Coronavirus - COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #23

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  • #1,041
It is infuriating, but it’s inevitable really. I mean I know these GenZ kids love their grandparents and don’t want any old people to die. BUT when you’re not able to have prom, go to sports events, have your college/high school graduation, forced to move out of your dorm full of friends and back in w/your parents all because of pretty much a mild cold for you and all your friends? Of course they’re going to be bitter. I’m not condoning it, but we do have to remember that this is really affecting young people as well.

They’re mostly not getting sick and dying, but their lives have been turned upside down. My daughter knows a senior at Harvard who was getting ready to head out to a track meet last week—they had never made it this far—when they were told Harvard had pulled out of it & to go home. Everything she had worked for over. Done.

I’m heartbroken for my daughter who was thriving at college. Everything she worked for to get there—just gone. Her new friends in other states and no one knows if and when they’ll be able to go on living.
This is terrible for everyone but we can’t forget the young people affected.
I don't think it should every be considered "inevitable". This would a great time for parents to explain the importance of kindness and acceptance to their children (even the young adult ones). Because ageism is no different than any other form of prejudice. JMO
 
  • #1,042
As we prepare our pantries and personal hygiene supplies, please prepare for your mental health too, my dear WS friends.

Get outside if you can, even if it's just sitting on your front step or in your yard. Walk o the end of the driveway or around the block if you're nervous about venturing further than that. If you have a park nearby, go. The outdoors can refresh your spirits.

Spend time doing something you enjoy - cooking, reading, puzzles....whatever! I know all of us here love our WS threads, but take some breaks. Netflix, youtube, social media, etc are great for at-home entertainment, but also think about changing the pace of what you do as this situation goes on.

We're likely in this for the long haul, so prepare.

Mental health is just as important as TP and it's worth thinking about and planning for.

(I am not a professional. Just my opinion only. I care about our WS community.)

jmo

My workplace (Altadena Library) added mental health tips to the virus info page at my suggestion.
 
  • #1,043
Why not try some vegetarian alternatives, for example dried soya mince. It doesn't take much space when dry, and have a good shelf life. There are lots of recipes on the web for ideas what to do with it.

Such a good idea - I always have a big bag of this in the cupboard. It’s so versatile and lasts ages.
 
  • #1,044
Got lucky used to mean something else and not buying cottonelle wipes at Walmart.
LOL.

Yeah, social distancing isn’t going to help anyone’s “luck” at all, either.
 
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^^^^^ This........Get outdoors...... It feels good.....moo
I just went and swept out my garage...just the fresh air from doing that was a mood booster! I've recruited my 14 yr old son to help me wash the car tomorrow. One thing about Florida is that we have beautiful weather right now. We're making sure the bike tires are inflated so we can do some bike riding as well and just got the pool water tested to make sure it's good to go also (the water is still a bit cold, but good to have it ready anyway). Fresh air and sunshine are nature's medicine! :) moo
 
  • #1,047
It is infuriating, but it’s inevitable really. I mean I know these GenZ kids love their grandparents and don’t want any old people to die. BUT when you’re not able to have prom, go to sports events, have your college/high school graduation, forced to move out of your dorm full of friends and back in w/your parents all because of pretty much a mild cold for you and all your friends? Of course they’re going to be bitter. I’m not condoning it, but we do have to remember that this is really affecting young people as well.

They’re mostly not getting sick and dying, but their lives have been turned upside down. My daughter knows a senior at Harvard who was getting ready to head out to a track meet last week—they had never made it this far—when they were told Harvard had pulled out of it & to go home. Everything she had worked for over. Done.

I’m heartbroken for my daughter who was thriving at college. Everything she worked for to get there—just gone. Her new friends in other states and no one knows if and when they’ll be able to go on living.
This is terrible for everyone but we can’t forget the young people affected.

[bbm]

what do you mean everything is gone?
 
  • #1,048
unreal! I wonder if they'll release more details
Well imo, this is not an isolated incident. There will be many more with the “you can’t make me” attitude, not just here, but in every state.
A guy friend has a dog that can only eat chicken. So my friend just stopped at a well known chain sports bar/grill, to get two chick breasts to go. My friend observed three men leave the restroom without washing their hands, all three then returning to the bar area, enjoying drinks and snacks. Also a group of younger (college age) men (boys???) were coughing at each other making light of getting time off work. I just called the manager to report the coughing, got this from the very young MOD “uhm...yeah, thanks for call in’, let me check. Have a nice day.” I’ll send an email to corporate. Not that they can do ugh about this incident but they can address the behavior with the bartender on duty.
Poor dog...,.
 
  • #1,049
I KNOW HOW NOAH FELT....

