I'm sorry for your news. He's young so ...even if he tests positive, he has a good outlook. Fingers so crossed for you, and your son. xo
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Meanwhile, I just read "What is Going on Around Town This Week". It is insanity! Music gatherings, plays, concerts..WTH?!
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You know it's bad when Disneyland, Disney World and Universal close.
Over Spring Break ... ouch.
Disney probably lost a ton of money closing the 3? resorts in Asia over Chinese New Year.
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@Yesiamapirate I am just getting caught up now but wanted to say that I'm thinking of and praying for you and your son. Hopefully your son will be fine.
OH only has five known cases, but they are telling people that at least 1 % of the population is likely already infected. So it's actually at least 100,000 cases. Horrifying.
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Looks Like NYC is starting to look at the numbers coming in from Italy.....still debating whether the information from China on aerosolised COVID19 is 'true'.....
https://nypost.com/2020/03/12/nyc-g...as-ready-for-coronavirus-as-de-blasio-claims/
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Mayor Bill de Blasio and his public-health team have been holding regular briefings on the coronavirus crisis in New York City, detailing the extent of its transmission, updating the public on the progression of the disease in infected persons and offering guidelines for avoiding infection.
All good work, but there are signs that the city is less prepared for a mass outbreak than officials suggest. De Blasio and Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbot have stressed that though the coronavirus is certainly contagious, the mechanics of transmission are relatively limited.
“The virus can only transmit when bodily fluid, such as through a sneeze, cough or spit, is transferred from a person who has the virus, directly into another person,” de Blasio stated in a news release. “Disease detectives have determined that the virus does not survive for more than two or three minutes in open air.”
The claim that coronavirus dies quickly upon exposure to the atmosphere is striking; it also seems to contradict information elsewhere. The World Health Organization says that the novel coronavirus appears to behave similarly to related viruses and “may persist on surfaces for a few hours or up to several days.” A recent article in the Journal of Hospital Infection suggests that, depending on the surface material, it can remain infectious for up to nine days.
If coronavirus loses its potency after two or three minutes, then many intensive practices and precautions are unnecessary, such as constant deep cleaning of buses and subways. Closing schools for 24 hours for sterilization after a local infection — as Gov. Andrew Cuomo has announced he would do — would also be unnecessary.
Asked how the Department of Health had concluded that the virus dies quickly in the open air, the mayor was unpersuasive. “There are studies, there are academic studies, there are global and national organizations providing the information they have,” he said. “But you know, the old saying, God bless the child who’s got his own or her own … All information is valuable, but the information that we’re gleaning from our own direct experience is the most valuable to us.”
When pressed, Barbot acknowledged that the finding is hypothetical. “This is a novel virus that we’re still learning a lot about,” she said. Since the virus’ surface-contamination properties remain in dispute, the city would have been better off not presenting its own findings as fact. That would make its broader instructions less contradictory.
More troubling is the insistence that New York’s hospital system is fully capable of handling a widespread outbreak, which in extreme cases can cause total respiratory failure and necessitate intubation. De Blasio and Dr. Mitchell Katz, the head of NYC Health + Hospitals, the largest public-health network in the country, have said repeatedly that the hospital system has “1,200 beds that can be brought online immediately,” as a reserve stock.
SEE ALSO
Schumer says New York will receive $750M a month from coronavirus bill
As a public-health emergency, coronavirus is a logistical crisis about capacity. Most people who get infected, perhaps 80 percent, are asymptomatic or suffer only lightly. Of the remainder, a fraction become seriously ill and require the use of a ventilator.
The disease appears to be spreading exponentially, with the total number of new cases outside China increasing by a factor of 10 every 14 to 16 days. Assuming this trend holds, then the 20 or so cases we see in Gotham now could reach 2,000 by mid-April, 200,000 by mid-May and even 2 million by June.[BBM]
New York City’s entire hospital system has about 26,000 beds. If 10 percent of the city’s population becomes infected, and only 5 percent of those 850,000 people become seriously ill, that would still require 42,500 hospital beds — and nursing staff to tend to the patients, along with ventilators and other equipment.[BBM]
Katz offered an optimistic take on that prospect: “Our hospitals have tents that would allow us to turn a parking lot into an intensive-care unit.” And he reiterated the relatively small share of patients who will require intensive care.
It’s probably true that, even if 2 million New Yorkers are infected by June, and only 5 percent — 100,000 — need to be intubated, that it wouldn’t happen all at once. Still, the image of intensive-care parking lots is less than encouraging for anxious New Yorkers.[BBM]
https://nypost.com/2020/03/12/nyc-g...as-ready-for-coronavirus-as-de-blasio-claims/
Quotes from Article:
Mayor Bill de Blasio and his public-health team have been holding regular briefings on the coronavirus crisis in New York City, detailing the extent of its transmission, updating the public on the progression of the disease in infected persons and offering guidelines for avoiding infection.
