Coronavirus - COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #24

[Ray_of_hope]

It’s so scary right now. A lot of people have spring allergies with sneezing and an occasional cough. If I sneeze at work tomorrow after they refused to shut down, am I going to be a pariah? I actually hope I am so others will stay away from me.

LOL, we have the same problem. DH and I did a market run yesterday and he sneezed, twice. All heads in the area snapped to attention. We felt like lepers.
I also felt bad when a man glared at me for feeling grapes in a couple of different bags (the bags are all open) to see if they were ripe. So many things we normally do are suspect now.

 

[Tadpole12]

Last post before night shift checks out:

I can not tell you how quickly food depletes, now that I am aware and conscious of tightly rationing.

Ration. Ration. Ration.

I’ve learned this by not only practicing for about three weeks, but also by watching what went down in China in the early days.

Having to go get food is a risk imo. The more you can minimize this risk for you and everyone, the better imo. We don’t know how overrun delivery services may be down the road.

Are you in, have you been in self isolation for three weeks?

 

[Henry2326]

“One concern we have with cases such as U.K. and Switzerland isn’t just about the numbers. It is that these countries have abandoned any measure to contain or restrain the virus,” said Minister for National Development in Singapore Lawrence Wong. Singapore Says U.K. Is Not Trying to Contain the Coronavirus

Christian Althaus on Twitter

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[PayrollNerd]

8 of my inlaws - 4 over age 55 and 4 in their mid 20s, are traveling from Wisconsin to Naples, Fl. area this week for a 2 week vacation. 3 will be flying and the rest driving. One works in a hospital, 2 are teachers and 1 works for the USDA. Another BIL and his family going on their planned vaca to Texas because they already have the tickets and hotel rooms so why waste it.

My sil called last night to chat and she was surprised our state has not closed the public schools yet because Wisconsin closed the schools already. She told me the nursing home my mother in law is in had restricted all visitors before the Gov. declared a state emergency so they are very aware there is a national health emergency.

I just don't understand it. How can they not be concerned of all the people they will interact with before and after the trip ? How can they not be concerned about all the surfaces they will touch in multiple states ?

They are all intelligent, responsible and compassionate adults in every other aspect of their lives but this virus. How can they be so inconsiderate to others and so careless with their own health ? I just don't understand .

If they are in good health and courteous and cautious, really, Florida isn’t a bad place to be. It was 80 yesterday and the virus doesn’t like heat. Now, if all they do is sit in an air conditioned building, breathing recirculating air, then they may as well stay home. But if their plan is to roast on a beach under the hot sun, swim in salt water, etc. that’s not a horrible idea. The beaches are free and after all, what exactly do you think everyone is doing with their kids for 2-3 weeks? They’re at the state parks, hiking in the woods, tubing in the rivers, baking at the beach, boating, zipping around on their jet skis, and then napping in the afternoon. Many of the bars are open air, tiki type bars. They’re not closed up petri dishes. My point being, environment plays a huge role.

 

[Tbone144]

I went on Friday. And whether to go was something I thought about as well. I ultimately decided my interaction would be with one person, and while all it takes is having contact with one person with CV to be exposed, it’s about minimizing risk for me right now. I only interact with my hairdresser when I go- they do the washing, cut, and styling. And I’m not really near their face, and they wash their hands when they wash my hair.

I’m personally not at a point (yet) where I’m avoiding all one-on-one outside interaction with people I know. Not that people I know can’t have CV- but I’m basically just trying to keep the amount of individual friends I’m in contact with low, and avoid handshakes/hugs and being near their face.

I know my hairdresser and I feel like they are very conscientious, and would not come to work with any symptoms (yes, could still have it, but again about minimizing risk and them doing their part to stay healthy and take precautions). For example, when I got there they mentioned how red their hands were from washing them so much. And told me about their pandemic stash they’d been creating with emergency food and supplies... hey wait, maybe they’re on WS!

So- all in all my advice would be to assess your personal situation and decide if it makes you nervous. How many people do you come in contact with there? Do separate people wash, cut, and blow dry? How conscientious is your hairdresser/do you know them well, or are they the type of person who would show up to work no matter what? You need to do what makes you most comfortable. Don’t go if you are nervous.

It’s a hard call. I’m under 50 and have no health issues, so minimizing risk with my one-on-one interactions is where I’m at right now and I felt comfortable with my hairdresser . If I were higher risk and knew I’d be coming into contact with multiple people I probably wouldn't have gone. Or if my hairdresser wasn’t as conscientious.

I don’t think your question was selfish- it’s a good thing to ask about! And as you can see from my page-long answer, it’s something I thought about as well



MOO.

Excellent point. Think about the situation you are about to immerse yourself in. How many possible exposures has the person you are about to expose yourself to. We are in our mid-40’s with no complications other than being overweight. I know we aren’t immune. We also live 10 hours away from our nearest parents and grandparents and 20 hours from the furthest. However I’m keeping an eye on the old (90+) lady across the street so I know I’m not on an island. Entire street is keeping an eye on her so if one of us gets ill we can step out.
I considered going to the park today to walk the dogs. Very rarely do I see anyone on our hike, last week was exceptionally busy. Then I thought about the lady who scans the passes. She is taking money and passes from everyone who enters the park and I don’t know if she’s sanitizing in between. I’d hope so but I don’t know so we will walk at home.