NEW YORK CITY


Walking around #NYC today I am struck by the normalcy. Clearly, #COVID19 concern hasn't hit Gotham. I have seen 4 mask-wearers in 5 hours, and plenty of people jostling in crowds, including Euro-tourists.
WAKE UP, NEW YORK
Laurie Garrett on Twitter

STAY HOME, SAVE LIVES
 
  • #1,050
Hubby went to pick up groceries today. They were out of toilet paper and ibuprofen. He stopped at Dollar General on the way home and found those items there and when he went to pay for it, he asked if they had hand sanitizer. The cashier pulled a bottle from under the counter and sold it to him. So if you need it, ask at the register. They may have it, but are just limiting how much you can buy and only selling to those who ask.
 
  • #1,051
FYI in the KY update I previously linked, appx 50% of KY cases require hospitalization. Not good odds, huh?
 
  • #1,052
Over half of the coronavirus patients in intensive care in the Netherlands are under 50 years old

h/t @Momo_x5x
Steve Lookner on Twitter
 
  • #1,053
Too early to tell. The population density is significantly different between the two....I would lean toward Fulton as a huge issue because of the homeless population.
 
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Maybe we can help by making a shopping list of more practical items:

whole wheat flour
oil
frozen real juice concentrate
dried skim milk powder
dried beans and lentils
laundry detergent
canned or frozen veggies
veggie seeds
waxed gouda cheese
salt
popcorn
dish soap
tooth paste

.. what else?
pasta
yeast
baking powder
cornmeal
canned tomatoes
spices
 
  • #1,056
So here in Michigan schools are closed until April.

All Michigan K-12 schools to close for 3 weeks due to coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak

Most events have been canceled near me as well as libraries closed, museums, rec center, municipal golf courses, etc....

Canton Public Library
You are being redirected...
COVID-19 Updates | Canton Township, MI - Official Website

All closed until April 5th. Tell me this...what do you guys think is going to happen on April 5th? IMHO, I feel we will be at the peak of this illness. What made April 5th this magic date?

Also, even if things are on the downside and things start opening, my elderly parents and my high risk husband will still need to isolate. Probably more than ever! So for me, there is no possible way April 5th means anything.

2 or 3 weeks of food? We will need 2-3 months of food to safely isolate. At least.
Help me here. A panic attack is setting in.
Speaking from a library perspective--
If libraries close until April 5th, most school spring breaks are over. If people pay no attention to isolating or self quarantine, they will bring their children to the library and hang out. This increases the risk for staff and elderly patrons to be exposed.
All items returned will need to be disinfected as well.
All items become biohazards because we don't know where they come from in terms of their contact.
We are petrified of infecting the public. We are petrified of becoming infected ourselves.

Expect longer than the magic date of reopening.
 
  • #1,057
@Henry2326 and everyone, Thank You for all the informative posts.

I am way behind on thread, but I have been reading a lot of concern about the lack of masks for the public. Maybe we just have to get creative like the Asians.... Plastic is impermeable - but you need to be able to breathe. Before all this, I saw surgeons using this type of shield without an additional mask for tasks like stitches, lancing abscesses, etc.

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Something like this is protective for your face, perhaps attach some gingham, a bandana around the bottom. For self-protection purposes, just clean it (for surgery, they are disposable). You probably cannot buy one, but can you make one?

I am eyeballing those clear plastic 2-liter bottles here... box cutter... if you do this, the plastic is SHARP, be careful and tape those cut edges. (just an idea)

Guess what this is -

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Those are veterinary Elizabethan collars for pets so they dont lick or scratch following surgery, etc. Like this:

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You probably can buy one at Petco. But what if a human put that on their head with an attached drape gingham or some material around the bottom? The correct size would rest on head and shoulders. I am ;) two of those I already have in my house right now...

What about Halloween masks, plastic party masks? Not fully protective, but something to start with to make a good enough mask.

Avoiding a ventilator makes a lot of things not seem so paranoid or silly.
 
  • #1,058
I don't think it should every be considered "inevitable". This would a great time for parents to explain the importance of kindness and acceptance to their children (even the young adult ones). Because ageism is no different than any other form of prejudice. JMO
I second that.
 
  • #1,059
What the hell is going to happen, I ask myself?
After surfing around reading comments pertaining to KY, I am seeing 75% comments about people with past due utility bills-bills due way before covid 19s arrival now thinking they won’t have to pay, or “hoping” to get covid 19 to get a vacay & bills paid, or looking for places for their kids to hang because mom is afraid she’ll go crazy, etc., etc. wth?
 
  • #1,060
5k worldwide, while flu deaths in the us from October to March 7 are 22k to 55k in the US alone.

This is not believable at the moment imo - how does one report a ballpark flu death of 22K - 55K, a differential of 33K? Which is it? What is the source? Or is it an opinion?

Why is 5K for COVID-19 fixed at 5K? Could it be 5K - 25K? Could some of the 33K maybe, sorta deaths for flu be transferred to COVID-19?

Very baffling numbers unless a test can attribute an exact COD through a proper test.

Is the source for the above not reliable enough for WS?

JMO.
 
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