All good work, but there are signs that the city is less prepared for a mass outbreak than officials suggest. De Blasio and Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbot have stressed that though the coronavirus is certainly contagious, the mechanics of transmission are relatively limited.
“The virus can only transmit when bodily fluid, such as through a sneeze, cough or spit, is transferred from a person who has the virus, directly into another person,” de Blasio stated in a news release. “Disease detectives have determined that the virus does not survive for more than two or three minutes in open air.”
The claim that coronavirus dies quickly upon exposure to the atmosphere is striking; it also seems to contradict information elsewhere. The World Health Organization says that the novel coronavirus appears to behave similarly to related viruses and “may persist on surfaces for a few hours or up to several days.” A recent article in the Journal of Hospital Infection suggests that, depending on the surface material, it can remain infectious for up to nine days.
If coronavirus loses its potency after two or three minutes, then many intensive practices and precautions are unnecessary, such as constant deep cleaning of buses and subways. Closing schools for 24 hours for sterilization after a local infection — as Gov. Andrew Cuomo has announced he would do — would also be unnecessary.
Asked how the Department of Health had concluded that the virus dies quickly in the open air, the mayor was unpersuasive. “There are studies, there are academic studies, there are global and national organizations providing the information they have,” he said. “But you know, the old saying, God bless the child who’s got his own or her own … All information is valuable, but the information that we’re gleaning from our own direct experience is the most valuable to us.”
When pressed, Barbot acknowledged that the finding is hypothetical. “This is a novel virus that we’re still learning a lot about,” she said. Since the virus’ surface-contamination properties remain in dispute, the city would have been better off not presenting its own findings as fact. That would make its broader instructions less contradictory.
More troubling is the insistence that New York’s hospital system is fully capable of handling a widespread outbreak, which in extreme cases can cause total respiratory failure and necessitate intubation. De Blasio and Dr. Mitchell Katz, the head of NYC Health + Hospitals, the largest public-health network in the country, have said repeatedly that the hospital system has “1,200 beds that can be brought online immediately,” as a reserve stock.
SEE ALSO
Schumer says New York will receive $750M a month from coronavirus bill
As a public-health emergency, coronavirus is a logistical crisis about capacity. Most people who get infected, perhaps 80 percent, are asymptomatic or suffer only lightly. Of the remainder, a fraction become seriously ill and require the use of a ventilator.
The disease appears to be spreading exponentially, with the total number of new cases outside China increasing by a factor of 10 every 14 to 16 days. Assuming this trend holds, then the 20 or so cases we see in Gotham now could reach 2,000 by mid-April, 200,000 by mid-May and even 2 million by June.[BBM]
New York City’s entire hospital system has about 26,000 beds. If 10 percent of the city’s population becomes infected, and only 5 percent of those 850,000 people become seriously ill, that would still require 42,500 hospital beds — and nursing staff to tend to the patients, along with ventilators and other equipment.[BBM]
Katz offered an optimistic take on that prospect: “Our hospitals have tents that would allow us to turn a parking lot into an intensive-care unit.” And he reiterated the relatively small share of patients who will require intensive care.
It’s probably true that, even if 2 million New Yorkers are infected by June, and only 5 percent — 100,000 — need to be intubated, that it wouldn’t happen all at once. Still, the image of intensive-care parking lots is less than encouraging for anxious New Yorkers.[BBM]
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I think this is the only way to think. We stocked up and we’re planning to stay home for the foreseeable future. We arranged business mail pickup at our home. Once we understand what exactly is happening I’ll see if there’s anyway we can volunteer (maybe to deliver meals to older folks) but for right now I think the best thing we can do is get out of the way and just stay home.
I understand exactly what you're saying.
I just saw my doctor and he sure had a different attitude, I was surprised.
First, he said I could go off my blood thinner. The cause of my clots was isolated bad travel events, no underlying condition. He said after 6 mos. of blood thiner clots are absorbed. He doesn't consider that a risk, and doesn't consider our high BP a risk.
The only thing he was a bit concerned about was DH's asthma. But he said as long as he takes his inhalers along, ok. He also doesn't consider us elderly, to him elderly is over 70. He does not consider me to be an unhealthy risk.
He said the virus is coming, lots of people are going to get it. We're going to get it in our state (even though he said it's extremely difficult to get tested for it here.) He seems to be in the "like getting the cold or the flu" school. He said if we want to go see our grandbaby, go; just don't go out and about much while we're there.
To be clear, that's what he said, not what I'm saying. Not saying I agree.
I just saw my doctor and he sure had a different attitude, I was surprised.
