Coronavirus - COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #24

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  • #941
Last night....3/14/20....glad the odds are 1 in 4600 now rather than June at 1 to 2 to get it.....

This is the scene at O’Hare airport
. The traveler who took the photo said it’s a 6-hour wait for bags then on to customs for 2-4 more of waiting in shoulder-to-shoulder crowds. Police are handing out water and disinfectant wipes. @fly2ohare #ord #coronavirus #COVID19 Brooke Geiger McDonald on Twitter
Brooke Geiger McDonald on Twitter

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Sounds like another petri dish and poor planning by authorities. I hope they all stay healthy. :(
 
  • #942
But possibly quarantine all the old folks in their homes for four months ????............o_O.........moo
Because China shutdown was quicker than Europe or US, I'm wondering if their premise about the 20 to 50 group will not hold water and this group is hammered in a new environment.
 
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  • #944
New York (Home Sweet Home)

"New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo has deployed the National Guard and created a one-mile containment zone around the town of New Rochelle, just north of New York City, where at least 158 cases of COVID-19 have been reported. And on Friday, the state launched its first drive-thru mobile testing facility in the region"-NPR report.

As of last night: 613 confirmed cases, statewide. 269 of these cases are in the city. 2 deaths.

17 of our 62 counties are reporting confirmed cases.
(Information from New York State DOH).

Two assembly people have tested positive. Our capitol building is closed to visitors, in Albany.

We are apparently the state with the most cases at this point in time as reported in local media.
 
  • #945
Reasons for my tweeting about #covid19.
"Be fast. Have no regrets. You must be the first mover. The virus will always get you if you don't move quickly. And you need to be prepared".
"IF you need to be right before you move. You will never win."

Dr. Faris Durmo MD., BSc. on Twitter

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  • #946
Wow. That picture is shocking. And frightening.

Remember the Spanish Flu and the Philadephia Parade outbreak? Threw gasoline on a fire!

"Few cities were struck harder than Philadelphia where Public Health Director Wilmer Krusen ignored pleas from doctors and refused to cancel a parade to promote the sale of government war bonds that was attended by 200,000 people. “Three days later every bed in the city’s hospitals was filled,” says Kenneth C. Davis, author of “More Deadly Than War: The Hidden History of the Spanish Flu and the First World War.” “Philadelphia was almost on the verge of a total collapse as a functioning city.”

Over 11,000 Philadelphia residents died in October 1918, including 759 on the worst day of the outbreak. Drivers of open carts kept a near-constant vigil circling streets while hollering, “Bring out your dead!” They then deposited the collected corpses in mass graves excavated by steam shovels."

https://www.history.com/news/spanish-flu-second-wave-resurgence
https://www.history.com/news/spanish-flu-deaths-october-1918
 
  • #947
This is MOO and not in response to any particular post.

My H and I went out for a walk during the day yesterday and visited a few local bars that were holding St. Patrick's day events. We chose the emptiest bars, did not sit next to anyone, drank draft beer from plastic cups, which were not reused, spoke with the bartenders and a few patrons from a distance and washed our hands frequently. For some that would seem irresponsible or crazy, but we felt that we conducted ourselves responsibly and in keeping with current expert guidance.

I have a hair appointment this Tuesday and the salon just called to confirm it and to share that they are taking precautions to help ensure the health of their patrons and staff. I am going to keep the appointment and feel that the steps the salon and I are taking are responsible and in keeping with curent expert guidance.

I recognize things could change and greater precautions may become necessary, but for now I am not cutting off all social contact.

Wishing everyone good health and a quick end to the pandemic.

A very sensible attitude. I went out for a pub lunch yesterday (for a birthday) and was pleased to see it was as thriving as ever. I may minimise / cherry pick a few events to miss but other than that life must go on for those that are healthy and able.

PS I can't recall who mentioned businesses doing gift vouchers, but after a heartfelt plea from a local cake shop on FB I have made that suggestion and they were very grateful for it. Lots of support from customers for the idea too, I hope it helps them get through these next few weeks.
 
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  • #948
I got my hair cut this week: it is a small salon and the lady that cuts my hair owns it- she has a sign on the door that if someone is sick don't bother to come in: she says if they dare cough or sneeze she will throw them out.

I've been putting off my hair appointment since right before our cruise in late January. My hair is long enough to pull back with a jaw clip, so I don't have to shampoo and curl daily. I can probably wait another week or two, but by the end of the month, I will definitely need a trim. I finally bit the bullet and got a much-needed manicure/pedicure last week.

Coronavirus: Six feet of social distance? For hairdressers, that may not be possible.

"People still want to look their best," one New Jersey hair stylist said. And "we're in an industry where we can't work from home."
 
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  • #949
I had no idea that the second and third waves for the spanish flu were greater than the first wave. egads.....
It's all on the PBS American Experience Influenza 1918. I wish every school showed this in science or history class. It's primarily important because people can learn so much from the experiences of the survivors as well as the history of the virus itself which is explained throughout. It was mandatory for us in microbiology but why not everyone and not just people going into college STEM programs.
 
  • #950
CHICAGO

In contact with @GovPritzker about arriving passenger delays at @fly2ohare of up to eight hours waiting for luggage, immigration, customs, & possible medical screening. Appears source of delays all federal and Admin was unprepared after Presidential ban on travel from Europe.

Mixed reports from travelers today. Some facing unheard of delays on arrival waiting for health questions, baggage, and government clearance. Others walk through without even a question. Administration clearly operating without consistent and clear guidelines.

I'm calling for additional federal resources to be immediately allocated to @fly2ohare and the other dozen airports designated to receive passengers from Europe in order to reduce wait times and help avoid having so many people in close proximity to each other.

