Coronavirus - COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #25

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  • #301
It’s odd to me too. The numbers don’t match the mass hysteria and talk of forced quarantines and martial law. It’s a virus to take seriously and we all need to do our part to stop the spread, but this is sort of becoming unreal to me.
I hear you. I’ve struggled from the beginning to fully get my head around this too. But what it comes down to for me is looking at our fellow humans who have (and still are) suffering this virus before us. We learn much from them. I look at Wuhan, at South Korea, at Italy. It is hard to deny the information and images coming out of those afflicted cities and countries. America is not so special that we should expect anything different if we do not take action.

Every time I start to go back to “it’s just the flu” I’m reminded of what has happened overseas. There is undeniably something different about this virus. It is bringing countries to their knees because of rapidity of spread (over short time frame), and overload of medial capacity to care for the serious cases.



MOO.
 
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  • #302
I love West Virginia as well. My son attended and graduated from WVU and it was a beautiful place to visit.

The West Virginia governor said it is there, they just haven’t found it yet.
 
  • #303
It’s odd to me too. The numbers don’t match the mass hysteria and talk of forced quarantines and martial law. It’s a virus to take seriously and we all need to do our part to stop the spread, but this is sort of becoming unreal to me.
Here are the estimates of 3 different organizations in the past 2 months....
Staggering to our healthcare system....

Presentation: US hospitals preparing for millions of hospitalizations - Business Insider

CDC’s Worst-Case Coronavirus Model: 214 Million Infected, 1.7 Million Dead
 
  • #304
I think it’s a combination of ignorance and deep denial and anger. People are scared of the reality of this so they do things to deny that reality. Walking my dog certain neighbors were insisting I come close, cross the street and congregate with another neighbor. These are people in their 70’s. They were annoyed I wouldn’t. Happily my dog is an excuse as she is still training and doesn’t like strangers.
Proud of you....:)
 
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Every single at risk person in our neighborhood has groceries, tp, soap and support. In fact, every person in our neighborhood has groceries, tp, soap and support. It cost taxpayers nothing.

I had to take a break so I'm just now seeing your reply which part of it has left me confused.

I'm not sure what you mean about it not costing the taxpayers a dime. You were saying those at risk, and elderly must take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for themselves. I didnt see anything in your post that mentioned taxpayers picking up the tab nor did I mention it or even think of it in my previous reply.

Most of the elderly who live in their homes are self sustaining financially, and not costing the taxpayers a dime.

They weren't advising others to pay to protect the elderly, but just do common sense things that may make it easier for them if they cant get out or shouldn't at this time. And making sure they follow the hygiene guidelines set forth so that all around the elderly at risk are being protected along with protecting themselves.

My hubby, and I both fit the category of elderly, which is anyone over the age of 60 with this virus, and I have an underlying condition now that just developed out of the blue two weeks ago. We have a great family support system with 5 children, grandchildren, and many dear friends.

We are doing fine on our own. If we must go out we make sure to wear masks to protect us, and protect all others that may be around us.

We do not want to ever jeopardize the health of anyone including our family members. We know people the age of our children are also getting this virus, and tragically some of those who have died from it were not in the elderly age group, but younger.

So all of us are being respectful of each other, and honoring the social distancing as recommended along with the advice to have excellent hygiene inside, and out of our homes which we were already doing.

So far no one we know has the virus, but we know that can change instantly. Our area does have those who have the virus. In fact one is in ICU. Shes in her early 50s, but shes a cancer patient.

We are also providing needed products, and food to other elderly neighbors by leaving it by their door. Our next door neighbors are both very sickly, and at high risk so we have been doing everything we can to make sure they do not have to go out.

Thank God my hubby is a very healthy 74 year old. He runs the errands that must be done for us, and surrounding neighbors. Of course he takes all necessary precautions to be safe, and to ensure those around him are also safe.

Everyone at this time of crisis should be all in doing their part.

Its heartbreaking to know those in nursing homes have been the centers of some of the virus outbreaks. Imo, even at the end of their life they arent being cared for properly, but that was happening even before this even happened in many towns, and states.

I care about each, and every citizen in our great country no matter who they are.

I know if we can overcome this nightmare it will be because of the millions of good citizens who did everything in their power to do their part.

Jmhoo
 
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  • #307
Did anyone hear the suggestion Prez Trump get a weekly test? I think I heard a doctor talking about the number of tests some will need. Moo
Sounds reasonable, as the test result is only for the day one gets tested. Like Dr. Birx said yesterday, you can get a negative test result but nothing to keep you from getting the virus that night. Moo
Will some ultimately need daily or every other day testing?
 
