccine but keep it like it has been lately - get it if you want, and don't get it if you don't want it. The "do your own research" crowd can go ahead and risk getting the virus without infringing on those who want the vax.

jmopinion
That makes entirely too much sense for RFK Jr and friends. 😠
 
  • #937

House Bill 25 could make Ivermectin accessible at Texas pharmacies without a prescription.

 
  • #938
A federal-state partnership that monitors for foodborne illnesses quietly scaled back its operations nearly two months ago.

As of July 1, the Foodborne Diseases Active Surveillance Network (FoodNet) program has reduced surveillance to just two pathogens: salmonella and Shiga toxin-producing E. coli (STEC), a spokesperson for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention told NBC News.

Before July, the program had been tracking infections caused by six additional pathogens: campylobacter, cyclospora, listeria, shigella, vibrio and Yersinia. Some of them can lead to severe or life-threatening illnesses, particularly for newborns and people who are pregnant or have weakened immune systems...

Food safety experts worry that the move, which hasn’t previously been made public, could make it harder for public health officials to notice whether certain foodborne illnesses are rising and then slow response time to outbreaks...

As Warwick1991 said above, "The CDC/HHS news is getting worse and worse."
 
  • #939
Yep. You could say that exact thing about a LOT of things. "If you don't want to, then don't, but don't take away my right to it."
I agree.
 
  • #940
The FDA approved Pfizer's newest Covid-19 vaccines, but is limiting who can get it


The question now is how physicians, pharmacies, and state public health agencies will respond. I lived in a state that rejected the CDC's recommendations on flu shot prioritization in 2004, and vaccinated politicians and well-connected people instead of those who should have received the shot. States have some independence, then, but of course it depends on the state.
 
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