Senator Dick Durbin on Twitter

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  • #951
True, people really need to watch the PBS American Experience Influenza 1918. There are many similarities and differences in our experience. But the importance of social distancing was duly noted by researchers when studying for current guidelines. The people of 1918 didn't stand a chance because the pathogen was a mysterious entity at that time. But now, we know better. Let's not let history repeat. Thanks.
Influenza 1918 | Season 10 Episode 5 | American Experience
The 1918 pandemic was devastating. When I am running census, etc. for genealogy, the amount of death during that time is so tragic. Entire families were destroyed. :(
 
  • #952
So one of the prep items I bought was a box of dye. I never ever do my hair at home but thought it might be coming. So I just informed Mr. Pirate that he was going to do my roots and give me a cut. He looked at me with equal parts sympathy and horror...! LOL
Selfies posted here afterwards, please ?...Thank you in advance.....moo
 
  • #953
Honestly, regarding community spread- It Is Too Late To Do Anyhthing To Stop This Virus Now.
There are thousands of infected people in every country going undetected because they are merely experiencing and displaying man like flu symptoms. Scientists in the UK reckon, at the very least, 1 infected person can infect 3 others.. 3 go off and 9 more are infected, 9 rapidly infecting 27 more and so on and so forth. Italy have seen 1,500 people die from coronavirus in just 22 days. And despite other countries best efforts, the sad truth is, we are just weeks away from being in the same phase as Italy. Because they are where they are because of community spread and the rest of the world should have locked down at that point. Instead, for whatever reasons, they all chose to wait until their own countries started displaying the same symptoms!! I think though, that America have the shortest time span between the 1st initial death and the activation of lockdown. Us lot in the UK on the other hand, have a Prime Minister who is blatantly leading us to deaths door!! God help us X
 
  • #954
Spanish police use megaphones to tell people to stay indoors or face £25,000 fines as coronavirus deaths DOUBLE to 288 overnight - and British tourists scramble to leave the country

Spanish police use megaphones to tell people to stay indoors or face £25,000 fines | Daily Mail Online

Britons in Benidorm laughed off government-imposed bar curfew in Spain by guzzling down beer by the beach and stocking up trolleys with alcohol last night.

One smiling tourist risked the wrath of expats and locals by holding up a pack of Corona lager as his shirtless pals downed drinks beside him.

Their show of defiance followed pleas by Spanish politicians to stay indoors yesterday ahead of a national ban due to come into force allowing people to leave their homes or hotels only under certain 'emergency' conditions.

I expect they will return to Britain and refuse to self isolate and visit pubs and clubs here.
 
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Sounds like another petri dish and poor planning by authorities. I hope they all stay healthy. :(
I hope so too, but I doubt it. We know they are coming from high risk areas (Europe is now high risk area) and yet they are all in close proximity to each other for a long period of time waiting to have their temperature taken. What are the chances no one had the virus and it won't spread in these conditions?
 
  • #957
Czech Prime Minister says nationwide quarantine likely Czech Prime Minister says nationwide quarantine likely Reuters on Twitter
Reuters on Twitter

French finance minister says no shortages of essential goods French finance minister says no shortages of essential goods Reuters on Twitter
Reuters on Twitter

Germany will ‘largely’ shut borders with France, Switzerland and Austria from Monday to stop spread of coronavirus Germany to 'largely' shut key borders on Monday
BBC News (World) on Twitter

Spain says deaths from the coronavirus have more than doubled in one day to 288. The country now has 7,753 infections, up from 5,700 on Saturday, with around half of them concentrated in the capital of Madrid, health officials say. The Latest: Fauci: US airport crush defeats anti-virus goals
The Associated Press on Twitter

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  • #958
I don't think things will go back to normal in a matter of weeks. And you are probably right about the concern of a defendants Sixth Amendment right to a speedy trial being violated.
I do wonder about the jurors though. I'm sure many of them don't want to be sitting shoulder to shoulder with strangers in a courtroom.

I was on a civil trial jury in October 2019. In Colorado, that means six jurors and one alternate. The second day of the trial one of the jurors dragged himself in with a horrid respiratory illness. The rest of the jurors asked the judge that he be excused out of sympathy and a desire not to get ill in such close quarters. The judge excused him. Even so, we were doing our own disinfectant of the handles in the jury room. (We had bathrooms for both men and women that were off the jury room, along with a small kitchenette. It's the same courthouse where the pre-trial hearings for the People of Colorada vs Leticia Stauch are occurring.)
 
  • #959
SOUTH CAROLINA

JUST IN: Gov. Henry McMasters will be holding a press conference at 4 p.m. today for an update on the state's response to COVID-19.

ABC News 4 on Twitter

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  • #960
Remember the Spanish Flu and the Philadephia Parade outbreak? Threw gasoline on a fire!

"Few cities were struck harder than Philadelphia where Public Health Director Wilmer Krusen ignored pleas from doctors and refused to cancel a parade to promote the sale of government war bonds that was attended by 200,000 people. “Three days later every bed in the city’s hospitals was filled,” says Kenneth C. Davis, author of “More Deadly Than War: The Hidden History of the Spanish Flu and the First World War.” “Philadelphia was almost on the verge of a total collapse as a functioning city.”

Over 11,000 Philadelphia residents died in October 1918, including 759 on the worst day of the outbreak. Drivers of open carts kept a near-constant vigil circling streets while hollering, “Bring out your dead!” They then deposited the collected corpses in mass graves excavated by steam shovels."

https://www.history.com/news/spanish-flu-second-wave-resurgence
https://www.history.com/news/spanish-flu-deaths-october-1918
The Smithsonian Channel also has a good documentary in their "America's Hidden Stories" series about the 1918 Pandemic.
 
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