  • #308
How would we know. I’m missing a couple who used to post regularly and have just stopped. @Steelslady for one. How to be sensitive and not intrude on privacy yet also show concern. .

@Medstudies has also been missing for quite some time.
 
  • #309
A post from a young person on FB, one of my son's besties.

For real people. We got this
You can play at home. You can workout at home. You can eat, drink and be merry. At. Home. Don’t be selfish - yes, you could get it and survive it but what about alllll the people who can’t. Don’t make our healthcare workers decide who lives and who dies.

Thank you! I have friends that believe I’m being ridiculous for social distancing myself. I have vowed to not go anywhere other than work (I have a very crucial job which supports health care workers).

When I get bored I just remind myself of my family members that are likely not able to fight this. We should all be thinking of the elderly and immunocompromised right now. We should all be distancing ourselves from crowds.
 
  • #310
White House briefing coming any minute!
 
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Another, a 53-year-old man in Nelson County, had been diagnosed but refused to self-isolate and continued to leave his home despite medical guidance. Beshear said the state had stepped in to forcibly quarantine him.

“It’s a step that I hope I never had to take, but we can’t allow one person who has this virus to refuse to protect their neighbors,” he said.
Kentucky forcibly quarantines COVID-19 patient who refused to self-isolate
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sounds like the authorities need to come up with a central facility to lock these miscreants
up and hold them til they test clear.
It's going to become a common problem everywhere.
 
  • #312
IMOO - There’s more to the story than meets the eye. Actions speak louder than words. Don’t focus on just the numbers.
exactly. the key for me was when Disney World announced they're closing down. That was historic. That clenched it for me that we have
a historic plague on our hands and no one can hide it any more.
 
  • #313
Per Fox News: Fed is lowering interest rate in the US.
 
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Hundreds of people are still piling up to the brim at O'Hare. Everyone trying to come home from Europe and other countries all at once before the travel ban starts. No extra CDC officials, no extra TSA. The federal government woefully unprepared and unplanned. The IL government officials are PISSED!!!

EDIT: Actually, make it *thousands* of people, my mistake! Holy moly, this is bad. :eek:
This is worse than bad
it is horrifying
many of these people will be vectors for the virus
we are at the whim of incompetent government officials that defy belief
 
  • #315
@escape2sc

Homeschooling relies on the dedication of parents. There are a lot of parents who both work full-time and can't homeschool. Usually it also relies on a lot of money to acquire curriculum/textbooks, materials, etc but thankfully a lot of software and websites are opening up for free during this time of crisis.

There also is no "system" in place, the homeschooling community (which I am part of, have been my whole life) has made sure of it.

In many states that I know of, there are state Department of Education exams that students take that are home schooled. I worked at a university with highly selective admissions and entrance requirements are the same for the many home schooled students admitted.
 
  • #316
Friend....let's not shoot the messenger....he is one of few that is telling the truth....
I agree he is only the messenger, but why target restaurants and pubs, or in fact any service industry? This is what makes me leary of his message? Why not shutdown all business, why just shut down certain business. Is he anti restaurants and pubs. Have there been reported cases of coronavirus in these places. I ventured our in my community today, after staying home for a few days. I can tell you, communities and their friendly businesses are helpful for the mental state. I can read this forum for only so long, and read the recommendations of so called leaders before I rebel. There is a life, to be lived responsibly, outside. Peace

MOO
 
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sounds like the authorities need to come up with a central facility to lock these miscreants
up and hold them til they test clear.
It's going to become a common problem everywhere.
It will, imo. Idk what his issue is but I do understand the confusion:
Really it’s just like a cold, support your community—have a drink or dinner, stock up on food, no don't stock up, no don’t eat out, yes go for a drink—don’t go in a crowded bar, everyone can’t “pack” in one place (per my Gov), go get enough food to hold you over, no stay home-avoid stores, churches must be closed, but for now bars can remain open, practice social distancing, wash your hands......
So yeah, I think a lot of people think this is an overblown common cold.
We have TOS to abide by, read comments at some big online news sites. Appalling! I’ve read at least 500 comments about wanting to get it to get a paid leave, give it others, go on vacay, get gov’t benefits & on & on. I found at least 25 posts from people 3-6 months delinquent on rent & electric that are glad for this as they anticipate a bailout.
I think this is going to turn into a big hot mess!
 
  • #319
exactly. the key for me was when Disney World announced they're closing down. That was historic. That clenched it for me that we have
a historic plague on our hands and no one can hide it any more.

Agree. It’s odd - the numbers alone don’t justify the actions. So, IMO, either the numbers are being suppressed worldwide, or there’s something we’re just missing....

But these huge corporations don’t shut down business on a whim!!

Actions speak louder than words - and the action is a global shutdown.
 
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