 

[Henry2326]

LESS CONTACTS, LESS PROBABILITY....

Gregꙮr on Twitter

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[Tadpole12]

So it could have been on it's way round the world earlier than we think???? JMO

It was.

 

[Bravo]

It's my Brother In Law I worry for most who is in Michigan. He looks healthy as a horse but he really isn't. He is 72. Slim ,walks twice a day and does weights. He has a very cavalier attitude about all this. He has had 3 past heart attacks and quint by pass several years ago. Now he is diabetic.

 

[weepingangel]

Wow. That picture is shocking. And frightening.

frightening yes.
Shocking nope.
People aren’t going to “put their lives on hold” for this. (Stole that quote from the previous St Patrick’s day story

 

[CoverMeCagney]

The Trump administration has offered a German medical company “large sums of money” for exclusive access to a Covid-19 vaccine, German media have reported. <snip>. According to an anonymous source quoted in the newspaper, Trump was doing everything to secure a vaccine against the coronavirus for the US, “but for the US only”.

Where's the 'dislike' button?

It’s the global equivalent of buying allllll the TP and keeping it for yourself.

Good analogy. Yes, it is.

 

[Skigh]

Coronavirus: 35 deaths in UK - a rise of 14 in a day

 

[Henry2326]

HERE IT IS....HUNKER DOWN....

The biggest takeaway from Fauci’s TV appearances: He has advocated within the administration for a 14-day national shutdown. “As much as we possibly could. We should be overly aggressive and get criticized for overreacting.” Is the White House listening to his advice? He says:

Fauci, on whether the White House is listening to his advice: “In fairness, they listen and they generally go with what we say.” In this exchange, on NBC, he says Americans need to accept that they’re going to need to hunker down more than they currently are.

Alexander Panetta on Twitter

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[CeeCeeCat]

“One concern we have with cases such as U.K. and Switzerland isn’t just about the numbers. It is that these countries have abandoned any measure to contain or restrain the virus,” said Minister for National Development in Singapore Lawrence Wong. Singapore Says U.K. Is Not Trying to Contain the Coronavirus

Christian Althaus on Twitter

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Seriously. I am appalled. We (meaning our government) appear to be singing lalala I can’t hear yooooooouuuu, fingers stuck in ears and blind to those vulnerable people who won’t just get ill - they.will.die.

 

[Tadpole12]

Does anyone else have a spouse who thinks you are being too careful? My husband is repeatedly annoyed with me, and I'm frustrated with the risks he's taking and exposing us to.

No. On this occasion,
understanding expondential growth,
we both will gladly curb our social contacts, and limit excursions.

 

[x_files]

I am new here so I don't want to say the wrong thing. I live in Northern California and we have had 1 positive that has since recovered and 1 new one tonight that is self isolating. I just don't know what to believe. Is this a real thing or is this a media driven panic of the month?

Do you trust experts and/or medical scientists or WHO or the CDC? If so listen to them. Ignore the media but experts are saying it's not to be taken lightly.
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Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
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[Henry2326]

MORE...

On Meet The Press, the Republican Governor of Ohio & the Dem Governor of Illinois both say they’re looking at locking down bars and restaurants. “It’s something we’re seriously looking at,” Gov. Prizker says. “We need to go on lockdown.” Says healthy people don’t realize the risk.

Alexander Panetta on Twitter

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[FlossyMay]

My SIL is vacationing in Ireland right now. She posted an hour ago that they were eating in Dublin. She's a nurse and her bf is a retired fire chief. I don't know what her plans are to come home, but I hope they use their training to keep themselves safe when they return.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Posted from Italian physician China Air Bus from Shanghai just landed in Rome : 9 Physician experts , 1,000 ventilators , 100,000 masks , 20,000 protective gear , 50,000 test kits #humanity @jeremyfaust @Free2CareHC @KTamirisaMD @BoggildLab @arghavan_salles @ETSshow @JJcolemanMD Basia Jenkins,MD on Twitter
Basia Jenkins,MD on Twitter

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Grazie, China! Viva Italia!

 

[Elley Mae]

Sitting here(home) thinking.

Neighbor next door, 94 & wifey 86 have grand kids, one grand kid and mother got back last week from UK, guy across the street from them got back from Florida friday, 2 weeks vaca. Yes I am avoiding them amap. Hoping that both will be fine.

 

[escape2sc]

If they are in good health and courteous and cautious, really, Florida isn’t a bad place to be. It was 80 yesterday and the virus doesn’t like heat. Now, if all they do is sit in an air conditioned building, breathing recirculating air, then they may as well stay home. But if their plan is to roast on a beach under the hot sun, swim in salt water, etc. that’s not a horrible idea. The beaches are free and after all, what exactly do you think everyone is doing with their kids for 2-3 weeks? They’re at the state parks, hiking in the woods, tubing in the rivers, baking at the beach, boating, zipping around on their jet skis, and then napping in the afternoon. Many of the bars are open air, tiki type bars. They’re not closed up petri dishes. My point being, environment plays a huge role.

I am not so sure about this. When the list of countries reporting cases yesterday was posted, I checked the daily temperatures for that area and Kenya, Sudan and numerous others have had temps in the 80s.