First, he said I could go off my blood thinner. The cause of my clots was isolated bad travel events, no underlying condition. He said after 6 mos. of blood thiner clots are absorbed. He doesn't consider that a risk, and doesn't consider our high BP a risk.
The only thing he was a bit concerned about was DH's asthma. But he said as long as he takes his inhalers along, ok. He also doesn't consider us elderly, to him elderly is over 70. He does not consider me to be an unhealthy risk.
He said the virus is coming, lots of people are going to get it. We're going to get it in our state (even though he said it's extremely difficult to get tested for it here.) He seems to be in the "like getting the cold or the flu" school. He said if we want to go see our grandbaby, go; just don't go out and about much while we're there.
To be clear, that's what he said, not what I'm saying. Not saying I agree.
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Disney Paris and Disney Cruise lines shutting down:
Orlando's Disney World, Disneyland Paris and Disney Cruise lines will shut down temporarily in the wake of growing concerns over the global coronavirus pandemic.
Coronavirus cancellations: Disney World, Universal Orlando shut down
Orlando's Disney World, Disneyland Paris and Disney Cruise lines will shut down temporarily in the wake of growing concerns over the global coronavirus pandemic.
Coronavirus cancellations: Disney World, Universal Orlando shut down
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I didn't say I didn't care about my health. I said I wasn't worried about getting it, in that I often don't worry about things a lot of others worry about. I could be wrong of course.
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Credit where credit is due - good on this team and player
NBA's Cleveland Cavaliers to compensate all stadium employees regular wages
From CNN's Homero DeLaFuente
The NBA’s Cleveland Cavaliers announced today that they plan to compensate all Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse employees, hourly and event staff team members, as if every game and every event is still taking place.
The announcement comes after the team's Kevin Love announced a $100,000 donation to the arena’s staff.
NBA's Cleveland Cavaliers to compensate all stadium employees regular wages
From CNN's Homero DeLaFuente
The NBA’s Cleveland Cavaliers announced today that they plan to compensate all Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse employees, hourly and event staff team members, as if every game and every event is still taking place.
The announcement comes after the team's Kevin Love announced a $100,000 donation to the arena’s staff.
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https://nypost.com/2020/03/12/schumer-says-new-york-will-receive-750m-a-month-from-coronavirus-bill/
Schumer says New York will receive $750M a month from coronavirus bill
Where is this money coming from ? And are there guidelines for how this money can be spent ? Is the government going to fund programs to keep the workers laid off from their jobs from losing their homes and help them feed their families ?
Schumer says New York will receive $750M a month from coronavirus bill
Where is this money coming from ? And are there guidelines for how this money can be spent ? Is the government going to fund programs to keep the workers laid off from their jobs from losing their homes and help them feed their families ?
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If you were my parents I’d be begging you to stay home and not visit. The CDC said people over 60, those with asthma, and those on blood thinners are all at higher risk of severe symptoms if they catch the virus. I would take advantage of the free rebooking most places are offering and plan a trip for the Fall. I am begging my own parents to stay home as they live in NYC. Just based on how much contact everyone has with each other in NYC I think the #s are going to end up being really awful.
Here’s the most recent CDC release even though it’s specific to CA it lists the known risk factors:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/downloads/Santa-Clara_Community_Mitigation.pdf
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First positive Alaska coronavirus case identified
The person was “a foreign national individual who was transiting through” the Anchorage international airport.
“This is an isolated case” that officials believe they can contain.
The person had traveled to Alaska in the past 48 hours. The person had not been interacting extensively in the community.
The person was “a foreign national individual who was transiting through” the Anchorage international airport.
“This is an isolated case” that officials believe they can contain.
The person had traveled to Alaska in the past 48 hours. The person had not been interacting extensively in the community.
This is true but I can tell you, we don't have a bunch of people dying around here. So if their estimate is accurate we must be pretty tough.
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Western University in London, ON. cancelling classes and moving to online format:
COVID-19 Information for the Campus Community - Western University
COVID-19 Information for the Campus Community - Western University
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Just FYI - after spending several days in a hospital setting and talking to numerous doctors (cardiovascular/neurological/pulmonary)
I have made the decision that I will not be visiting friends or other family members other than immediate family. I do not want to risk being a carrier or potentially exposing my loved ones to an unknown, extremely contagious potentially fatal disease for which there is no cure or vaccine.
JMO
I have made the decision that I will not be visiting friends or other family members other than immediate family. I do not want to risk being a carrier or potentially exposing my loved ones to an unknown, extremely contagious potentially fatal disease for which there is no cure or vaccine.
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Hogan is really on top of things. Cool, calm, collected and honest. Shutting down public schools for 2 weeks starting Monday.
Man what a depressing time to come. So sad.
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